Instead of a good 2v2 match i think we should do it differently. PP vs TZ is just no good for 2's. We should do a KOTH between the 4 that doesn't stop untill somebody wins 3 games in a row imo
edit. Then they can be granted Master Status...So its like 2 Jedi Knights and 2 Padawans fighting for a seat at the council
On February 19 2012 02:27 Liquid`Ret wrote: This was obviously just meant as a joke, and a little trash talking never hurt anyone. I respect Grubby and his carreer in E-sports, and everything he does. I look forward to playing him lots of times in the future and I am sure that he is just going to keep improving and be an even bigger force in the community than he already is now.
To all the haters, lighten up a little please!
We only know you were joking Ret, we're just bad overreactors (myself included). I dont think anybody thinks it wasn't in good fun, it just seemed that way because of the timing and with what Demuslim said on stream. Apart from your choice of certain words it had some nice funny points. A few more attempts and you could be a good parody/troll writer. As others said, great idea, slightly bad attempt. Sall Good. You've been on fire recently. GL in the upcoming tournies (as long as you don't knock out any of my fav protoss ok?)
Oh, did you now?
Let us look at your comment earlier:
On February 19 2012 00:49 ohampatu wrote: Why do so many people think this is fucking funny. Is it the cool thing now to bash on another progamer's thread about helping somebody out. I don't care if you don't think the mentor-ship that Grubby is doing is going to work, trolling him about it is useless and doesn't mean much.
Ret vs Grubby is currently 6-5. So yea, Ret your so baller for smashing Grubby LOL.
Grubby is a God, while you will never ever achieve the things he has in his life. I actually used to like you Ret, just felt that you needed somebody to mentor you, because you make the same exact mistakes now as you did 6 months ago, which is ironic because you make fun of a programer that has done litterally 3x as much as you for trying to help someone out. Maybe you should ask if Grubby can give you some tips? Because while your skill is stagnating Grubby is better every single day. I just lost the little respect I did have for you
Seems to me like you were apalled that people thought it was funny. But doing an 180 degree turn is of course not very surprising.
I was very upset about how funny people thought it was and overreacted as my first post, and have said that more than once. That post wasn't really all about ret, it was more about how every comment after seemed to deem Ret some funny troll when in regards this is the worst troll attempt ive ever seen and very disrespectful. Read my last 15 posts, non of them are bashing anybody. As ive said, i overreacted on my first post, but have since said quite a bit more than that. Im not doing a 180 at all, i was trying to be nice to Ret when I replied to him, is that bad? As i said, my thoughts haven't changed: *Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players. *This was a good troll attempt, but bad implementation. Those 2 points sums up my thought on this thread. Nazgul said it best
edit: @Forikorder, that would be a good idea, but PP vs TZ would end up with TZ crushing i believe. Mebe do a KOTH with all 4. Whoever wins 3 games in a row first gets master status?
He's only an iconic figure in E-sports if you followed Warcraft 3, in SC2 he's improving but hasn't really achieved much of note. The worship he receives that is totally out of proportion with his actual accomplishments in Starcraft, which makes it easy to enjoy him being gently teased.
On February 19 2012 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Jokes are not for everyone. Never will you make a joke that every single person out there likes. If you dislike a joke and hate on it hard enough, you will find yourself in a scene where nobody dares to make jokes anymore. There's no reason why you should have found this funny, however just take it easy if this wasn't your humor. So that the next time a player wants to make a joke that may appeal to you, he is not afraid to give it a try.
I love Grubby and he is amazing. When you are doing good things, and you use them for some self promotion, it is still infinitely better than not doing good things at all. GO GRUBBY!
I don't think people are mad that he made a joke(jokes are for everyone =p), it's the double standard moderation that people don't like. If any other person made a joke thread like this it would be instantly closed. For example if Idra made a full thread making fun of cruncher he'd probably get another 6 month ban. Plus Grubby has gotta be the nicest guy ever so it's sad to see him being made fun of and it being endorsed by the most highly moderated forum.
On February 19 2012 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Jokes are not for everyone. Never will you make a joke that every single person out there likes. If you dislike a joke and hate on it hard enough, you will find yourself in a scene where nobody dares to make jokes anymore. There's no reason why you should have found this funny, however just take it easy if this wasn't your humor. So that the next time a player wants to make a joke that may appeal to you, he is not afraid to give it a try.
