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GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
January 26 2012 18:03 GMT
#101
Epic news! Glad to hear that the tour is still moving around the US even though I'm in the UK XD
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
January 26 2012 18:04 GMT
#102
On January 27 2012 01:48 joen05 wrote:
MLG Boston! I would LOVE that!!!


YES!!!!!

Over the summer while I'm at home and not school down south...... where I'd want to see another MLG Orlando. Or even better and more convenient, MLG Miami! DO IT
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
January 26 2012 18:04 GMT
#103
Already missing last season's structure

I get that MLG is probably trying to save money, but the sheer number of live events last year was just so awesome. Sad to see that go.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
mdvoltage.rosko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States37 Posts
January 26 2012 18:06 GMT
#104
On January 27 2012 03:02 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 02:59 chasmofcrisis wrote:
I'm still holding out hope for an MLG in Philly, but it might make too much sense. Amazing, central convention center with oodles of restaurants in the surrounding area, within a reasonably short drive of every major Northeastern city, incredibly cheap compared to NYC and Boston (and probably DC but I haven't been there in ages) and highly populated with young people.

On a related note, I really hope we get the other cities announced in a timely manner so those of us with travel restrictions can make plans with our jobs, school, etc.


In your list of items that make a ton of sense, you forgot to mention that PA (and more specifically Philly) is the poster child of Union labor rates for shows like ours.

Getting shadowed by union workers to run your show drives up cost exponentially.

I love Philly too


I wish Chicago fixed their shit with their unions too and bring an event to Chicago! Unions are pretty expensive here too. I've got a feeling MLG has wanted to come here for a while.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 18:09:00
January 26 2012 18:07 GMT
#105
On January 27 2012 03:04 TheToast wrote:
Already missing last season's structure

I get that MLG is probably trying to save money, but the sheer number of live events last year was just so awesome. Sad to see that go.


What was it? 5 events vs the 4 + the possibility of more now? They are paying for hotels and flights for a lot of players in the arena events, and have upped the prize pool. Guess they are saving money!
Brood War forever!
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 26 2012 18:08 GMT
#106
On January 27 2012 03:06 mdvoltage.rosko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 03:02 MLG_Adam wrote:
On January 27 2012 02:59 chasmofcrisis wrote:
I'm still holding out hope for an MLG in Philly, but it might make too much sense. Amazing, central convention center with oodles of restaurants in the surrounding area, within a reasonably short drive of every major Northeastern city, incredibly cheap compared to NYC and Boston (and probably DC but I haven't been there in ages) and highly populated with young people.

On a related note, I really hope we get the other cities announced in a timely manner so those of us with travel restrictions can make plans with our jobs, school, etc.


In your list of items that make a ton of sense, you forgot to mention that PA (and more specifically Philly) is the poster child of Union labor rates for shows like ours.

Getting shadowed by union workers to run your show drives up cost exponentially.

I love Philly too


I wish Chicago fixed their shit with their unions too and bring an event to Chicago! Unions are pretty expensive here too. I've got a feeling MLG has wanted to come here for a while.



Chicago, the general North East, Pennsylvania, and the big houses in LA are all bad.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
kast_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States22 Posts
January 26 2012 18:11 GMT
#107
Anaheim better be one of those championships
tripper688
Profile Joined January 2011
United States569 Posts
January 26 2012 18:11 GMT
#108
Nice! Great news :D
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
January 26 2012 18:12 GMT
#109
am i misreading? Are there fewer open lans than last year?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
January 26 2012 18:12 GMT
#110
On January 27 2012 01:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:48 Klonere wrote:
So adding in the Arena prize pools, the total for each cycle of the season is $100,100, which isn't insignificant at all.


As I said above, look for more arenas per quarter. Also, please keep in mind that just in the present structure, we're paying 100% for 48 global trips per quarter (Flight, hotel, airport, etc)


Isn't that something that sponsors should be acustomed to paying for? I understand there may be players who qualify for the event without sponsorship, and thus may not be able to make it, but a disclaimer prior to registration could fix that situation. (i.e. if you have no means of making it to the live event, you cannot register or else you will be accountable etc) I just feel like the money could be be better spent increasing the 1st place prize, or total prizepool. Thats a bit nitpicking but great work nonetheless, I'm excited to see what 2012 will bring.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 26 2012 18:13 GMT
#111
That's a perfect prize pool at least in terms of purse size and probably distribution as well
vardsun
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
January 26 2012 18:14 GMT
#112
so much money though for you guys. you'll still be making profit after all the hotel rooms, travel and food + prize money?

even so, must be a huge investment so thank you
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
January 26 2012 18:16 GMT
#113
When are all the other games going to be announced?
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 26 2012 18:16 GMT
#114
On January 27 2012 03:04 TheToast wrote:
Already missing last season's structure

I get that MLG is probably trying to save money, but the sheer number of live events last year was just so awesome. Sad to see that go.


