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SjoW and Dignitas part ways - Page 17

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fiveohfive
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 04:14:23
March 02 2012 04:11 GMT
#321
On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:
In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire.



sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team.


What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game.

Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.


There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;

Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain

In my opinion they are the top 3 ^

Followed by;

Jinro

I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,

P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....
Terran, nerfed since '10. One ability at a time!
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
March 02 2012 04:34 GMT
#322
Why Sjow why?
Good luck, wherever you end up. <3
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 05:02:04
March 02 2012 05:01 GMT
#323
On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:
In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire.



sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team.


What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game.

Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.


There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;

Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain

In my opinion they are the top 3 ^

Followed by;

Jinro

I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,

P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....


hmm...

My ranking would be like

Kas/Thorzain
Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok
SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro?

hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team.

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HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
March 02 2012 05:05 GMT
#324
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 02 2012 05:11 GMT
#325
On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.


Because all he does is train in korea and constantly make it 1 or 2 rounds away from qualifying for code A.


That and he's fucking jinro, he's just awesome
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
March 02 2012 05:17 GMT
#326

[image loading]

Poll: SeleCT's now the last one left from the Dignitas big 3. Will he leave

Yes, next 3 months. (23)
 
51%

Yes, but not anytime soon. (9)
 
20%

Yes, within the next month. (8)
 
18%

Never. (5)
 
11%

45 total votes

Your vote: SeleCT's now the last one left from the Dignitas big 3. Will he leave

(Vote): Yes, within the next month.
(Vote): Yes, next 3 months.
(Vote): Yes, but not anytime soon.
(Vote): Never.

how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
March 02 2012 05:32 GMT
#327
They are probably getting new players and couldn't afford sjow anymore, he is an excellent player and I hope he is picked up sonn. I foresee dignitas kiwikaki
http://twitter.com/howsc
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
March 02 2012 05:51 GMT
#328
On March 02 2012 14:01 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:
On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:
In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire.



sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team.


What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game.

Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.


There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;

Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain

In my opinion they are the top 3 ^

Followed by;

Jinro

I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,

P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....


hmm...

My ranking would be like

Kas/Thorzain
Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok
SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro?

hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team.



You forgot about Select, he's definately Tier 3 if not Tier 2.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
March 02 2012 05:55 GMT
#329
I don't get it why people think this is some bizarre thing, contracts end that's that. Hopefully SjoW will find a new team fast ^^
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 02 2012 06:02 GMT
#330
On March 02 2012 14:51 Mellon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 14:01 KalWarkov wrote:
On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:
On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:
In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire.



sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team.


What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game.

Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.


There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;

Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain

In my opinion they are the top 3 ^

Followed by;

Jinro

I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,

P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....


hmm...

My ranking would be like

Kas/Thorzain
Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok
SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro?

hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team.



You forgot about Select, he's definately Tier 3 if not Tier 2.



but definitely not from Europe
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 02 2012 06:24 GMT
#331
On March 02 2012 14:32 how wrote:
They are probably getting new players and couldn't afford sjow anymore, he is an excellent player and I hope he is picked up sonn. I foresee dignitas kiwikaki

kiwi isnt joining a team. he is going back to poker
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
March 02 2012 06:25 GMT
#332
Sad.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
ZeroWave
Profile Joined December 2011
Israel49 Posts
March 02 2012 06:46 GMT
#333
Further luck in the future to both the team and Sjow
Never give up, Never surrender.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
March 02 2012 06:58 GMT
#334
Shame about SjoW, I always liked dignitas, was so sweet with SjoW, Nani and Select. Just hope they dont fall by the wayside since they keep loosing players...
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#335
wow big news o.o
i wonder if hes gonna focus fire or ice
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
March 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#336
Don't forget that Sjow made it past the first round of code A in November, his TvT is as good as the best foreigners and I'm sure he'll find a team soon. Maybe Quantic to join Naniwa, although I don't know if he really wants to train in Korea.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
March 02 2012 07:26 GMT
#337
On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.


? Which progamers in Korea have done "anything". It's the most competitive scene in the world with the least amount of tournaments to post results in. Why do you think? Jinro is easily a top Euro terran but being in Korea means his "results" are going to be skimpy.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
March 02 2012 07:38 GMT
#338
On March 02 2012 06:24 AyaaLa wrote:
That is unexpected.

I wonder if there ever was a news about someone leaving a team, joining a team that wasn't unexpected.

In all honesty he should join TL. With Jinro slumping for the past 8 months or so and TLO switching to zerg it would be good to enlist a Terran player without such a problem. Plus it could be beneficial to Jinro to have someone to discuss his play with.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
March 02 2012 07:48 GMT
#339
On March 02 2012 16:26 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.


? Which progamers in Korea have done "anything". It's the most competitive scene in the world with the least amount of tournaments to post results in. Why do you think? Jinro is easily a top Euro terran but being in Korea means his "results" are going to be skimpy.

That's stupid. Look at his record:

Assembly Winter 2011: Lost to elfi, teaja, won with adelscott. Unimpressive.
IPL TAC: lost to Sase and artist
NASL S2: lost to HwangSin and IdrA
MLG Orlando: lost to SaSe and Polt.
...

or the other way around:

In international tournaments he won with:
sycknesS (MLG Orlando) Bo3
ChAnCe (MLG Providence) Bo3
Slivko (NASTL S1) Bo1
Adelscott (Assembly Winter 2012)

and that's all since Assembly Winter 2012. Definitely Jinro still is unable to figure out his game. Sad, as I would love him to do so.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 02 2012 07:48 GMT
#340
On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:
In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire.



sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team.


What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game.

Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.


There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;

Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain

In my opinion they are the top 3 ^

Followed by;

Jinro

I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,

P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....

Overall I agree but when Sjow is at his best he's at the very top level. I don't know if it's motivational reasons or whatever but he's a inconsisten which is why he falls into the latter category.
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