posted by Carmac:: To all of the confused folks: if you win a group you are in the quarterfinal automatically, one playoffs round further than the rest. 2nd/3rd finishers start one round earlier and play each other (cross-group ofc), then play group winners in quarters
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what] do you think? Will every qualified player be participating? Will the korean dominance of IEM continue or who will break it? what is the
Id say group C is deceptively deadly. Its not like group A where there is a complete allstar that is going take it (cough MMA), its just that everyone in that group is a badass.
Excited to see how PuMa does in this group as well as Assembly. I have a feeling the podium will be loaded with Koreans much like last years IEM finals. Hope that they announce the tandem of Day9 and Rotterdam again for this event. It was definately one of the wildest events to watch in 2011.
On February 18 2012 08:01 Eee wrote: Really strong lineup! Kind of dispointing that not a single swede qualified though! :/
Many of the top swedes are now playing in Korea or are staples of MLG so I think its not that big of a deal. IMO practicing/competing in Korea > IEM Its extremely difficult to compete in MLG AND IEM at the same time.
Interested in seeing how PuMa will do considering there is only 2 Protoss in his group, he will probably get like 3rd in his group after DIMAGA and Zenio since 1/1/1 against Zerg is pretty hard to pull off, but PuMa can do it since that's the only strategy he's been using since he started playing, I think he knows how to execute it well enough that he can use it and beat Zergs and Terrans.
On February 18 2012 08:01 Eee wrote: Really strong lineup! Kind of dispointing that not a single swede qualified though! :/
Many of the top swedes are now playing in Korea or are staples of MLG so I think its not that big of a deal. IMO practicing/competing in Korea > IEM Its extremely difficult to compete in MLG AND IEM at the same time.
Sase wasnt competing in MLGs when he atteneded Cologne, SjoW skipped an MLG and went Korea to practice specically for IEM NY, Naniwa had a free schedule up to his Kiev run and last MLG ThorZaIN attended was last spring. Your statement isn¨t really valid in any kind of way, all of them just underperformed badly.
On February 18 2012 08:16 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote: WTF? How is Group D more stacked than A? Group D only has Supernova DRG and 4 Peanuts while Grp A has Violet, MMA and JYP
kas is a peanut while violet is a topplayer like MMA or DRG? i have to disagree man. kas and violet are even to me.
So the group that is voted weakest on the poll has PuMa DIMAGA FruitDealer MaNa Gatored Zenio I wish every tournaments weakest group was that, going to be an amazing tournament.
On February 18 2012 08:01 Eee wrote: Really strong lineup! Kind of dispointing that not a single swede qualified though! :/
Many of the top swedes are now playing in Korea or are staples of MLG so I think its not that big of a deal. IMO practicing/competing in Korea > IEM Its extremely difficult to compete in MLG AND IEM at the same time.
It really isn't, it's more to do with Swedes who qualified for IEM events doing badly (Naniwa out in group stages etc)
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
who was talking about idra? its more the fact that DRG is there (who is the best zerg in the world atm...) as well as other top players (ahem supernova)
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
No, it's just that DongRaeGu and SuperNoVa are better than everyone in Group A put together
DRG and supernova are good... but better then MMA JYP and viOlet put together? lol don't be silly.
Edit: Also I don;t think D can be considered a group of death... Group of death is a group of insane skillledp layers where you have no clue who will advance.. Group D has two CLEAR favourites in DRG and Supernova and therefore imo not a group of death
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
No, it's just that DongRaeGu and SuperNoVa are better than everyone in Group A put together
DRG and supernova are good... but better then MMA JYP and viOlet put together? lol don't be silly.
Edit: Also I don;t think D can be considered a group of death... Group of death is a group of insane skillledp layers where you have no clue who will advance.. Group D has two CLEAR favourites in DRG and Supernova and therefore imo not a group of death
well kas is a beast just been struggling at live events but still has a good shot feast went 3:0 at his saopaulo grp than loosing the Real as we talk about real he barely lost to supernove 2:3 at the semifinals and also idra cant be counted out as we saw at Guangzhou!
as far as the most unpredictable group is the group of death it should be C allthough it doesnt have the real "heavy weights" but i think its pretty evenin this goup and i expect it to be the closest grp
On February 18 2012 12:37 Rinrun wrote: Real. It's group C. Dark-horse in the group of death race.
Yeah. I would say C is most evenly matched. Besides Gatored everyone is really scary. I actually think these groups are pretty even if you compare them to other tournaments. No one that totally stands out.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
D is a group of death for IdrA lol...
Ha, yeah. I'd say he's the weakest player in that group. Idra is in such a slump ever since IEM China. Feast probably would be the weakest of that group except Idra seems like he's on perma-tilt these days.
Bring the jacket MMA. I'm also cheering viOlet, IdrA, DongRaeGu, Kas, MC, Hasu. Actually I like a ton of these players, and the rest I don't really know <3
This is madness I tell you, MADNESS. I'm excited, this tournament is gonna rock, the groups are amazing, we've even got some notable rematches (Idra Kas, Mana Puma, MC Sound) just at the group stages, the final 4 of this promises to be ridiculous.
I think people underestimate the potential of group C =D puma is always solid and mana and dimaga have had some really good matches that ive seen lately
ummm, curious, can someone tell me how it is a reward to win the group? So, someone wins a group so that player gets a bye into the quarters and his reward in the quarters is to get to play another player that got first in another group? Considering IEM doesn't normally do a backdoor (losers bracket) how exactly is it a good thing to win a group then since it would be harder...
Wow I am so excited for this event, I actually think an argument can be made that every group is close to the group of death, although Group A I feel MMA, JYP, and Violet will go untouched until they play each other but socke always makes ridiculous comebacks so we'll see. Can't wait >.<
Group A: JYP will not advance. Strelok and MMA are more than capable of defeating JYP's PvT. i predict Socke and the nature of European vs Korean PvP knocking JYP out.
Group B:
HasuObs will not advance. Elfi and MC are PvP gods, and the rest of the group are more than capable of taking him out.
Sound will advance. He only has two matchups to prepare for, and no one in the group is particularly strong vT except Nerchio.
Group C:
Zenio will advance. His ZvP is excellent whereas Dimaga has been known to crack under well executed protoss timings.
FruitDealer is the wildcard. Has he been practicing? Is he taking this seriously? Let's be honest here: no one has seen his games since New York.
