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SjoW and Dignitas part ways - Page 18

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Chromodoris
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 07:51:19
March 02 2012 07:50 GMT
#341
On March 02 2012 16:38 nimdil wrote:
I wonder if there ever was a news about someone leaving a team, joining a team that wasn't unexpected.

Uhh, I don't know, Nada, killer, sleep, hungun and check maybe?
♥ ThorZaIN.
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 07:53:48
March 02 2012 07:52 GMT
#342
On March 02 2012 08:32 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 08:13 Elem wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:12 sereniity wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:09 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 02 2012 08:03 sereniity wrote:
On March 02 2012 07:49 Kiichol wrote:
http://sc2earnings.com/

Sjow is ranked 19th Globally in earnings through Starcraft 2 competitions.
So anyone doubting his ability has a rude awakening coming.


Yeah and FruitDealer is 8th...

Your argument is invalid.


Sjow has won more than one tournament outside the beta, your argument is dogshit. He's actually won a ton of tournaments, as you'd know if you clicked Liquipedia.


Oh, and what is MY argument exactly? I was pointing out how bad his argument of "earned alot of money - must be good" was.

So, now please explain to me what my argument was now again?
If you earned that much money outside of winning the GSL you've won quite a number of tournaments. Usually this means you're pretty damn good.

Hardly. IPL4 will give 100k in prizes, Stephano got like 70 or 80k from IPL3 - MLG was giving 5k per event last season except for the final. Polt got 100k off GSL Super tournament. Prize winnings is a terrible metric for how good someone is.

For reference, sjow is ELO Rank: 51st in TLPD international.

What?
Stephano got 30k from IPL3. Thats not even close to 80k.
Sjow participated in a lot of event and i think his prize winnings can tell you something about his skill. (his whole winnings don't come from one event).
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 02 2012 07:53 GMT
#343
Well I never liked Sjow that much, but I hope he gets a new team.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8509 Posts
March 02 2012 07:54 GMT
#344
Sad to see to be honest, since he seems to be a nice guy. But his results have not been the best for quite some time now...
On the other hand, Dignitas should start hiring again, SeleCt is pretty good, Killer is a good Zerg, and Bling up and coming, but I am not sure that´s enough to compete with the likes of Mouz, Empire, EG, Liquid etc...
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
March 02 2012 08:01 GMT
#345
it's kinda wierd to think that probably a year ago, when i thought of Dignitas, it was the names Naniwa, SelecT and Sjow--
now SelecT is only one of those three guys still with the team =\
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ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
March 02 2012 08:29 GMT
#346
ye dignitas is dying out
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 02 2012 08:32 GMT
#347
Didn't even know what race he played till I checked, guess he isn't one of the more well known ones.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 02 2012 08:32 GMT
#348
On March 02 2012 17:29 ChriseC wrote:
ye dignitas is dying out

Hardly... they had 3 players at and advancing past groups at Assembly... Select, Bischu and Bling. Yeah they could use another big name, but they have a strong team still.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 08:51:21
March 02 2012 08:48 GMT
#349
On March 02 2012 17:32 Nekovivie wrote:
Didn't even know what race he played till I checked, guess he isn't one of the more well known ones.


He is one of the few foreigners that managed to win in code A.
He has had some pretty dominant wins, first and foremost his IEM-win. But that's a long time ago and he seems to have faded since then, only showing glimpses once in a while.

He was along with Jinro my first favorite player.
I guess I jinxed them both.

Dear curse: Hands off Thorzain!
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 02 2012 09:40 GMT
#350
Dignitas have most likely noticed that the goalposts have moved a lot in Sc2 since they picked up their core roster over a year ago and much like Fnatic are clearing out players who are in decline and replacing them with players on an upward trend.

Sjow is a solid Terran players but his results in the second half of 2011 weren't anything like as good as his results in early 2011 and 2010.

I think most people wouldn't rank Sjow as being in the top 20 foreign players right now so the chances of him posting major LAN results (like a top 4 IEM or top 8 MLG/DH/IPL) aren't so good with Koreans in attendance.

A lot of it also comes down to how much Sjow was asking for from Dignitas.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
March 02 2012 10:04 GMT
#351
=( GL finding a new home SjoW! Power to you!
Mada Mada Dane
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
March 02 2012 10:06 GMT
#352
On March 02 2012 18:40 Seraphone wrote:
Dignitas have most likely noticed that the goalposts have moved a lot in Sc2 since they picked up their core roster over a year ago and much like Fnatic are clearing out players who are in decline and replacing them with players on an upward trend.

Sjow is a solid Terran players but his results in the second half of 2011 weren't anything like as good as his results in early 2011 and 2010.

I think most people wouldn't rank Sjow as being in the top 20 foreign players right now so the chances of him posting major LAN results (like a top 4 IEM or top 8 MLG/DH/IPL) aren't so good with Koreans in attendance.


Guess you have missed MLG Raleigh.
TAAF
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland226 Posts
March 02 2012 10:27 GMT
#353
I am sure a good team will pick Sjow up. He is really good.
What I am more worried about is the Starcraft roster of Dignitas... I hope some new players join soon.
Crouching probe, hidden cannon
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
March 02 2012 10:34 GMT
#354
On March 02 2012 06:27 Arterial wrote:
Dignitas' SC lineup doesn't seem to be all that strong anymore, with only SelecT and Bling....It was good with Naniwa in it but yeah he's gone too.


Merz and Bischu, merz overall being pretty good aswell and Bischu is a beast in teamleagues it seems, having done all-kills in IPL TAC. Also killer is pretty good. Although, They have dream and tandongho, who I think could really be incredible in the future, those 2 seems somewhat inactive, but they have potential.
Hell, it's about time
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 02 2012 10:43 GMT
#355
When people talk about Sjow not having the best results lately, I think people need to remember that it applies to all foreigners. Once the Koreans entered the scene, only a few players have been able to keep up. Since Naniwa left Dignitas, Sjow has still had the best results out of everyone in the team, even if people may consider Select the better player overall. I have doubt in my mind that Dignitas would have wanted to keep Sjow in their roster.

It must have come down to them not being able to afford him, and other teams probably having better deals.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 02 2012 10:46 GMT
#356
he's still the only swede besides Jinro who got through the 1st Round of Code A
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 02 2012 10:51 GMT
#357
On March 02 2012 16:52 hrvoje07 wrote:
What?
Stephano got 30k from IPL3. Thats not even close to 80k.
Sjow participated in a lot of event and i think his prize winnings can tell you something about his skill. (his whole winnings don't come from one event).


Pretty much this. If you choose to just look solely at his earnings ranking and not the information that is RIGHT FUCKING THERE ON THE PAGE then your argument is pretty much horseshit. You can't just say "oh well that's all I was talking about!", it's like deliberate sodding ignorance. The guy who originally posted was making the assumption that people wouldn't be dumbasses and actually take into account ALL the information that was right there available, rather than just say "herpderp, fruitdealer is 8th, argument invalid".

People are more interested in being pedantic than having a sensible discussion it seems.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 02 2012 10:55 GMT
#358
he is very strong and a good add to any lineup out there
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
March 02 2012 10:56 GMT
#359
Gogo liquid Sjow! We need more terrans!
Ozira
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden150 Posts
March 02 2012 11:32 GMT
#360
I am not suprised really.. Was a long time ago he made some great results really. He did well in Code A but not much after that. It's sad though

Best of luck to SjoW!
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