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On February 15 2012 13:00 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 12:39 Doodsmack wrote:On February 15 2012 11:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 10:28 DoomsVille wrote:On February 15 2012 10:11 VirgilSC2 wrote:
MLG: We're losing money on this deal, and trying to make some of it back.
>Flies casters in from Korea instead of using casters based in America Don't be an idiot. We both know the gained viewers from featuring tastosis more than makes up for the expenses to bring them over. Not having them literally guarantees no one will watch. Not everybody is crazy about Tastosis. I personally don't think they're the best of the best out there. I tend to prefer casters who keep a closer eye on the player scene they represent (i.e. Korea) and while I understand they're both busy individuals with lives outside of casting, I find it very unappealing that half the time they aren't even up to date/correct on happenings within the GSL. Way to respond by saying something that was completely irrelevant to his point lol. Your personal preference is irrelevant to the question of whether it was financially wise to fly Tastosis in. His point was that the viewers drawn by bringing Tastosis in justifies the cost. I responded with the fact that not EVERYONE considers them the best casters around. I then listed why I personally don't There are also plenty of casters in the States that could draw just as many, if not more, viewers.
i really have to disagree with you on this point.. from what i can tell they are by far the most well known and loved casters on the scene.. the only argument otherwise could mayby be day9 but that would be the only possible argument i could think of as to who would bring in the most viewers.
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So many good terrans... Korean terrans to be specific. I suppose that's why I'm forking over 20$ this weekend.
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On February 15 2012 12:39 Phemtos wrote:
Day9 was probably asking to be paid a ridiculous amount of money just like at the last Dreamhack. I think it was around like 20k+ rofl.
Where did you get that number from?
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Should be a really sick tournament, just dissapointed day9 won't be there to cast it 
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MLG and no Day9 does not compute.
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For all those questioning the choice to bring on Rob Simpson, stop. He's awesome. Sad to be without Day9. Curious to know what the reason behind this was since he has done pretty much every MLG event that he could attend.
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I am curious to see more of Pomi, as he did do pretty well at IEM Kiev, losing to eventual finalist Dimaga but not before making a close 2-3 series.
Glad to see Ddoro qualify, as he is a very underrated player who gets very little attention despite making it to pool play at MLG Orlando.
I am a bit surprised that Drewbie was first in the NA Qualifiers. I will admit that I did not think that Drewbie was that strong of a player compared to the rest of the NA pack, but hopefully he can change my mind and really give a showing.
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The reason he got so much is because he hosted the tournament on his own stream.
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20k is quite a bit of money. However, I'm inclined to believe that not all of that is up front cash (flight, accomodations, etc.) Regardless, that's beside the point.
Day9, I think, deserves the privilege of choosing his terms. The amount of time he has invested into SC2, helping players across the spectrum, and simply LOVING the game (quite contagious) is amazing. I'm fairly certain this is his only passion and profession. If Nigahiga, one of the most prominent members of the Youtube community, can generate over a million dollars in revennue from videos ALONE, then why shouldn't Day9 be rewarded for his contributions.
Certainly, I hope Day9 won't have to put money before the game. But that shouldn't stop him from trying to maximize his opportunities.
On a side note, I still don't think these numbers should just be floated around. Sure, it doesn't "hurt" anyone. But if I were organizing these tournaments, I'd still want these numbers fairly ambiguous so negotiations can be better.
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On February 15 2012 13:38 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 13:04 TheDougler wrote:On February 15 2012 08:21 Xxio wrote:On February 15 2012 08:19 potsndots152 wrote:
Rob simpson? He was great at Sao Paulo Was that the guy at the one MLG? The "your mothership so fat WE COULDN'T FIT IT INTO THE EXPANSION" guy? I fuckin loved that dude! Does anyone remember what match at MLG he casted and then said that joke? or link to the vods. My brain can't remember at all!
Ret vs HerO MLG Providence
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Top 16 in this event will be Providence top 8 (minus Haypro and Huk) + Korean qualifiees (minus San) + Thorzain, Grubby and Violet. If the bracket permits.
I'll still watch Stephano take Assembly for free rather than pay $20 to watch the sub-GSL.
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Looks like everyone will be watching assembly then.
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I live in new york, can I go to this thing live?
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the player list alone makes it hard to not spend 20$, but with tasteosis I may just have too
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On February 15 2012 14:28 xXFireandIceXx wrote:20k is quite a bit of money. However, I'm inclined to believe that not all of that is up front cash (flight, accomodations, etc.) Regardless, that's beside the point. Day9, I think, deserves the privilege of choosing his terms. The amount of time he has invested into SC2, helping players across the spectrum, and simply LOVING the game (quite contagious) is amazing. I'm fairly certain this is his only passion and profession. If Nigahiga, one of the most prominent members of the Youtube community, can generate over a million dollars in revennue from videos ALONE, then why shouldn't Day9 be rewarded for his contributions. Certainly, I hope Day9 won't have to put money before the game. But that shouldn't stop him from trying to maximize his opportunities. On a side note, I still don't think these numbers should just be floated around. Sure, it doesn't "hurt" anyone. But if I were organizing these tournaments, I'd still want these numbers fairly ambiguous so negotiations can be better.
Nobody denies that Day9 etc have done a great job for SC2 and deserve it financially.
The big thing is that theres just a HUGE income difference between the casters and the players. Day9 or Tastosis get every tourney they cast more money than 98% of the players. Normally in sports the players are the superstars, not the casters. Im just not ok with the ralation between "income casters" vs "income players". So far it was the tournaments organizers thing to balance their finances. And for them its much more easy/cheap to hype a few casters and pay them well, than putting the focus on the players.
I always noticed that in Starcraft there is like 0 focus on the players. Exept for Homestory cup, thats why it so succesful. EVERY break they interviewed some players etc, and NOT always the same boring 3 questions.
Now, when we have to PAY to watch tournaments, WE can decide whos getting the money. Do i pay for Tastosis etc. or the players? 20 dollars per viewer and a prizepool of 26k for ALL the players. rofl
Sorry not going to support this lame thing. If i knew out of this 20 dollars, 10 dollars go straight into the pockets of the players, i'd gladly pay this amount. Unfortunately the business likes the casters/environment (NY, rofl) more than the players.
No money from me.
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On February 15 2012 14:56 losefastTV wrote:
I live in new york, can I go to this thing live?
No, there's no audience component for the Arenas. Just the Championship Series. The best we can do is go to a BarCraft at Legends.
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Looks like I'm gonna be watching the Asus thing as well as the results on LP for this since it now costs money
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This is the same old events, nothing new, they need to get some new blood
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anyone else notice 1/2 of NA qualified are ex-ROOT?
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