Group D (INSANE/Unpredictable):
Why Kas SHOULD advance: Kas has shown that he is extremely potent in long term macro management games something that SuperNova, IdrA, and DRG all favor vs Terran.
Why IdrA MIGHT not advance: He has been streaming and playing the Korean ladder so much, it's very likely that ReaL, SuperNova and DRG and their Korean houses are preparing something special for the grack. It's no secret that it's easy to throw IdrA off balance, and having a camera on stream is a good way to tell what builds piss you off.
To all of the confused folks: if you win a group you are in the quarterfinal automatically, one playoffs round further than the rest. 2nd/3rd finishers start one round earlier and play each other (cross-group ofc), then play group winners in quarters.
On February 18 2012 17:29 GodOfWar wrote: my picks
Group A
MMA viOlet
Group B
MC Nerchio
Group C
PuMa Zenio / FD (gogo FD !)
Group D
DRG SuperNoVa
sorry guys, cant see any other foreigner besides Nerchio making it through, especially Group D is so rdiciolous stacked, wouldnt be surprised if the Gracken gets last :D
On February 18 2012 17:29 GodOfWar wrote: my picks
Group A
MMA viOlet
Group B
MC Nerchio
Group C
PuMa Zenio / FD (gogo FD !)
Group D
DRG SuperNoVa
sorry guys, cant see any other foreigner besides Nerchio making it through, especially Group D is so rdiciolous stacked, wouldnt be surprised if the Gracken gets last :D
lol Zenio and Superniova? omg..they now very very bad play. supernova noob. he can doing only drops 30 nim all game ahahha
SuperNova is still Superstrong, he should beat Kas, Zenio does have weak times and stronger times, but I see him advancing now with ZvZ being one of his better matchups.
no underdogs but I can't see these guys not advancing. (Love that people are shitting on IdrA when a few months ago he came made top 8 at Providence, and won Gongzhou which last I checked both tournaments had really good players/programmers.) So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: GA) MMA, Violet, JYP
GB) MC, Sound, Ret (though could be Nerchio)
GC) PuMa, Dimaga, Zenio
GD) DRG, Supernova, Idra
no underdogs but I can't see these guys not advancing. (Love that people are shitting on IdrA when a few months ago he came made top 8 at Providence, and won Gongzhou which last I checked both tournaments had really good players/programmers.) So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
Uhm, not to sound too offending, but right now I wouldnt even categorize him among Top 30 Foreigners in the world.
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
Uhm, not to sound too offending, but right now I wouldnt even categorize him among Top 30 Foreigners in the world.
On February 18 2012 18:12 Kompicek wrote: Is the tournament entry fee free? I couldnt find it anywhere on the site, was thinking about coming to germany for the event!
It's free if you're smart. You need to get into CeBIT - there are ways to register for the event online and get tickets for free. Follow @intelem on Twitter to find out. We will support people with the know-how.
On February 18 2012 18:17 Bulkers wrote: Very stacked tournament, if we will have 1 foreign in top8 it will be a surprise..
Im curious when Carmac will announce PPV for it... Probably like MLG few days before event XD /joke
I will sooner announce that HD is free than that you cannot watch the event unless you pay.
That's what i wanted to read!
Anyway, super stacked tournament. Sad i will only be able to watch half of it due to the date it will be on, however i'll be able to watch the last 2-3 days so it should be fine.
D has DRG and Kas, but in group A everybody besides Killer is very good. Overall the lineup looks very promising. Especially the playoffs might be siiick!
D is impressive cause of Kas, DRG, and SN. Hopefully Idra proves me wrong with his performance in this tourney but he just doesn't seem on the level of those 3 as of now. I'd say B is the real group of death though. People are way underestimating elfi, nerchio, sound...and hasu, mc, ret is scary enough.
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: GA) MMA, Violet, JYP
GB) MC, Sound, Ret (though could be Nerchio)
GC) PuMa, Dimaga, Zenio
GD) DRG, Supernova, Idra
no underdogs but I can't see these guys not advancing. (Love that people are shitting on IdrA when a few months ago he came made top 8 at Providence, and won Gongzhou which last I checked both tournaments had really good players/programmers.) So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
We will see I predict that Idra goes 1-5.
Please don't use the retarded seeding system of MLG to prove top 8 in providence... he only neeed to win one bo3...
A > D > C > B - But hey, it's nice to finally vote on the group that actually ISN'T winning the vote for group of death. Just means this tournament is STACKED! \o/
hm, looks like dimaga could end up as the highest placed non-korean yet again. will be a toss up between him, ret, nerchio, idra and kas. idras zvt should be sick by now so he might win against kas for once but european players will have the advantage of no jetlag so kas will likely still be the favorite in that match.
On February 18 2012 19:38 Arc1 wrote: Lets hope no one will cancel his participation in this tournament.
I haven't seen one tourney last half a year where there werent last minute cancels. (for example someone getting ill or visas or or or) There is a good lineup though on the runner up spots :D
As for preplanning a possible visit, would be nice to get the schedule out earlier than usual. Like, will games only last until 18.00 because then the cebit closes doors?
The thing about group A is that I can only see 2 of those players actually advancing from the tournament, none of the others even have a shot. Even if that technically makes it the hardest group for most of the players, I think that group D has the hardest all around lineup. A few good protoss players, a really good zerg, a decent Zerg (IdrA), and few good - really good terran players. I am definite that DRG is making it out, but other than that I think SuperNova will probably make it out as well. If it's top 3 advance, I'll predict DRG (1st), SuperNova (2nd), Kas 3rd. If top 2, then DRG/SuperNova definitely.
Group A is most certainly the group with the most skill level. Group D is eye candy with the high caliber players, however I don't think the players in said group can compare the the raw skill DRG brings.
On February 18 2012 08:01 Eee wrote: Really strong lineup! Kind of dispointing that not a single swede qualified though! :/
Many of the top swedes are now playing in Korea or are staples of MLG so I think its not that big of a deal. IMO practicing/competing in Korea > IEM Its extremely difficult to compete in MLG AND IEM at the same time.
It really isn't, it's more to do with Swedes who qualified for IEM events doing badly (Naniwa out in group stages etc)
Naniwa won his group though, he got knocked out by zenio in the ro8.
They're all so similiar in skill, but i would perhaps line it D, A, B, C. Having said that i'm looking most forward to group C, IT HAS SO MANY WILDCARDS..
