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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
Xiandelle
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada117 Posts
February 14 2012 04:54 GMT
#1641
I'm not at all concerned with paying for it. Especially considering I'll be hosting a BarCraft for it. I don't mind paying a bit extra for awesome content and the privilege to view it live with 200+ other sc2 fans in the local scene.

There's no way they can hope to continue to grow and produce good stuff if they don't ask for money to see it live. You will have the option of viewing for free a week after the fact... but who wants that?
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
February 14 2012 04:54 GMT
#1642
On February 14 2012 13:40 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 13:38 csn_JohnClark wrote:
I get all of the fuss about the ppv and it being on the same day as other events..but.. the funniest thing I noticed from the post was not even related to that..but the following quote:

Our goal at MLG will always be to give aspiring gamers a platform to compete, while broadcasting that competition to spectators and fans.


I'll wait to see if any replies start asking why this is 'funny' before I go off on it. Happy hunting all!

Is it because of the nonexistent crowd thats gonna be at Winter Arena, so no spectators?


Ha.. oddly enough.. I missed that part. So ya.. that too Its the first sentence about their goal 'always' being to give aspiring gamers a platform. The only thing MLG has close to that is Gamebattles and that's just meaningless ladders where if you are 1st place you get to call yourself a 'Pro'. MLG events are specifically set up to make sure that the top 'view getters' will always be there. There is nothing aspiring about their format.
Still Naked!
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
February 14 2012 04:55 GMT
#1643
It's almost like Sundance is saying :

1) We cannot run MLG properly so we need to charge $20 for one event and stop free streams even though no other tournament does this.

2) We are greedy human beings by nature. What did you expect.

Talk about being in lalala land.

Sc2 community is exactly that, a community, so when we get ripped off, dont expect us to line up, we are not stupid.
*burp*
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
February 14 2012 04:55 GMT
#1644
On February 14 2012 13:52 dnld12 wrote:
As has always been the case, our live Championship Events will continue to have a free standard-quality broadcast.

This is good

That has nothing to do with the 7(?) arena events that they're planning.
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
February 14 2012 04:56 GMT
#1645
On February 14 2012 13:54 Xiandelle wrote:
I'm not at all concerned with paying for it. Especially considering I'll be hosting a BarCraft for it. I don't mind paying a bit extra for awesome content and the privilege to view it live with 200+ other sc2 fans in the local scene.

There's no way they can hope to continue to grow and produce good stuff if they don't ask for money to see it live. You will have the option of viewing for free a week after the fact... but who wants that?


You may want to confirm that you are allowed to stream it to a crowd... in most cases of ppv.. public establishments must pay a higher fee to stream the event to the public.

Opps.. I hope I did not remind MLG of that option. Sorry bro.
Still Naked!
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
February 14 2012 04:56 GMT
#1646
Guess I'm not watching this tournament anymore.
Swampsteel
Profile Joined April 2011
United States94 Posts
February 14 2012 04:56 GMT
#1647
I would have liked them to announce this before the qualifiers and all the hype train for MLG Winter Arena. Think it would have gone over better and not SEEM, I say seem, as a bit dirty.

Also, if you have checked out the overlay preview and interface, you can load quad streams and more, but a big problem was that this would lag every stream on the screen. Does anyone know if this will be the same, or is this a localized problem and I'm being internet-stupid.
Oh my glob!
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
February 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#1648
On February 14 2012 13:47 Stiver wrote:
I don't get people on the internet who feel so entitled to get everything for free.

I've supported GSL this year (after dropping the last few seasons last year), and it's been the best games since release.
If MLG can increase even greater quality than they have alread for a few more bucks, it is worth the money.

Suck it up, and help actually support the game.


You must not have read a single opinion here. Plenty of people who support GSL are entirely against paying $20 for a 3 day event. The Value is not worth the cost to them. Add to another free event taking place the same weekend and the VOD's for MLG being available a week after for free and you basically have no reason to pay UNLESS you really need to see the matches LIVE.

Don't make the mistake of saying that you are supporting the game by supporting MLG. MLG could give two shits about SC2 if it didn't bring the viewers it did.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Sweeper8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States25 Posts
February 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#1649
The way I see it; I play/watch Starcraft to relax. I've already payed $60 (and it's been well worth it) but I don't want to pay more. So, I'm certainly not going to spend $20 to watch other people play it when I can do that every day for free watching streams.
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
February 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#1650
It makes sense for MLG to do this. Not saying I agree with it or not, but as a business you want to monetize your products and your end goal is to make a profit. More power to them.

