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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
February 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#2781
On February 15 2012 03:56 Snerren wrote:
I was totally ok with this until I realized there was no free stream. I mean wtf? 20 bucks or nothing? Is that really fair? I don't think it is. So for me personally I won't pay for this.


It's perfectly fair.

Whether it's worth it is another question. This shouldn't be about entitlement.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
February 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#2782
i guess PPV makes sense for an event with no live audience, but they should've announced this as soon as they announced the event.
TheMexican
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany96 Posts
February 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#2783
guess its already been said a hundred times, but to let them see what most of us are unhappy about: I would never ever pay for this for 2 reasons.

1. too expensive in comparison to the other great series like ipl or iem. how come they can make it work? and don't argue with the paying flight thing, or hotelcosts, players will come even if u don't pay for them if the prize is big enough. We do not need another gsl in america so don't invite that many koreans if the won't afford it.

2. the downtimes during mlgs are still unbearable. If i pay for sports for example i know that for that evening i will have nonstop content and entertainment. mlg has huuuuuuge breaks after the games, almost making me stop watchin when it was for free. it is just not suited for evening entertainment if u're alone and wanna watch from the couch or sth.

despite that, any interesting opinions that have been posted by mlg officials or other people with a name in e-sports? don't want to go through 130 pages :/
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
February 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#2784
=/ As a big fan of MLG who has purchased membership with them before I am saddened by this turn of events. I remember paying a few dollars to watch content for 3 months. Now its $20 for 2 days of content with no low quality stream. Very disappointing indeed.

I will state my opinion firmly with my wallet and not purchase the next event. Hopefully they will change their minds and atleast provide a LQ stream for people who can't spend $20 every month to watch their arenas.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#2785
On February 15 2012 03:58 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 03:55 Coal wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:54 Gheed wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:52 JohnSmithy631 wrote:
I have a solution. I will pay 20$. FOR ALL OF YOU. I will purchase MLG and stream it for all of you :D
I'll post my stream on MLG weekend.

John


This is yet another reason why 20 dollars for a weekend of streams is a bad idea.


Re-streams aren't really allowed are they ?:D Would be kinda cool though....


It would be kinda fun to see

MajorLeagueGaming - 2500 viewers

JohnSmithy631 - 33000 viewers


That is so optimistic man. Sooo optimistic.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Leargle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States173 Posts
February 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#2786
It costs the same amount to attend a live event as it does to get HD pass...... Hmmmmmmm
Maphack supply depot overlord
archangel967
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada111 Posts
February 14 2012 19:00 GMT
#2787
As a gold membership subscriber at least give me something. Send me an email offering a higher level of subscription or something. Or a discount.

I'm sure this has been posted a bunch of times before but as a consumer I feel alienated by this announcement and I'll be more hesitant to invest in MLG in the future. MLG puts out a great product though so we'll see.
When you're ahead, get further ahead.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 14 2012 19:01 GMT
#2788
On February 15 2012 03:58 JohnSmithy631 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 03:55 Coal wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:54 Gheed wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:52 JohnSmithy631 wrote:
I have a solution. I will pay 20$. FOR ALL OF YOU. I will purchase MLG and stream it for all of you :D
I'll post my stream on MLG weekend.

John


This is yet another reason why 20 dollars for a weekend of streams is a bad idea.


Re-streams aren't really allowed are they ?:D Would be kinda cool though....


I will not be running ads or even accepting donations. This will be out of the kindness of my own heart.


I will be very sure to report you to whatever stream you are using for copyright violation as soon as I see it go up. Out of the kindness of my own heart for all the staff at MLG.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
February 14 2012 19:01 GMT
#2789
On February 15 2012 03:58 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 03:55 Coal wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:54 Gheed wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:52 JohnSmithy631 wrote:
I have a solution. I will pay 20$. FOR ALL OF YOU. I will purchase MLG and stream it for all of you :D
I'll post my stream on MLG weekend.

John


This is yet another reason why 20 dollars for a weekend of streams is a bad idea.


Re-streams aren't really allowed are they ?:D Would be kinda cool though....


It would be kinda fun to see

MajorLeagueGaming - 2500 viewers

JohnSmithy631 - 33000 viewers


well hopefully MLG is honest about their viewers and don't inflate the stats. I'm guessing they will have anywhere from 5-10k 5 being the lowest 10 being the highest, but very doubtful on them even hitting 10k
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
February 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#2790
I must say that after watching HSC IV I gladly paid 5 EUR for the premium HD streams and I would even have paid 10-15$, because Dennis Gehlen (TakeSeN) who ran the tournament invested his own money, put in all players in his own apartment and it had such a nice esports come together atmosphere that I won´t ever pay more than 10$ for an event that doesn´t come close to the HSC. Their production team was outclassing (music, videos, barcraft) everything that has been seen on this planet before in esports IMHO and you simply cannot beat players casting games and their great flow without interruptions.