On February 18 2012 17:06 Gamegene wrote: Group A: JYP will not advance. Strelok and MMA are more than capable of defeating JYP's PvT. i predict Socke and the nature of European vs Korean PvP knocking JYP out.
Group B:
HasuObs will not advance. Elfi and MC are PvP gods, and the rest of the group are more than capable of taking him out.
Sound will advance. He only has two matchups to prepare for, and no one in the group is particularly strong vT except Nerchio.
Group C:
Zenio will advance. His ZvP is excellent whereas Dimaga has been known to crack under well executed protoss timings.
FruitDealer is the wildcard. Has he been practicing? Is he taking this seriously? Let's be honest here: no one has seen his games since New York.
Group D (INSANE/Unpredictable):
Why Kas SHOULD advance: Kas has shown that he is extremely potent in long term macro management games something that SuperNova, IdrA, and DRG all favor vs Terran.
Why IdrA MIGHT not advance: He has been streaming and playing the Korean ladder so much, it's very likely that ReaL, SuperNova and DRG and their Korean houses are preparing something special for the grack. It's no secret that it's easy to throw IdrA off balance, and having a camera on stream is a good way to tell what builds piss you off.
Oh also: Protoss.
Real lives in Germany though (and has been for almost half a year).
On February 18 2012 17:19 Carmac wrote: To all of the confused folks: if you win a group you are in the quarterfinal automatically, one playoffs round further than the rest. 2nd/3rd finishers start one round earlier and play each other (cross-group ofc), then play group winners in quarters.
ah, ok, liquipedia just has the wrong layout then. Ok, just wanted to make sure about it.
For foreigners I only see Ret, Dimaga and maybe Nerchio/HasuObs/Kas getting through to Ro16. I'm thinking Kas might be able to pull something off in group D.
I too anticipate a 0-5 for Idra It's a shame because I'm a fan. Maybe he'll beat Feast.
On February 18 2012 07:43 McFeser wrote: Id say group C is deceptively deadly. Its not like group A where there is a complete allstar that is going take it (cough MMA), its just that everyone in that group is a badass.
Yeah Group C is gonna be a brutal slugfest.
Surprised anyone is actually picking IdrA to 0-5.
Also, hoping that the LP bracket is incorrect and that group winners won't be playing each other in the Ro8. Hopefully they take what would be the 1, 2, 3 & 4 seeds in a regular 16 seed bracket.
Group D is definitely the group of death here. While Group A has Violet and MMA, DRG is absolutely on fire and Supernova is right on his heel. MMA is in a slump, and although Violet won Sao, DRG's performance in GSL is just sick. Group A is not far behind D though...
A: MMA, Violet and whoever plays best from the rest (JYP probably, though his PvT might let him down). B: MC, Ret, Sound/Nerchio. C: absolutely no damn clue... could be anyone (even though Gatored is by far the underdog) D: DRG, Kas and probably Supernova. Feast and Real could make it through as well.
So many epic matches already... DRG vs. Kas, Violet vs. MMA, Ret vs. the president...
Why no Stephano, Huk or Naniwa? The same reason as in IEM San Paolo, and every IEM. There are qualifications, and the players are invited to the finals according to their rating.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
you sir are correct. idra means death in zergish.
Idra is infact the weakest of the group. D is the group of death because it has 2 of the top 4 people in the tournament: DRG and Supernova. (The other two being MC and MMA.) The other participants as well are of a higher caliber in group D.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
you sir are correct. idra means death in zergish.
Idra is infact the weakest of the group. D is the group of death because it has 2 of the top 4 people in the tournament: DRG and Supernova. (The other two being MC and MMA.) The other participants as well are of a higher caliber in group D.
Indeed. Kas is currently way stronger than Idra, and going of current results, I'd put my money on Feast.
Can't name a single group wich i have no interest in watching, each one contains some top dogs as well as some names that could make it despite they shady past . Exited!
On February 18 2012 08:01 Eee wrote: Really strong lineup! Kind of dispointing that not a single swede qualified though! :/
Many of the top swedes are now playing in Korea or are staples of MLG so I think its not that big of a deal. IMO practicing/competing in Korea > IEM Its extremely difficult to compete in MLG AND IEM at the same time.
It really isn't, it's more to do with Swedes who qualified for IEM events doing badly (Naniwa out in group stages etc)
Meanwhile, in reality, Naniwa won his group and lost in the quarterfinals against Zenio.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
Of course it does that way if he loses the fanboys can blame his group as why he lost . But actually d could be a really exciting group if kas and real bring there A game you could see a really tight race to make the bracket, to me only drg will for certain move on. Also has idra and drg ever played a series?
On February 18 2012 07:43 McFeser wrote: Id say group C is deceptively deadly. Its not like group A where there is a complete allstar that is going take it (cough MMA), its just that everyone in that group is a badass.
Who knows, zergs could just six pool him and win easily . I hope MMA has learned how to defend six pools though. Taeja knows how it's done.
yoh people are underestimating group C. Thats on same level as D for me especially if you take form and recent results into the equation not just their tournament history
On February 19 2012 01:54 aoRcesc wrote: yoh people are underestimating group C. Thats on same level as D for me especially if you take form and recent results into the equation not just their tournament history
Very true, I wonder why its not voted second. Then again, every group has between 2/3 players that can win the tournament outright lol.
Will be looking forward to PuMa-Gatored in group C. Eventhough Gatored appears to be quite a weak player compared to the rest of the field his PvT blew me away when I saw it.
Having said that though he didn't quite get a good group; only 1 Terran and one that has an insanely good TvP at that.
In my opinion group A is the easiest for the koreans and to predict. The first three players advance to the ro16, in Group A this will be the 3 Koreans no doubt about that. In Group D every player can end up in the top 3.
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: GA) MMA, Violet, JYP
GB) MC, Sound, Ret (though could be Nerchio)
GC) PuMa, Dimaga, Zenio
GD) DRG, Supernova, Idra
no underdogs but I can't see these guys not advancing. (Love that people are shitting on IdrA when a few months ago he came made top 8 at Providence, and won Gongzhou which last I checked both tournaments had really good players/programmers.) So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
Idra has went 1-18 this year in competitive play, not something a top 3 foreigner does these days. Also at MLG Providence he only won a single match against PuMa I believe and placed 8th because of seeding.
