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On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire. sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team. What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game. Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games.
There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have;
Kas
Beastyqt
Thorzain
In my opinion they are the top 3 ^
Followed by;
Jinro
I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud,
P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....
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Why Sjow why?
Good luck, wherever you end up. <3
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On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire. sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team. What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game. Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games. There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have; Kas Beastyqt Thorzain In my opinion they are the top 3 ^ Followed by; Jinro I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud, P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....
hmm...
My ranking would be like
Kas/Thorzain
Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok
SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro?
hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team.
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Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.
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On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.
Because all he does is train in korea and constantly make it 1 or 2 rounds away from qualifying for code A.
That and he's fucking jinro, he's just awesome
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Poll: SeleCT's now the last one left from the Dignitas big 3. Will he leaveYes, next 3 months. (23) 51% Yes, but not anytime soon. (9) 20% Yes, within the next month. (8) 18% Never. (5) 11% 45 total votes Your vote: SeleCT's now the last one left from the Dignitas big 3. Will he leave (Vote): Yes, within the next month.
(Vote): Yes, next 3 months.
(Vote): Yes, but not anytime soon.
(Vote): Never.
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They are probably getting new players and couldn't afford sjow anymore, he is an excellent player and I hope he is picked up sonn. I foresee dignitas kiwikaki
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On March 02 2012 14:01 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire. sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team. What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game. Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games. There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have; Kas Beastyqt Thorzain In my opinion they are the top 3 ^ Followed by; Jinro I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud, P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game..... hmm... My ranking would be like Kas/Thorzain Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro? hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team.
You forgot about Select, he's definately Tier 3 if not Tier 2.
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I don't get it why people think this is some bizarre thing, contracts end that's that. Hopefully SjoW will find a new team fast ^^
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On March 02 2012 14:51 Mellon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 14:01 KalWarkov wrote:On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire. sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team. What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game. Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games. There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have; Kas Beastyqt Thorzain In my opinion they are the top 3 ^ Followed by; Jinro I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud, P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game..... hmm... My ranking would be like Kas/Thorzain Happy/Demuslim/BratOK/Strelok SjoW/Beasty/ClouD/Jinro? hard to say though tbh. SjoW is still a great player and will surely find a nice team. You forgot about Select, he's definately Tier 3 if not Tier 2.
but definitely not from Europe
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On March 02 2012 14:32 how wrote:
They are probably getting new players and couldn't afford sjow anymore, he is an excellent player and I hope he is picked up sonn. I foresee dignitas kiwikaki
kiwi isnt joining a team. he is going back to poker
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Further luck in the future to both the team and Sjow 
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Shame about SjoW, I always liked dignitas, was so sweet with SjoW, Nani and Select. Just hope they dont fall by the wayside since they keep loosing players...
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wow big news o.o
i wonder if hes gonna focus fire or ice
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Don't forget that Sjow made it past the first round of code A in November, his TvT is as good as the best foreigners and I'm sure he'll find a team soon. Maybe Quantic to join Naniwa, although I don't know if he really wants to train in Korea.
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On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long.
? Which progamers in Korea have done "anything". It's the most competitive scene in the world with the least amount of tournaments to post results in. Why do you think? Jinro is easily a top Euro terran but being in Korea means his "results" are going to be skimpy.
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On March 02 2012 06:24 AyaaLa wrote:
That is unexpected.
I wonder if there ever was a news about someone leaving a team, joining a team that wasn't unexpected.
In all honesty he should join TL. With Jinro slumping for the past 8 months or so and TLO switching to zerg it would be good to enlist a Terran player without such a problem. Plus it could be beneficial to Jinro to have someone to discuss his play with.
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On March 02 2012 16:26 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 14:05 HeroHenry wrote:
Why do people look at Jinro and rank him so highly when he haven't done anything at all in so long. ? Which progamers in Korea have done "anything". It's the most competitive scene in the world with the least amount of tournaments to post results in. Why do you think? Jinro is easily a top Euro terran but being in Korea means his "results" are going to be skimpy.
That's stupid. Look at his record:
Assembly Winter 2011: Lost to elfi, teaja, won with adelscott. Unimpressive.
IPL TAC: lost to Sase and artist
NASL S2: lost to HwangSin and IdrA
MLG Orlando: lost to SaSe and Polt.
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or the other way around:
In international tournaments he won with:
sycknesS (MLG Orlando) Bo3
ChAnCe (MLG Providence) Bo3
Slivko (NASTL S1) Bo1
Adelscott (Assembly Winter 2012)
and that's all since Assembly Winter 2012. Definitely Jinro still is unable to figure out his game. Sad, as I would love him to do so.
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On March 02 2012 13:11 fiveohfive wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 12:07 Wallstreet11 wrote:On March 02 2012 11:10 pseudocalm wrote:In case anyone gave a damn: If SjoW doesn't end up on Liquid I would expect Kas or ThorZaIN to be recruited when their contracts expire. sjow thinks he is worth more than he is. IMO he's not on the level of a kas or thorzain, they would be infinitely better pick ups for any team. What are you talking about? He is easily top 3 terran in Europe. Didn´t he 2-0 Kas just recently etc? There are very few terrans who are as smart as SjoW in game. Those who say he is overrated cannot have watched his recent games. There is no way he is top 3 Terran in Europe when we have; Kas Beastyqt Thorzain In my opinion they are the top 3 ^ Followed by; Jinro I think Sjow is more along the level of skill such as BratOK, Strelok, Satiini, Cloud, P.S - One game well you play well and take a win does not mean you are entirely better then your opponent. Reference the Demuslim vs Nestea match as an example. But I will give credibility where it's due, you are only good as your last game.....
Overall I agree but when Sjow is at his best he's at the very top level. I don't know if it's motivational reasons or whatever but he's a inconsisten which is why he falls into the latter category.
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