I love Grubby and he is amazing. When you are doing good things, and you use them for some self promotion, it is still infinitely better than not doing good things at all. GO GRUBBY!
I don't think people are mad that he made a joke(jokes are for everyone =p), it's the double standard moderation that people don't like. If any other person made a joke thread like this it would be instantly closed. For example if Idra made a full thread making fun of cruncher he'd probably get another 6 month ban. Plus Grubby has gotta be the nicest guy ever so it's sad to see him being made fun of and it being endorsed by the most highly moderated forum.
I'm pretty sure Liquid members get more freedom to post on teamliquid.net
*Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players.
Yea, he is good at Janga
now i know why he is posting so great news! his blog failed....
On February 19 2012 02:27 Liquid`Ret wrote: This was obviously just meant as a joke, and a little trash talking never hurt anyone. I respect Grubby and his carreer in E-sports, and everything he does. I look forward to playing him lots of times in the future and I am sure that he is just going to keep improving and be an even bigger force in the community than he already is now.
To all the haters, lighten up a little please!
We only know you were joking Ret, we're just bad overreactors (myself included). I dont think anybody thinks it wasn't in good fun, it just seemed that way because of the timing and with what Demuslim said on stream. Apart from your choice of certain words it had some nice funny points. A few more attempts and you could be a good parody/troll writer. As others said, great idea, slightly bad attempt. Sall Good. You've been on fire recently. GL in the upcoming tournies (as long as you don't knock out any of my fav protoss ok?)
Oh, did you now?
Let us look at your comment earlier:
On February 19 2012 00:49 ohampatu wrote: Why do so many people think this is fucking funny. Is it the cool thing now to bash on another progamer's thread about helping somebody out. I don't care if you don't think the mentor-ship that Grubby is doing is going to work, trolling him about it is useless and doesn't mean much.
Ret vs Grubby is currently 6-5. So yea, Ret your so baller for smashing Grubby LOL.
Grubby is a God, while you will never ever achieve the things he has in his life. I actually used to like you Ret, just felt that you needed somebody to mentor you, because you make the same exact mistakes now as you did 6 months ago, which is ironic because you make fun of a programer that has done litterally 3x as much as you for trying to help someone out. Maybe you should ask if Grubby can give you some tips? Because while your skill is stagnating Grubby is better every single day. I just lost the little respect I did have for you
Seems to me like you were apalled that people thought it was funny. But doing an 180 degree turn is of course not very surprising.
I was very upset about how funny people thought it was and overreacted as my first post, and have said that more than once. That post wasn't really all about ret, it was more about how every comment after seemed to deem Ret some funny troll when in regards this is the worst troll attempt ive ever seen and very disrespectful. Read my last 15 posts, non of them are bashing anybody. As ive said, i overreacted on my first post, but have since said quite a bit more than that. Im not doing a 180 at all, i was trying to be nice to Ret when I replied to him, is that bad? As i said, my thoughts haven't changed: *Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players. *This was a good troll attempt, but bad implementation. Those 2 points sums up my thought on this thread. Nazgul said it best
edit: @Forikorder, that would be a good idea, but PP vs TZ would end up with TZ crushing i believe. Mebe do a KOTH with all 4. Whoever wins 3 games in a row first gets master status?
He's only an iconic figure in E-sports if you followed Warcraft 3, in SC2 he's improving but hasn't really achieved much of note. The worship he receives that is totally out of proportion with his actual accomplishments in Starcraft, which makes it easy to enjoy him being gently teased.
It doesn't matter which game you play. People need to stop breaking down Esports into subcategories. Just because he was in Warcraft 3 and not SC1 doesn't make him any less important to esports. In fact, as has been stated, Grubby has International success in numerous different countries, where most bonjwas were isolated to just KR. This is just like all the Hon/LOL/Dota hate SC2 fans throwout. You guys need to realize that 'esports' involve more than 1 game. His sc2 accomplishments have absolutely nothing to do without how good a mentor he can be to a progamer
On February 19 2012 02:27 Liquid`Ret wrote: This was obviously just meant as a joke, and a little trash talking never hurt anyone. I respect Grubby and his carreer in E-sports, and everything he does. I look forward to playing him lots of times in the future and I am sure that he is just going to keep improving and be an even bigger force in the community than he already is now.