I don't think IdrA will win a single game. All the Zerg and Terran are Korean or Kas, and IdrA just cannot beat any mid-tier Protoss players, they autoloss.
Omg, what a fantastic line-up of players. I just hope that the foreigners can give some decent results this time round. And I also hope that IdrA can present a good showing.
On February 19 2012 08:28 This is Aru wrote: I don't think IdrA will win a single game. All the Zerg and Terran are Korean or Kas, and IdrA just cannot beat any mid-tier Protoss players, they autoloss.
It is interesting how people quickly alternate between overrating and underrating a player. Idra has been playing pretty mediocre, but he has good fundamentals and mechanics, just poor mental strength and inability to adapt. He is definitely not going to lose every game.
On February 19 2012 08:43 NeThZOR wrote: Omg, what a fantastic line-up of players. I just hope that the foreigners can give some decent results this time round. And I also hope that IdrA can present a good showing.
I think we are all hoping this, well...except the poster right above you that is.
well idra has a chance to show if his korean training has made him better. If he does bad then I will stop saying he's a top foreigner. I know everyone says, "he dropped to code B he sucks" but you do realize all the games he played were kinda bullshit all-in games. And people are taking show matches way too seriously. Idra gets hate for the same reason incontrol does, they are fucking popular as shit and people are jealous.
On February 18 2012 07:53 Xcobidoo wrote: Group D.... O M G. Then I saw the other groups. :O:O
what? if anything D is easiest group for idra, he can beat everybody except drg, other groups have 2+ players who notoriously beat him ...
maybe he can but he will be lucky to beat anyone beside feast and real. and I'm not sure if he is favorite against these two as they both shown some nice games recently. as for real current idra capabilities we will have to wait for mlg arena . maybe he improved . maybe
On February 18 2012 07:43 McFeser wrote: Id say group C is deceptively deadly. Its not like group A where there is a complete allstar that is going take it (cough MMA), its just that everyone in that group is a badass.
I totally agree with you on that, since in Group C are so many amazing players I think it will be the one with the most exciting matches. I don't expect Idra to perform that well and think DRG will dominate group D just like MMA will do in Group A. So excited!! :D
On February 19 2012 08:28 This is Aru wrote: I don't think IdrA will win a single game. All the Zerg and Terran are Korean or Kas, and IdrA just cannot beat any mid-tier Protoss players, they autoloss.
Supernova looked pretty weak in the TvZ he played at the last IEM. He should have lost against Slivko and almost lost against Killer before losing 3-1 to violet. And his strengh has always been playing for the super late game with ghost,etc. Something that will be considerably weaker after the patch.
As for the Protoss, if you watch IdrA's stream, he actually wins considerably more games in ZvP than he loses. Including against players like Alicia and IMYonghwa.
All in all the group is pretty good for IdrA, his odds shoudn't be that bad against all the players except DRG. Which wouldn't be the case if he was for example in group A with Violet MMA JYP or group B with MC Nerchio Ret and sound...
On February 19 2012 08:28 This is Aru wrote: I don't think IdrA will win a single game. All the Zerg and Terran are Korean or Kas, and IdrA just cannot beat any mid-tier Protoss players, they autoloss.
Supernova looked pretty weak in the TvZ he played at the last IEM. He should have lost against Slivko and almost lost against Killer before losing 3-1 to violet. And his strengh has always been playing for the super late game with ghost,etc. Something that will be considerably weaker after the patch.
As for the Protoss, if you watch IdrA's stream, he actually wins considerably more games in ZvP than he loses. Including against players like Alicia and IMYonghwa.
All in all the group is pretty good for IdrA, his odds shoudn't be that bad against all the players except DRG. Which wouldn't be the case if he was for example in group A with Violet MMA JYP or group B with MC Nerchio Ret and sound...
well the reason he is not in those groups is because he was a #1 seed because he won IEM china...
I also voted for D, but not because of Idra. Kas, Supernova, DRG all sick good. MMA out of A easy. I think Zenio has a great chance to win C as well. Too bad not more Terrans for Ret.
On February 19 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote: Didn't see the format info in the liquidpedia - is the group stages bo3? The ro16 onwards are bo5 from liquidpedia so I assume so?
Yes group stage matches should be Bo3 just like last year.
great lineup etc, but is it common for tournaments to not release the schedule 3 weeks before the event? how are you supposed to plan your trip to Hanover when you neither know when it will start nor when it will end (beside the day)?
Anyway, _really_ looking forward to this! Gonna be my first time visiting an e-sports tournament and it's in my home country with many of my favourite players.
On February 18 2012 07:53 Xcobidoo wrote: Group D.... O M G. Then I saw the other groups. :O:O
what? if anything D is easiest group for idra, he can beat everybody except drg, other groups have 2+ players who notoriously beat him ...
maybe he can but he will be lucky to beat anyone beside feast and real. and I'm not sure if he is favorite against these two as they both shown some nice games recently. as for real current idra capabilities we will have to wait for mlg arena . maybe he improved . maybe
Tough luck for Idra. Supernova and Kas have pretty sick TvZs...DRG's ZvZ is quite baller from his recent results...He's just a baller in every MU. PvZ not looking the most optimistic for Idra too...
On February 18 2012 07:53 Xcobidoo wrote: Group D.... O M G. Then I saw the other groups. :O:O
what? if anything D is easiest group for idra, he can beat everybody except drg, other groups have 2+ players who notoriously beat him ...
maybe he can but he will be lucky to beat anyone beside feast and real. and I'm not sure if he is favorite against these two as they both shown some nice games recently. as for real current idra capabilities we will have to wait for mlg arena . maybe he improved . maybe
Idra beating 2 korean protosses? lol yea right.
Feast is... Belgian, last I checked? Definitely not Korean.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
yeah, Idra is definitely the player that most people in that group will be afraid of
they might beat him too hard and then get hated on.
either way supernova and drg are definitely favored over idra, although idra's zvz has looked pretty good (convincingly beat losira on stream a couple days ago among others). kas is probably going to beat idra too.
but real and feast are not favored over idra, lol. even with idra's zvp mentality, both of them have HORRIBLE pvz.
... I got 4 spare E-Tickets for Cebit (business partner invitations), you can choose the date you wanna go yourself + it is also a valid dayticket in all of Hanover's public transport on your day of visit.