I really love the big MLG events big time, but after HSC I realized that 20$ is not gonna happen anytime soon. GSL Light is asking 14.99$ for an entire season and that´s about as much as I am willing to spend, but only IF I know that it is gonna rock my socks off.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#2791
On February 15 2012 04:01 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 03:58 SolidMustard wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:55 Coal wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:54 Gheed wrote:
On February 15 2012 03:52 JohnSmithy631 wrote:
I have a solution. I will pay 20$. FOR ALL OF YOU. I will purchase MLG and stream it for all of you :D
I'll post my stream on MLG weekend.

John


This is yet another reason why 20 dollars for a weekend of streams is a bad idea.


Re-streams aren't really allowed are they ?:D Would be kinda cool though....


It would be kinda fun to see

MajorLeagueGaming - 2500 viewers

JohnSmithy631 - 33000 viewers


well hopefully MLG is honest about their viewers and don't inflate the stats. I'm guessing they will have anywhere from 5-10k 5 being the lowest 10 being the highest, but very doubtful on them even hitting 10k


Just ask yourself how many viewers were on the premium stream for HomeStoryCup 4 for 7$. MLG will be flying solo on this one.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 19:11:16
February 14 2012 19:08 GMT
#2792
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s).

For clarity, please note that as long as the website that hosts your Production provides a free method to allow viewers to see the Production, Blizzard Entertainment will not object to your Production being hosted on that site, regardless of the site's "for pay" premium service plans."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE. If there is no free live stream, you just CAN'T stream a blizzard game.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
February 14 2012 19:08 GMT
#2793
On February 15 2012 04:08 Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s)."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE.


That is actually pretty interesting.

ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 14 2012 19:09 GMT
#2794
On February 15 2012 04:08 Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s)."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE.


Ups... that's quite interesting.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
February 14 2012 19:10 GMT
#2795
I hate to say it but this is a price i will not pay. It's not worth it to me. im fairly well off and i find it way too expensive. i can only imagine the thousands of people who would actually want to pay for it but simply can not afford to blow 20 dollars on 1 (ONE) weekend of MLG.

and whats worse is no free stream? O.o what?

im sorry sundance. im sitting this one out. and possibly the whole of 2012 if you're sticking to your guns.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 14 2012 19:11 GMT
#2796
On February 15 2012 04:09 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 04:08 Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s)."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE.


Ups... that's quite interesting.


I wonder if they get around it by offering the VODs at a later date. Also, GSL requires payment to view their event.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ExorArgus
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada46 Posts
February 14 2012 19:11 GMT
#2797
If the event is PPV does that mean the VoDs are replays aren't going to be released or will only be for those who payed?
Some people tell me Protoss is OP, Zerg can have over 200 supply, terrans can have kill their SCV and use mules. I hate probes.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 19:12:10
February 14 2012 19:11 GMT
#2798
On February 15 2012 04:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 04:09 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 15 2012 04:08 Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s)."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE.


Ups... that's quite interesting.


I wonder if they get around it by offering the VODs at a later date. Also, GSL requires payment to view their event.

GLS is free live.

If the event is PPV does that mean the VoDs are replays aren't going to be released or will only be for those who payed?


Vods from MLG will be released for FREE one week later.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
February 14 2012 19:11 GMT
#2799
On Feb 14 2012 14:11<span style='color:#d20000'> (0 min)</span> Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On Feb 14 2012 14:09<span style='color:#d20000'> (2 min)</span> ceaRshaf wrote:
On Feb 14 2012 14:08<span style='color:#d20000'> (3 min)</span> Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s)."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE.


Ups... that's quite interesting.


I wonder if they get around it by offering the VODs at a later date. Also, GSL requires payment to view their event.


They have free SQ stream live.
eSports or die tryin'
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
February 14 2012 19:12 GMT
#2800
On February 15 2012 04:08 Xalorian wrote:
Anyone looked at the Blizzard Video Policy?

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

"Limitation of Usage
Neither you nor the operator of any website where your Production(s) may be viewed can force a viewer to pay a "fee" to be able to view your Production(s).

For clarity, please note that as long as the website that hosts your Production provides a free method to allow viewers to see the Production, Blizzard Entertainment will not object to your Production being hosted on that site, regardless of the site's "for pay" premium service plans."


No tournament is actually ALLOWED to be PPV. NOT A SINGLE ONE. If there is no free live stream, you just CAN'T stream a blizzard game.

Do you seriously think Blizzard and MLG do not have a relationship beyond what their public policies are on their website? I don't want to come off like an asshole, but get a clue man.
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