To all the haters, lighten up a little please!
We only know you were joking Ret, we're just bad overreactors (myself included). I dont think anybody thinks it wasn't in good fun, it just seemed that way because of the timing and with what Demuslim said on stream. Apart from your choice of certain words it had some nice funny points. A few more attempts and you could be a good parody/troll writer. As others said, great idea, slightly bad attempt. Sall Good. You've been on fire recently. GL in the upcoming tournies (as long as you don't knock out any of my fav protoss ok?)
Oh, did you now?
Let us look at your comment earlier:
On February 19 2012 00:49 ohampatu wrote: Why do so many people think this is fucking funny. Is it the cool thing now to bash on another progamer's thread about helping somebody out. I don't care if you don't think the mentor-ship that Grubby is doing is going to work, trolling him about it is useless and doesn't mean much.
Ret vs Grubby is currently 6-5. So yea, Ret your so baller for smashing Grubby LOL.
Grubby is a God, while you will never ever achieve the things he has in his life. I actually used to like you Ret, just felt that you needed somebody to mentor you, because you make the same exact mistakes now as you did 6 months ago, which is ironic because you make fun of a programer that has done litterally 3x as much as you for trying to help someone out. Maybe you should ask if Grubby can give you some tips? Because while your skill is stagnating Grubby is better every single day. I just lost the little respect I did have for you
Seems to me like you were apalled that people thought it was funny. But doing an 180 degree turn is of course not very surprising.
I was very upset about how funny people thought it was and overreacted as my first post, and have said that more than once. That post wasn't really all about ret, it was more about how every comment after seemed to deem Ret some funny troll when in regards this is the worst troll attempt ive ever seen and very disrespectful. Read my last 15 posts, non of them are bashing anybody. As ive said, i overreacted on my first post, but have since said quite a bit more than that. Im not doing a 180 at all, i was trying to be nice to Ret when I replied to him, is that bad? As i said, my thoughts haven't changed: *Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players. *This was a good troll attempt, but bad implementation. Those 2 points sums up my thought on this thread. Nazgul said it best
edit: @Forikorder, that would be a good idea, but PP vs TZ would end up with TZ crushing i believe. Mebe do a KOTH with all 4. Whoever wins 3 games in a row first gets master status?
He's only an iconic figure in E-sports if you followed Warcraft 3, in SC2 he's improving but hasn't really achieved much of note. The worship he receives that is totally out of proportion with his actual accomplishments in Starcraft, which makes it easy to enjoy him being gently teased.
It doesn't matter which game you play. People need to stop breaking down Esports into subcategories. Just because he was in Warcraft 3 and not SC1 doesn't make him any less important to esports. In fact, as has been stated, Grubby has International success in numerous different countries, where most bonjwas were isolated to just KR. This is just like all the Hon/LOL/Dota hate SC2 fans throwout. You guys need to realize that 'esports' involve more than 1 game. His sc2 accomplishments have absolutely nothing to do without how good a mentor he can be to a progamer
And sports involves more than say ball games. That does not mean that mobile phone tossing is on equal terms with football.
On February 19 2012 02:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Jokes are not for everyone. Never will you make a joke that every single person out there likes. If you dislike a joke and hate on it hard enough, you will find yourself in a scene where nobody dares to make jokes anymore. There's no reason why you should have found this funny, however just take it easy if this wasn't your humor. So that the next time a player wants to make a joke that may appeal to you, he is not afraid to give it a try.
I love Grubby and he is amazing. When you are doing good things, and you use them for some self promotion, it is still infinitely better than not doing good things at all. GO GRUBBY!
I don't think people are mad that he made a joke(jokes are for everyone =p), it's the double standard moderation that people don't like. If any other person made a joke thread like this it would be instantly closed. For example if Idra made a full thread making fun of cruncher he'd probably get another 6 month ban. Plus Grubby has gotta be the nicest guy ever so it's sad to see him being made fun of and it being endorsed by the most highly moderated forum.
I'm pretty sure Liquid members get more freedom to post on teamliquid.net
Why is that such a hard concept to grasp?
Its not a hard concept to grasp. But you can't expect people to be happy that not everyone is being treated equal.