If anyone wants one just pm me and give me your full name and E-Mail adress. The ticket comes as .pdf and is only valid if printed in A4 size. And also just as a tip. There are always tons of free tickets available beforehand, just google and you might find something.
On February 18 2012 07:40 Takezou wrote: A is so much harder than D. Just because D has Idra makes its the group of death?
yeah, Idra is definitely the player that most people in that group will be afraid of
they might beat him too hard and then get hated on.
either way supernova and drg are definitely favored over idra, although idra's zvz has looked pretty good (convincingly beat losira on stream a couple days ago among others). kas is probably going to beat idra too.
but real and feast are not favored over idra, lol. even with idra's zvp mentality, both of them have HORRIBLE pvz.
i think idra finishes 4th in the group
Feast could take him with sime blink stalker timings i think
Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
On February 18 2012 17:48 Catatonic wrote: GA) MMA, Violet, JYP
GB) MC, Sound, Ret (though could be Nerchio)
GC) PuMa, Dimaga, Zenio
GD) DRG, Supernova, Idra
no underdogs but I can't see these guys not advancing. (Love that people are shitting on IdrA when a few months ago he came made top 8 at Providence, and won Gongzhou which last I checked both tournaments had really good players/programmers.) So keep shitting on him guys an let your ignorance run wild cause IdrA is easily one of the top 3 foreigners in the world
hahahahahahaha. 3 months ago Idra might have been one of the top 3 foreigners in the world, but probably not. now hes not even close. hes 1-18 in tournaments and show matches this year, and it hasnt even been close
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
Ehm, how exactly is group D ahead of group A in the poll? Group D has 3 good players (DRG, Supernova and Kas). Group A has 4 great koreans and 2 decent non-koreans, both of which are better than Idra, Real and Feast.
It's very very very strange. The only thing I could think of is that people vote D because they are still under the bizarre misconception that Idra has even a tiny bit of skill, which of course he doesn't.
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
On February 22 2012 10:16 Suzido wrote: Ehm, how exactly is group D ahead of group A in the poll? Group D has 3 good players (DRG, Supernova and Kas). Group A has 4 great koreans and 2 decent non-koreans, both of which are better than Idra, Real and Feast.
It's very very very strange. The only thing I could think of is that people vote D because they are still under the bizarre misconception that Idra has even a tiny bit of skill, which of course he doesn't.
Killer is not korean so that's 3 korean. And violet is probably the only korean to be in the foreign scene (with Select), but yeah he is great. Aside from that Killer is an average zerg, JYP has been overshadowed by many younger players so only MMA can be considered very strong. Strelok has been in a slump lately as are almost every terran in europe who aren't Thorzain or Kas. And Socke while good is nowhere as shiny as ReaL or Feast. I think it covers you question.
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
He's not going.
Oh, no, come on, one of few American players I'm really interested in and he can't come? T.T
That's so unfortunate, I'd love to see him play again!
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
He's not going.
Oh, no, come on, one of few American players I'm really interested in and he can't come? T.T
That's so unfortunate, I'd love to see him play again!
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
He's not going.
Oh, no, come on, one of few American players I'm really interested in and he can't come? T.T
That's so unfortunate, I'd love to see him play again!
He's done playing seriously, went back to school.
What? I can't say I blame him for taking the smarter, stable career path, but his retirement is a huge blow to the foreigner scene. How many foreigners have beaten DRG, 3-0 TOP, and beaten Ganzi? Very few, and now there are even fewer. Just a huge loss, but I cannot blame him on his decision.
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
He's not going.
Oh, no, come on, one of few American players I'm really interested in and he can't come? T.T
That's so unfortunate, I'd love to see him play again!
He's done playing seriously, went back to school.
I thought he'd go anyway, give it a try, I mean, it could have been a fun trip.
On February 22 2012 01:23 OrD_SC2 wrote: Everyone always pities Greg - his personality keeps him "relevant" but what were his last results [seriously I'm curious]? This is esports where memories of players with very recent success like Leenock and Jjackji are already fading.
I find myself rooting for Gatored out of "nostalgia" too, lol.
Me too. Gatored has taken down so many top Koreans and really deserves much more attention.
He's not going.
Oh, no, come on, one of few American players I'm really interested in and he can't come? T.T
That's so unfortunate, I'd love to see him play again!
He's done playing seriously, went back to school.
I thought he'd go anyway, give it a try, I mean, it could have been a fun trip.
Who's gonna pay for someone who doesn't play anymore?
On February 23 2012 03:05 holydevil wrote: Does anyone know what time these events run? I can't find anything on the ESL or Liquidpedia sites about time frames on the days
Well usually it is from 10am to 6 pm local time (CET). I think that has always been the schedule for ESL events at trade shows. I guess it will be similar this time as well. And IEM are always broadcasting a rerun, I am sure they'll stick with that.
P.S.2: I still got 4 Tickets for the cebit to give away for free (the actual event, not the stream). PM with your E-Mail and Full Name will do the trick ;-)
On February 18 2012 07:43 McFeser wrote: Id say group C is deceptively deadly. Its not like group A where there is a complete allstar that is going take it (cough MMA), its just that everyone in that group is a badass.
On February 23 2012 03:05 holydevil wrote: Does anyone know what time these events run? I can't find anything on the ESL or Liquidpedia sites about time frames on the days
Well usually it is from 10am to 6 pm local time (CET). I think that has always been the schedule for ESL events at trade shows. I guess it will be similar this time as well. And IEM are always broadcasting a rerun, I am sure they'll stick with that.
P.S.2: I still got 4 Tickets for the cebit to give away for free (the actual event, not the stream). PM with your E-Mail and Full Name will do the trick ;-)
My 4 tickets are gone now!
But ESL is giving away free tickets for all international visitors.
Any info on the times the matches/tournament are taking place?. And the prices? Do you have to pay full CeBit entrance to watch the tourney or is it separate like some other events.