Personally I will not be purchasing a ticket.
NrG.Kvz
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
February 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#1651
On February 14 2012 13:56 csn_JohnClark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 13:54 Xiandelle wrote:
I'm not at all concerned with paying for it. Especially considering I'll be hosting a BarCraft for it. I don't mind paying a bit extra for awesome content and the privilege to view it live with 200+ other sc2 fans in the local scene.

There's no way they can hope to continue to grow and produce good stuff if they don't ask for money to see it live. You will have the option of viewing for free a week after the fact... but who wants that?


You may want to confirm that you are allowed to stream it to a crowd... in most cases of ppv.. public establishments must pay a higher fee to stream the event to the public.

Opps.. I hope I did not remind MLG of that option. Sorry bro.



LOL, so true...MLG come get some more money..how they regulate that though (or find out), who knows.
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 14 2012 05:00 GMT
#1652
On February 14 2012 13:55 Parcelleus wrote:
It's almost like Sundance is saying :

1) We cannot run MLG properly so we need to charge $20 for one event and stop free streams even though no other tournament does this.

2) We are greedy human beings by nature. What did you expect.

Talk about being in lalala land.

Sc2 community is exactly that, a community, so when we get ripped off, dont expect us to line up, we are not stupid.


Go big or go home! People Want 5 streams! People Need HD! The folks will Love seeing 6 casters!

And nobody wants to HURT ESPORTS

+ Show Spoiler +
i don't know about you, but I'd tune in for free even if it was an online, low quality stream with 2 casters. $20? Sorry, I'll see Assembly instead. Or is supporting a European organization hurting esports now too?
"See you space cowboy"
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 14 2012 05:01 GMT
#1653
On February 14 2012 13:55 GARO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 13:52 dnld12 wrote:
As has always been the case, our live Championship Events will continue to have a free standard-quality broadcast.

This is good

That has nothing to do with the 7(?) arena events that they're planning.

7 arena events and they are going to charge 20 bucks for each event? Interesting.
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ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
February 14 2012 05:02 GMT
#1654
bad that it is up vs a diffrent main event but MLG streams arwas really good so if i was not poor i would pay right now its worth it to all VODs too dang bro... sounds nice
SC > halo
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 05:03:00
February 14 2012 05:02 GMT
#1655
$20 is nothing. We have more than a week to save up, even a teenager would be able to pay for it. In my case, all I have to do is not eat out for two days to pay for this...
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 14 2012 05:02 GMT
#1656
$20 seems like s poor value proposition in comparison to similarly priced GSL for a few reasons.

1. length, one weekend vs almost 2 months

2. As I've said before I don't like seeing adults beat on children. Meaning there is massive blowouts whenever Koreans are teamed with foreigners. Not competitive. Similarly I don't like watching children fight. Foreigner vs foreigner.

3. The GSL offers the tippy top vs the tippy top, no exceptions. While MLG only offers a couple tippy top players so you can take nothing substantive away from it.
MC for president
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 14 2012 05:03 GMT
#1657
This will be interesting to see how it pans out after all is said and done.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 14 2012 05:04 GMT
#1658
On February 14 2012 14:02 tdt wrote:
$20 seems like s poor value proposition in comparison to similarly priced GSL for a few reasons.

1. length, one weekend vs almost 2 months

2. As I've said before I don't like seeing adults beat on children. Meaning there is massive blowouts whenever Koreans are teamed with foreigners. Not competitive. Similarly I don't like watching children fight. Foreigner vs foreigner.

3. The GSL offers the tippy top vs the tippy top, no exceptions. While MLG only offers a couple tippy top players so you can take nothing substantive away from it.


I'll also add that the MLG weekend tournament format allows for little to no preparation so we will see worse games for sure compared to Code S.
Rockafella
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom291 Posts
February 14 2012 05:04 GMT
#1659
MLG for one weekend or GSL for a month?.. Not really a decision for most is it, really.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26794 Posts
February 14 2012 05:06 GMT
#1660
On February 14 2012 14:04 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 14:02 tdt wrote:
$20 seems like s poor value proposition in comparison to similarly priced GSL for a few reasons.

1. length, one weekend vs almost 2 months

2. As I've said before I don't like seeing adults beat on children. Meaning there is massive blowouts whenever Koreans are teamed with foreigners. Not competitive. Similarly I don't like watching children fight. Foreigner vs foreigner.

3. The GSL offers the tippy top vs the tippy top, no exceptions. While MLG only offers a couple tippy top players so you can take nothing substantive away from it.


I'll also add that the MLG weekend tournament format allows for little to no preparation so we will see worse games for sure compared to Code S.

I think it also lets latent skill shine through and sees less weird snipey builds on the other side of the coin. Pluses and minuses to each of the formats for sure.
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