On February 19 2012 02:27 Liquid`Ret wrote: This was obviously just meant as a joke, and a little trash talking never hurt anyone. I respect Grubby and his carreer in E-sports, and everything he does. I look forward to playing him lots of times in the future and I am sure that he is just going to keep improving and be an even bigger force in the community than he already is now.
To all the haters, lighten up a little please!
We only know you were joking Ret, we're just bad overreactors (myself included). I dont think anybody thinks it wasn't in good fun, it just seemed that way because of the timing and with what Demuslim said on stream. Apart from your choice of certain words it had some nice funny points. A few more attempts and you could be a good parody/troll writer. As others said, great idea, slightly bad attempt. Sall Good. You've been on fire recently. GL in the upcoming tournies (as long as you don't knock out any of my fav protoss ok?)
Oh, did you now?
Let us look at your comment earlier:
On February 19 2012 00:49 ohampatu wrote: Why do so many people think this is fucking funny. Is it the cool thing now to bash on another progamer's thread about helping somebody out. I don't care if you don't think the mentor-ship that Grubby is doing is going to work, trolling him about it is useless and doesn't mean much.
Ret vs Grubby is currently 6-5. So yea, Ret your so baller for smashing Grubby LOL.
Grubby is a God, while you will never ever achieve the things he has in his life. I actually used to like you Ret, just felt that you needed somebody to mentor you, because you make the same exact mistakes now as you did 6 months ago, which is ironic because you make fun of a programer that has done litterally 3x as much as you for trying to help someone out. Maybe you should ask if Grubby can give you some tips? Because while your skill is stagnating Grubby is better every single day. I just lost the little respect I did have for you
Seems to me like you were apalled that people thought it was funny. But doing an 180 degree turn is of course not very surprising.
I was very upset about how funny people thought it was and overreacted as my first post, and have said that more than once. That post wasn't really all about ret, it was more about how every comment after seemed to deem Ret some funny troll when in regards this is the worst troll attempt ive ever seen and very disrespectful. Read my last 15 posts, non of them are bashing anybody. As ive said, i overreacted on my first post, but have since said quite a bit more than that. Im not doing a 180 at all, i was trying to be nice to Ret when I replied to him, is that bad? As i said, my thoughts haven't changed: *Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players. *This was a good troll attempt, but bad implementation. Those 2 points sums up my thought on this thread. Nazgul said it best
edit: @Forikorder, that would be a good idea, but PP vs TZ would end up with TZ crushing i believe. Mebe do a KOTH with all 4. Whoever wins 3 games in a row first gets master status?
He's only an iconic figure in E-sports if you followed Warcraft 3, in SC2 he's improving but hasn't really achieved much of note. The worship he receives that is totally out of proportion with his actual accomplishments in Starcraft, which makes it easy to enjoy him being gently teased.
It doesn't matter which game you play. People need to stop breaking down Esports into subcategories. Just because he was in Warcraft 3 and not SC1 doesn't make him any less important to esports. In fact, as has been stated, Grubby has International success in numerous different countries, where most bonjwas were isolated to just KR. This is just like all the Hon/LOL/Dota hate SC2 fans throwout. You guys need to realize that 'esports' involve more than 1 game. His sc2 accomplishments have absolutely nothing to do without how good a mentor he can be to a progamer
And sports involves more than say ball games. That does not mean that mobile phone tossing is on equal terms with football.
You're equating mobile phone tossing to WC3? This might be the worst analogy on the entire internet. Grubby already has more accomplishments in Esports than both Ret and DeMuslim will likely ever have combined. <3 both Ret/DeMuslim but those of you saying Grubby has "no accomplishments" are clueless.
On February 19 2012 02:03 Gomas wrote: This is a PR move by Grubby to get his first homo thread even more hits.
Would be better if feast's mentor is a girl? Or the other way?
hmmm depends Female mentor X Feast is a very refreshing pairing. but then Feast X Female mentor would feel a bit weird and make it harder to write. I mean it isn't easy to make advances on your superiors right? I mean how many times do you get to hit on your boss.
Now we could have the situation where the Female mentor makes a move on Feast
"Mentor we can't...." Feast said desperately as he was seized by his mentor. She firmly held Feast down so that he couldn't move an inch. He was like a helpless prey in front of a hungry predator. She stared into Feast's eye with the look of a cunning a cat and slowly unbuttoned this shirt.
Something along those lines you know.
Actually the other pairing us also possible.