Im planning to go with a friend, me going from Marburg, and he from Köln. The problem is that hostels are all full and Im trying to find a place near Hannover and from 8-9pm onwards, transportation is really shitty around the area.
ps: why extend the tourney so much, 5 days for a 24 player tourney? I know people who are not going just because they dont want to travel 4-5 hours for 2 matches on friday, or 1 on saturday :/
looks like 9am to ~6pm (last game should start at 5) for the group stages on day 1 and 2: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/hanover/sc2/groupstage/results playoffs, no idea. but i agree - always hated the IEM schedules, will again for sure NOT go, just cuz its so ridiculous. sooooo many games on day 1 and 2, and since its the finals and we got some pretty amazing players here, we're probably gonna miss a lot of great games. instead we will almost see no games at all on the next 3 days
prices: not announced yet afaik
quite sure that ull have to pay full cebit entrance, but at least this info might be somewhere on the iem page^^
ps: mana (sadly) isnt German @ http://www.teamliquid.net/iem/ pps: 'tournament system' desciption on the official iem page isnt correct for sc2.
On February 23 2012 00:41 ROFLOLLER wrote: There are 0 groups of death. This will be top 3 of each group. Big skill gaps at this event.
Group A: viOLet MMA JYP -easy for them
Group B MC Nerchio HasuObs -Sound played really bad at HSC4 and i dont know how i got so far.
Group C PuMa DIMAGA MaNa -FD and Zenio are inconsistent but can take 2/3 spot also. Hardest group to predict.
Group D DongRaeGu SuperNoVa Kas\Real -nc
And MC will take whole tournament. Dongraegu/MMA will take 2nd/3rd place.
You dont't even mention Ret in your group B prediction, and he is a world class player. I think he should definitely be favored to come out of his group over HasuObs, and Nerchio is fairly unproven in LANs compared to Ret's results.
On February 29 2012 16:08 havox_ wrote: looks like 9am to ~6pm (last game should start at 5) for the group stages on day 1 and 2: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/hanover/sc2/groupstage/results playoffs, no idea. but i agree - always hated the IEM schedules, will again for sure NOT go, just cuz its so ridiculous. sooooo many games on day 1 and 2, and since its the finals and we got some pretty amazing players here, we're probably gonna miss a lot of great games. instead we will almost see no games at all on the next 3 days
prices: not announced yet afaik
quite sure that ull have to pay full cebit entrance, but at least this info might be somewhere on the iem page^^
ps: mana (sadly) isnt German @ http://www.teamliquid.net/iem/ pps: 'tournament system' desciption on the official iem page isnt correct for sc2.
The problem with IEM is that their events are often at conventions, such as now at CEBIT. This means that the games are all during the day (EU time) on workdays, which makes it hard for working Europeans to watch. For Americans the games will start in the night and end halfway through the workday, which is even less practical.
On February 23 2012 03:05 holydevil wrote: Does anyone know what time these events run? I can't find anything on the ESL or Liquidpedia sites about time frames on the days
since they have to run it during cebit opening hours, I guess they will start at 10 or 11 in the morning (cet) and finish when the halls get closed (maybe 8 pm). when you live on the east coast it should start 4 or 5 in the morning and on the west coast it will be 1 or 2 at night.
On February 29 2012 20:52 Rannasha wrote: The problem with IEM is that their events are often at conventions, such as now at CEBIT. This means that the games are all during the day (EU time) on workdays, which makes it hard for working Europeans to watch. For Americans the games will start in the night and end halfway through the workday, which is even less practical.
but teh finals will be on the weekend, so no problemo for students and most working people
while the koreans will dominate in groups A, C and D, i think, that group B is the group of death because all of these players are at about the same level and anyone could advance.
On February 23 2012 00:41 ROFLOLLER wrote: There are 0 groups of death. This will be top 3 of each group. Big skill gaps at this event.
Group A: viOLet MMA JYP -easy for them
Group B MC Nerchio HasuObs -Sound played really bad at HSC4 and i dont know how i got so far.
Group C PuMa DIMAGA MaNa -FD and Zenio are inconsistent but can take 2/3 spot also. Hardest group to predict.
Group D DongRaeGu SuperNoVa Kas\Real -nc
And MC will take whole tournament. Dongraegu/MMA will take 2nd/3rd place.
You dont't even mention Ret in your group B prediction, and he is a world class player. I think he should definitely be favored to come out of his group over HasuObs, and Nerchio is fairly unproven in LANs compared to Ret's results.
Nerchio is unproven wtf? I keep seeing this all the time. Last lan Nerchio attended was HSC 4 where he did very well. Won his group and beat hero etc.. This unproven might have been true 5 months ago but surdenly not anymore
Just watch him i woulnt be supriced if he took 2nd in this group
This will be a great tourney , i think that Foreigners have a good chance in this one , it has a few Koreans but if DRG and MMA lose early (groups) its possible ! Otherwise its going to be another foreigner tourney with the top all korean.
On February 23 2012 00:41 ROFLOLLER wrote: There are 0 groups of death. This will be top 3 of each group. Big skill gaps at this event.
Group A: viOLet MMA JYP -easy for them
Group B MC Nerchio HasuObs -Sound played really bad at HSC4 and i dont know how i got so far.
Group C PuMa DIMAGA MaNa -FD and Zenio are inconsistent but can take 2/3 spot also. Hardest group to predict.
Group D DongRaeGu SuperNoVa Kas\Real -nc
And MC will take whole tournament. Dongraegu/MMA will take 2nd/3rd place.
You dont't even mention Ret in your group B prediction, and he is a world class player. I think he should definitely be favored to come out of his group over HasuObs, and Nerchio is fairly unproven in LANs compared to Ret's results.
Nerchio is unproven wtf? I keep seeing this all the time. Last lan Nerchio attended was HSC 4 where he did very well. Won his group and beat hero etc.. This unproven might have been true 5 months ago but surdenly not anymore
Just watch him i woulnt be supriced if he took 2nd in this group
I would say that one decent showing at HSC IV definitely doesn't suddenly make him more proven in LAN environments than people like Ret who consistently place very highly in tournaments. Nerchio is still not on his level in terms of results in major tournaments, and I would definitely place him as an underdog in a group that includes two people who placed more highly than him in his only successful tournament.
Hey Just a question. Do they use gold bases on those maps? And is the Antiga cross position only?
I always feel like it is super hard for a toss player to win IEM and I hope they can change the map pool a bit and make it fair for toss. This time toss has Mc so there is hope but if they use gold bases maps, then it will be extremely hard for Mc to make it happen with MMA and DRG in this tournament.
Once again the group with Idra in it gets the most votes even though it is clearly not the group of death. Idra didn't get the short end of the stick. He wouldn't have made it out of any of them.
Korean players DongRaeGu and FruitDealer had to cancel their participation in the World Championship and will be replaced by DarK.FoRcE and SeleCT.
