EPTHow did you watch MLG? - Page 47
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On February 28 2012 03:50 An2quamaraN wrote: Its impossible to play multiplayer without legal copy. Probably thats what he meant. There are private servers and LAN options you can download illegally | ||
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bobobaerogawa
43 Posts
I just saw a thread on Reddit about an MLG Event, went to their website and clicked the stream. Just now realized it was (intended to be) PPV - I didn't use any workarounds specifically - it just worked. Watched it for 3 hours on Saturday ... I guess if I had payed 20$ to see it work just like that I would've bitten my own ass. Besided that - I would've probably watched a re-stream if it had not worked on it's own ... 20$ is alot of money  Yes I know this is wrong but I don't really care. I'm willing to pay e.g. 10$ for an album of my favorite band but I'm not willing to pay 20$ ... if you don't want your stuff pirated, use appropriate prices. 20$ for (effectively as a European) 5-10 hours of entertainment is just too much, same reason I don't go to the cinema anymore. And no I don't pirate movies - I wait 5 weeks and rent them for 2€/day instead of paying 7-13€ at the cinema ( and buy some popcorn for 1,50€ instead of 8€ at the cinema). | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 28 2012 03:56 Chenz wrote: I'll pay for MLG events (or rather, start paying again) the day that they start airing their finals one or two hours earlier. Isn't the amount of European viewers you would gain by doing that worth it, or is Europe such a small market? how early do you want them to start? They started at 10:30am local time after going pretty late the night before. You really want players starting early in the morning after playing late into the night? | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:04 jmbthirteen wrote: how early do you want them to start? They started at 10:30am local time after going pretty late the night before. You really want players starting early in the morning after playing late into the night? Don't show all games, start earlier on the Friday, start on Thursday or reduce downtime. It's not impossible, but I'm not saying it's feasible either. All I know is that it's quite hard to motivate yourself to spend $20 on an event and then being unable to watch the finals. Also, it might be possible to have the event go Thursday to Saturday, that would also make the events more EU friendly. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On February 28 2012 03:11 Doodsmack wrote: Sundance told us it was a success and as a result, two arenas will be held in the spring. I think that means it was a success. Can people please stop with this? You think Sundance is going to go on stream right before the Finals and say it was a complete failure or they didn't meet expectations? Fact is, a single Arena that also conflicted with Assembly doesn't really prove anything. They were always going to hold more Arena's no matter what because they need more data points to know if this is actually viable. The only way they weren't going to hold more Arena's is if they got a really small number of purchases and that wasn't going to be the case since there's easily 1k+ people that would blindly throw money at MLG anyways. You'll know if this is successful if you see it in 2013 and the price remains high(10$-15$). Once that new car smell wears off and people are having to pay more and more just to access some SC2 events will tell the true tale of this PPV model. | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:04 jmbthirteen wrote: how early do you want them to start? They started at 10:30am local time after going pretty late the night before. You really want players starting early in the morning after playing late into the night? Didnt they start at 19h30 CET which is 13h30 EST and thus local time? So yes I do want them to start at 10h30 EST which would be 16h30 in CET | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:09 Chenz wrote: Don't show all games, start earlier on the Friday, start on Thursday or reduce downtime. It's not impossible, but I'm not saying it's feasible either. All I know is that it's quite hard to motivate yourself to spend $20 on an event and then being unable to watch the finals. Also, it might be possible to have the event go Thursday to Saturday, that would also make the events more EU friendly. Just for the record, MLG is an American tournament so their schedule is probably always going to be tailored for American audiences. This is true for every continent. Assembly wasn't exactly American friendly and GSL requires us to be nocturnal. Not trying to say "screw the Euros!" but just saying that tournament schedules are going to be tailored for a specific audience. | ||
ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:15 Klondikebar wrote: Just for the record, MLG is an American tournament so their schedule is probably always going to be tailored for American audiences. This is true for every continent. Assembly wasn't exactly American friendly and GSL requires us to be nocturnal. Not trying to say "screw the Euros!" but just saying that tournament schedules are going to be tailored for a specific audience. Don't care when it starts but don't charge me the same as the target audience. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:15 Klondikebar wrote: Just for the record, MLG is an American tournament so their schedule is probably always going to be tailored for American audiences. This is true for every continent. Assembly wasn't exactly American friendly and GSL requires us to be nocturnal. Not trying to say "screw the Euros!" but just saying that tournament schedules are going to be tailored for a specific audience. Of course it should be played out during times which are watchable for the American viewers, I get that. But seeing as it's just a couple of hour away from being quite friendly for us Europeans, I'd love to see them look into making that possible without hurting their current viewers. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:12 Titorelli wrote: Didnt they start at 19h30 CET which is 13h30 EST and thus local time? So yes I do want them to start at 10h30 EST which would be 16h30 in CET my bad, I was doing my local time. Starting earlier would alienate the west coast from early games. MLG is an American tournament with American companies backing it. Sorry Europe, but you aren't the target audience here. Complaining about tournaments times is just useless and silly. They go at the best times from them to run local. I missed pretty much all of the Asus tournament, the games I watched were after midnight. Thats just the way things work. | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:18 ceaRshaf wrote: Don't care when it starts but don't charge me the same as the target audience. That's actually a fair complaint. They should probably look into tiered region pricing...if twitch can make it work. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:18 ceaRshaf wrote: Don't care when it starts but don't charge me the same as the target audience. Well then I don't want to pay the same thing for GSL. It starts at 1 a.m for me and is over by 6 a.m. on long days. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:34 BlindSight754 wrote: Actually I buy my music off iTunes. Regardless of whether its not a "missed buy" or not its still access to content that MLG intended to be only for paying customers. If the person isn't going to pay for it they shouldn't watch it. I guess I can go take a car because I didn't intend to buy it anyways? Therefore its not a missed buy? Please stop comparisons with stealing. It is a broken analogy. By stealing a car you are actually depriving owner of something. By pirating content you are depriving them of potential sales at worst. I might agree with you that pirating stuff is wrong, but analogies to stealing are bad and make no sense. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
I felt the production was nice as far as graphics and beautiful quality video, I had no lag at 1080p. However it felt boring and uninspired between games and matches. It was dead silent (no crowd duh) and tasteless/artosis feeding back and for with jp/catz was kinda mergh. I know some people enjoyed that and in theory replay analysis with a pro player is a good idea, it just felt flat to me. From the brief moments I watched, I enjoyed that MLG stepped up the visual production but overall didn't feel left out or bad that I didn't pay. The freeview I got didn't make me feel I need to purchase future arenas. Anyway, workwork. | ||
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:24 jmbthirteen wrote: Well then I don't want to pay the same thing for GSL. It starts at 1 a.m for me and is over by 6 a.m. on long days. GSL is not complaining about not making money so they might not care since they already are the best tournament. MLG is far from GLS so they shouldn't be in a position where they don't treat their clients with interest. Also GSL is not as rare as MLG so the live experience is a more important aspect that should cost more. If I am watching vods ( vods mind you, nor rebroadcast cause MLG doesn't do that) why should I pay the same as USA that felt the hype in the middle of the day? | ||
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AysiktiriX
358 Posts
Well then I don't want to pay the same thing for GSL. It starts at 1 a.m for me and is over by 6 a.m. on long days. Your argument fails badly. Why? Because you can watch the VoDs on the same day and without any spoilers, if you are careful enough, because GSL has way less games/day than the marathon type MLG. I pay for GSL and even though I can watch the live stream, I prefer watching the "fresh" vods in the evening(skipping all the downtime too). | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:30 AysiktiriX wrote: Your argument fails badly. Why? Because you can watch the VoDs on the same day and without any spoilers, if you are careful enough, because GSL has way less games/day than the marathon type MLG. I pay for GSL and even though I can watch the live stream, I prefer watching the "fresh" vods in the evening(skipping all the downtime too). Your argument fails badly too. MLG had VODs available within minutes of the games being played. | ||
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