Dawg, you should probably read a little more carefully. MLG is spending way more this year than they did last year (on SC2 anyway). 14,000*5 + 120,000 < (26,000 + 76,000) * 4 + 400*32*4 (assuming everyone who qualifies did so in a region in which they don't live, and only get a $400 stipend) + 32*250*4 (a conservative estimate of how much a cheap hotel in NYC will cost for a weekend)

in other words, 190,000 < 491,200
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
January 26 2012 18:16 GMT
#115
On January 27 2012 03:12 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:50 MLG_Adam wrote:
On January 27 2012 01:48 Klonere wrote:
So adding in the Arena prize pools, the total for each cycle of the season is $100,100, which isn't insignificant at all.


As I said above, look for more arenas per quarter. Also, please keep in mind that just in the present structure, we're paying 100% for 48 global trips per quarter (Flight, hotel, airport, etc)


Isn't that something that sponsors should be acustomed to paying for? I understand there may be players who qualify for the event without sponsorship, and thus may not be able to make it, but a disclaimer prior to registration could fix that situation. (i.e. if you have no means of making it to the live event, you cannot register or else you will be accountable etc) I just feel like the money could be be better spent increasing the 1st place prize, or total prizepool. Thats a bit nitpicking but great work nonetheless, I'm excited to see what 2012 will bring.


For big teams like EG, Fnatic, SK etc its a nice bonus not to have to pay.
For Korean teams its a godsend.
For European teams its fantastic as well.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 26 2012 18:18 GMT
#116
On January 27 2012 03:16 mbr2321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 03:04 TheToast wrote:
Already missing last season's structure

I get that MLG is probably trying to save money, but the sheer number of live events last year was just so awesome. Sad to see that go.


Dawg, you should probably read a little more carefully. MLG is spending way more this year than they did last year (on SC2 anyway). 14,000*5 + 120,000 < (26,000 + 76,000) * 4 + 400*32*4 (assuming everyone who qualifies did so in a region in which they don't live, and only get a $400 stipend) + 32*250*4 (a conservative estimate of how much a cheap hotel in NYC will cost for a weekend)

in other words, 190,000 < 491,200



Your math is also super conservative with $400 stipend math. Even with that said, remember the stipend is only for flights for those not flying out of their qualifying region. We're still doing 4 nights of hotel, per event, for every qualified competitor. Not to mention some meals, airport runs, etc.

It is a lot.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
January 26 2012 18:19 GMT
#117
MLG needs to come to DC PLEASE
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
January 26 2012 18:19 GMT
#118
any time table on when we can expect the 139 names to be released?

also, if any of the 139 turn down the offer will they be replaced?
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
January 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#119
On January 27 2012 01:36 MLG_Lee wrote:
StarCraft 2 Winter Championship Prize Money
$76,000 in total
1st Place: $25,000
2nd Place: $15,000
3rd Place: $9,000
4th Place: $5,500
5th/6th Place: $3,500 each
7th/8th Place: $2,250 each
9th- 12th Place: $1,500 each
13th-16th Place: $1,000 each



Maybe I'm horrible at maths, but $62750 does not equal $76k in prize money. Add up the amounts yourself. Even if places 17-24 get $1k each, that still totals less than $72k. Does your total include prize money for other games? If not, where's the rest of the money?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
January 26 2012 18:21 GMT
#120
On January 27 2012 03:20 Xivsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 01:36 MLG_Lee wrote:
StarCraft 2 Winter Championship Prize Money
$76,000 in total
1st Place: $25,000
2nd Place: $15,000
3rd Place: $9,000
4th Place: $5,500
5th/6th Place: $3,500 each
7th/8th Place: $2,250 each
9th- 12th Place: $1,500 each
13th-16th Place: $1,000 each



Maybe I'm horrible at maths, but $62750 does not equal $76k in prize money. Add up the amounts yourself. Even if places 17-24 get $1k each, that still totals less than $72k. Does your total include prize money for other games? If not, where's the rest of the money?


Learn to read the thread maybe?

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