Looks like Group D just got lost its favorit... But DarKFoRcE will hopefully be a great replacement =) And FruitDealer... well, kinda sad that he might not see him back, but SeleCT might be in better shape anyways.
Korean players DongRaeGu and FruitDealer had to cancel their participation in the World Championship and will be replaced by DarK.FoRcE and SeleCT.
Looks like Group D just got lost its favorit... But DarKFoRcE will hopefully be a great replacement =) And FruitDealer... well, kinda sad that he might not see him back, but SeleCT might be in better shape anyways.
GL to the last minute additions
Sigh.......... tournament just lost a large chunk of appeal in one bite. No offense to the replacements but they're nowhere near the same calibre.
Korean players DongRaeGu and FruitDealer had to cancel their participation in the World Championship and will be replaced by DarK.FoRcE and SeleCT.
Looks like Group D just got lost its favorit... But DarKFoRcE will hopefully be a great replacement =) And FruitDealer... well, kinda sad that he might not see him back, but SeleCT might be in better shape anyways.
GL to the last minute additions
Sigh.......... tournament just lost a large chunk of appeal in one bite. No offense to the replacements but they're nowhere near the same calibre.
How is Select nowhere near the caliber of Fruitdealer... and Darkforce isn't that bad either, he often gets some upsetting resuluts vs Koreans (alive, MKP, Ace).
Korean players DongRaeGu and FruitDealer had to cancel their participation in the World Championship and will be replaced by DarK.FoRcE and SeleCT.
Looks like Group D just got lost its favorit... But DarKFoRcE will hopefully be a great replacement =) And FruitDealer... well, kinda sad that he might not see him back, but SeleCT might be in better shape anyways.
GL to the last minute additions
Sigh.......... tournament just lost a large chunk of appeal in one bite. No offense to the replacements but they're nowhere near the same calibre.
How is Select nowhere near the caliber of Fruitdealer... and Darkforce isn't that bad either, he often gets some upsetting resuluts vs Koreans (alive, MKP, Ace).
No one is really talking about Fruitdealer, we are talking about DRG. Still, I would have liked to have seen Fruitdealer play again, but he's probably playing LoL or partying.
Korean players DongRaeGu and FruitDealer had to cancel their participation in the World Championship and will be replaced by DarK.FoRcE and SeleCT.
Looks like Group D just got lost its favorit... But DarKFoRcE will hopefully be a great replacement =) And FruitDealer... well, kinda sad that he might not see him back, but SeleCT might be in better shape anyways.
GL to the last minute additions
Sigh.......... tournament just lost a large chunk of appeal in one bite. No offense to the replacements but they're nowhere near the same calibre.
while I agree that none of them is as good as DRG on the other hand I believe SeleCT is even better than FruitDealer, who is playing LoL anyway ... and DF can surprise like many times before
On March 03 2012 01:14 Titorelli wrote: Hm thats shitty. Any info on why DRG cancelled?
According to a conversation I had with the MVP head-coach, he might want him around for GSTL.
THIS IS SLIGHTLY WRONG! - DRG wants to play GSTL for his team as it's very important to him. I did NOT want to imply that he was being held back by MVP head-coach!
Darn no DRG , really make IEM WC's appeal fall a lot, especially given DRG's current form. Guess MVP really wants to win the GSTL to participate in IPL!
On March 03 2012 01:14 Titorelli wrote: Hm thats shitty. Any info on why DRG cancelled?
According to a conversation I had with the MVP head-coach, he might want him around for GSTL.
MVP plays OGS March 9th, so that is indeed the reason. With a vegas spot on the line teams can't really afford to be missing their ace during this part of the tournament. Sucks he can't make it though.
nice that DF is in there now and gatored is also replaced
actually makes this tournament more interesting for me because we don't have a "who can beat DRG" tournament but one that there is no really clear favorite for
I find group D to be the easiest. Maybe DRG was in the initial post, that's the only reason I can see to explain why it is the highest in the group of death vote.
What I posted about DRG earlier was slightly wrong. DRG as the captain of MVP WANTS to represent and lead his team in GSTL! I did not mean to imply that he was being held back from IEM by the Coach.
Thank you for reading and I apologize for conveying the wrong message!
On March 03 2012 04:27 mouzKaelaris wrote: This is important!
What I posted about DRG earlier was slightly wrong. DRG as the captain of MVP WANTS to represent his team in GSTL! I did not mean to imply that he was being held back from IEM by the Coach.
Thank you for reading and I apologize for conveying the wrong message!
Anyone know which casters are going to be there? Rotterdam and Mr.Bitter I guess, anyone else? Pretty excited, this is going to be my first live tournament
On March 03 2012 04:45 ACrow wrote: Anyone know which casters are going to be there? Rotterdam and Mr.Bitter I guess, anyone else? Pretty excited, this is going to be my first live tournament
On March 03 2012 04:45 ACrow wrote: Anyone know which casters are going to be there? Rotterdam and Mr.Bitter I guess, anyone else? Pretty excited, this is going to be my first live tournament
IdrA's group isn't easy but it isn't hard, either. The only player that outclasses him is SuperNova - nobody else is a favorite against a player training like him.
This is really IdrA's group to lose - if he goes out 1-4 or 0-5 then I don't even know what he's doing in Korea.
On March 04 2012 08:17 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's group isn't easy but it isn't hard, either. The only player that outclasses him is SuperNova - every one else is beatable and for a player training like him they shouldn't be favorites.
This is really IdrA's group to lose - if he goes out 1-4 or 0-5 then I don't even know what he's doing in Korea.
Kas is an absolute beast, he's probably better than IdrA.
On March 04 2012 08:17 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's group isn't easy but it isn't hard, either. The only player that outclasses him is SuperNova - every one else is beatable and for a player training like him they shouldn't be favorites.
This is really IdrA's group to lose - if he goes out 1-4 or 0-5 then I don't even know what he's doing in Korea.
Kas is an absolute beast, he's probably better than IdrA.
Yea Kas defiantly got the upperhand vs Idra atm last 2 times they meet Idra have lost to Kas. I think last time was in WCG
But that was before IdrA went to Korea and started training with the Slayers team. We'll see I guess, IdrA has been disappointing as of late, but he has the conditions for getting out of his group unlike in MLG where he had to play against Oz and then Nestea.