"feast, we can't I am your mentor." The mentor pleaded desperately, but feast's capability to think ha already been over whelmed by his urges of lust.
That could work too
Is your every passing thought new pro gamer pairings to write slash fiction about?
A pity the lack of female progamers limits my Yuri writing chances.
On February 19 2012 02:27 Liquid`Ret wrote: This was obviously just meant as a joke, and a little trash talking never hurt anyone. I respect Grubby and his carreer in E-sports, and everything he does. I look forward to playing him lots of times in the future and I am sure that he is just going to keep improving and be an even bigger force in the community than he already is now.
To all the haters, lighten up a little please!
We only know you were joking Ret, we're just bad overreactors (myself included). I dont think anybody thinks it wasn't in good fun, it just seemed that way because of the timing and with what Demuslim said on stream. Apart from your choice of certain words it had some nice funny points. A few more attempts and you could be a good parody/troll writer. As others said, great idea, slightly bad attempt. Sall Good. You've been on fire recently. GL in the upcoming tournies (as long as you don't knock out any of my fav protoss ok?)
Oh, did you now?
Let us look at your comment earlier:
On February 19 2012 00:49 ohampatu wrote: Why do so many people think this is fucking funny. Is it the cool thing now to bash on another progamer's thread about helping somebody out. I don't care if you don't think the mentor-ship that Grubby is doing is going to work, trolling him about it is useless and doesn't mean much.
Ret vs Grubby is currently 6-5. So yea, Ret your so baller for smashing Grubby LOL.
Grubby is a God, while you will never ever achieve the things he has in his life. I actually used to like you Ret, just felt that you needed somebody to mentor you, because you make the same exact mistakes now as you did 6 months ago, which is ironic because you make fun of a programer that has done litterally 3x as much as you for trying to help someone out. Maybe you should ask if Grubby can give you some tips? Because while your skill is stagnating Grubby is better every single day. I just lost the little respect I did have for you
Seems to me like you were apalled that people thought it was funny. But doing an 180 degree turn is of course not very surprising.
I was very upset about how funny people thought it was and overreacted as my first post, and have said that more than once. That post wasn't really all about ret, it was more about how every comment after seemed to deem Ret some funny troll when in regards this is the worst troll attempt ive ever seen and very disrespectful. Read my last 15 posts, non of them are bashing anybody. As ive said, i overreacted on my first post, but have since said quite a bit more than that. Im not doing a 180 at all, i was trying to be nice to Ret when I replied to him, is that bad? As i said, my thoughts haven't changed: *Ret/Demuslim should give Grubby the respect he deserves, they are no where near his level. He is an iconic figure of Esports while they are just good players. *This was a good troll attempt, but bad implementation. Those 2 points sums up my thought on this thread. Nazgul said it best
edit: @Forikorder, that would be a good idea, but PP vs TZ would end up with TZ crushing i believe. Mebe do a KOTH with all 4. Whoever wins 3 games in a row first gets master status?
He's only an iconic figure in E-sports if you followed Warcraft 3, in SC2 he's improving but hasn't really achieved much of note. The worship he receives that is totally out of proportion with his actual accomplishments in Starcraft, which makes it easy to enjoy him being gently teased.
It doesn't matter which game you play. People need to stop breaking down Esports into subcategories. Just because he was in Warcraft 3 and not SC1 doesn't make him any less important to esports. In fact, as has been stated, Grubby has International success in numerous different countries, where most bonjwas were isolated to just KR. This is just like all the Hon/LOL/Dota hate SC2 fans throwout. You guys need to realize that 'esports' involve more than 1 game. His sc2 accomplishments have absolutely nothing to do without how good a mentor he can be to a progamer
And sports involves more than say ball games. That does not mean that mobile phone tossing is on equal terms with football.
Your post literally doesn't make any sense. Are you saying that Warcraft 3 is equal to phone tossing in terms of skill while SC1 is football???? Sorry bro, not true. Yes some games require more skill than others, but thats not about this. All this topic is about is Grubby Mentoring a up and coming progamer. Grubby can help as much as anybody, and possibly more than others because his success is international where as others were isolated. Its a good thing
Also, and hate to double post. What about my idea of a 4 man KOTH untill somebody wins 3 in a row. Since the underlying theme seems to be two jedi knights with 2 padawans, we must find out who is granted master status!!!!
EPT