On March 04 2012 08:17 Azarkon wrote: IdrA's group isn't easy but it isn't hard, either. The only player that outclasses him is SuperNova - nobody else is a favorite against a player training like him.
This is really IdrA's group to lose - if he goes out 1-4 or 0-5 then I don't even know what he's doing in Korea.
On paper Idra is supposed to be very solid, having years of strong BW and SC2 mechanics and experience, and now training with the Slayers team. Recently though, he plays as if perpetually on tilt, and has shown really poor performances.
I think Kas is currently a stronger player than Idra though. I agree that Idra should be favored against the remainder of his group. I predict that Idra won't get first, but I think he is going to at least survive the groups.
people are forgetting that IdrA's latest opponents were top Korean players ... NesTea, Oz, aLive, TaeJa this is IEM and whole different story, at Assembly Kas didnt manage to pass the groupstage and at IEM Kiev he lost to DIMAGA ... SuperNova will be the favorite but dont forget that IdrA was practicing for few monts with SlayerS
On March 04 2012 15:42 onedayclose wrote: how long til they announce the stream schedule?!?!?!? is it going to be like last year where they only do one or two groups a day?
guess who won't have internet access until thursday...but at least I will be able to watch the final rounds of the event. I'm really looking forward to the next weekend!
On March 05 2012 02:57 Darpa wrote: Why do they always have their tournaments in the middle of the week??? seems like they are cutting tons of viewers just because people have to work.
IntelExtremeMasters @IntelEM Schließen Sadly @LiquidRet will not come to CeBIT due to sickness - Get well son! - His replacement will be @WhiteRaSC - The show starts Tuesday #IEM
Dutch player ret, who qualified in Sao Paulo, is sick and will not travel to the World Championship. Ukrainian White-Ra will replace him in Group B. On Saturday the Dutch Zerg player wrote on Twitter that he is "super sick and can't sleep". After no improvement during the night he cancelled his participation in the World Championship today.
Due to the limited time-frame the next four players who were eligible, according to the Season Ranking, were not able to come. These are Koreans RevivaL and TOP, Canadian TT1 and Swedens NaNiwa. White-Ra, who shares the 33rd place with NaNiwa and Pomi agreed to take rets place in the tournament. Russian Pomi was not an option due to the visa he would be needing to enter Germany. The Ukranian will now face the No.1 of the ranking, MC.
Group B: MC, elfittaja, Sound, HasuObs, Nerchio, White-Ra
On March 05 2012 04:27 farside604 wrote: Just wondering, have there been so many replacements. Is it just that all these players decided to drop out of the tournament?
I think it is because the qufalification process continiues during the whole season. For Tournaments like Assembly or Dreamhack, everyone is invited or qualified directly. IEM on the other hand, invites where the players, who made the most points in 5 events. It will be difficult to replace Ret, because the guys, who are next in line are mostly located in Korea, America or Russia and they have less than 72 hours to arrive. Maybe Grubby can make it in time.
Dutch player ret, who qualified in Sao Paulo, is sick and will not travel to the World Championship. Ukrainian White-Ra will replace him in Group B. On Saturday the Dutch Zerg player wrote on Twitter that he is "super sick and can't sleep". After no improvement during the night he cancelled his participation in the World Championship today.
Due to the limited time-frame the next four players who were eligible, according to the Season Ranking, were not able to come. These are Koreans RevivaL and TOP, Canadian TT1 and Swedens NaNiwa. White-Ra, who shares the 33rd place with NaNiwa and Pomi agreed to take rets place in the tournament. Russian Pomi was not an option due to the visa he would be needing to enter Germany. The Ukranian will now face the No.1 of the ranking, MC.
Group B: MC, elfittaja, Sound, HasuObs, Nerchio, White-Ra
sux cus im going to be in germany the same time iem w.c is happening : D, scheduled my flight for the 8th tho tt
On March 04 2012 05:16 mordk wrote: So why did people vote group D as group of death? Only because Idra is in it? Fanboys have a lot of power apparently.
With or without DRG in it, the group is easy to predict. With DRG in it, it was DRG + Supernova/Kas, without him in it, it's Supernova + Kas
Idra's probably going to go 1-4 or 0-5, judging by his latest results.
Could be because DRG, Supernova,Kas, and IdrA are all extreamly good an only group with 4 powerhouses like that. Now with all the drops its Group C thats the hardest but had DRG not dropped out it would've been group D hands down. So stop with the anti fan boyism an call these things down the middle.
thats rly weird oO he just yesterday (or was it 2 days ago) said on his own stream in english he will go to germany, do a "special tactics" or whatever show there.
No no, White-ra is attending the Event, he is leaving on the 9th of march however so people like me who will only go on saturday are gonna miss him unfortunately
his exact words: "I need fly 9th in USA play IGN show match"
Theres a schedule for the things hes doing at Cebit:
On March 05 2012 11:07 7mk wrote: No no, White-ra is attending the Event, he is leaving on the 9th of march however so people like me who will only go on saturday are gonna miss him unfortunately
his exact words: "I need fly 9th in USA play IGN show match"
Theres a schedule for the things hes doing at Cebit:
On March 05 2012 11:07 7mk wrote: No no, White-ra is attending the Event, he is leaving on the 9th of march however so people like me who will only go on saturday are gonna miss him unfortunately
his exact words: "I need fly 9th in USA play IGN show match"
Theres a schedule for the things hes doing at Cebit:
group D? lol why the hell is that the highest? I mean supernova I KINDA understand but seriously, MMA Violet JYP? all three races, all Koreans? I be more afraid of MC alone that group D...
On March 07 2012 01:24 max1c wrote: PvP was is and always will (probably until add on) the most retarded match up...
untill add on you mean HOTS? i cant see that having any effect on PvP, unless they take out WG mechanic but thats redesigning the whole race, i think they'd save that for toss one.
On March 07 2012 01:20 RoyAlex wrote: Three Koreans walks into the group, three Koreans walks out the group. Group A lol.. <_< Foreigners fighting!...-.-
Hahah! So funny! This could be the beginning of "x Koreans walk into a group" jokes ^_^
EPT
IEM Season VI - World Championship:
viOLet
MMA
JYP
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It's a shame because I'm a fan. Maybe he'll beat Feast.
MMA
viOlet
JYP
Should be amazing! Best of luck to all, protoss fighting !
