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Axslav and Strifecro part ways with EG - Page 13

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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#241
Good luck to the both of them. I don't see lzgamer or Machine leaving EG soon because they are marketable. An example would be Machine, who was in the recent Kingston HyperX commercial. LZGamer is often sent to conventions to represent Kingston and other sponsors of EG. EG also got rid of their CS 1.6 team, so I'm not surprised of EG is just trying to spend their money else where.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#242
Hopefully Axslav and StrifeCro are able to find teams fairly soon!

Axslav has really improved in the last few months, I think he's a major case of success for the EG house so I'm sad to see that coming to an end. I was a doubter on the EG house at first, but if I had to pick one EG player that changed my mind about it, it would be Axslav.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
January 19 2012 00:44 GMT
#243
On January 19 2012 09:41 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 09:02 nvs. wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:01 Chocolate wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:54 iSometric wrote:
Strifecro is my fav. player. Too bad EG cut the midtier players... No longer a fan of them.

IMO it's kinda shallow to dislike a team just because they dropped a player. Of course it is your opinion, but if you look at it from EG's perspective they haven't seen many results from Strifecro compared to their other players and frankly it might not be worth the money for him to remain on the team from a business standpoint. Whether you like it or not, these teams are businesses and I believe this decision will inevitably lead to more growth within Esports as EG can allocate their money to players that they may feel are more deserving.

That being said I too regret their decision to part but I wish all parties the best.


Then you have to ask why incontrol is still on the team.

Straight up due to personality?


Incontrol doesn't need to win anything amazingly enough whether u like him or not, he's arguably one of the biggest names in foreign e sports because of his personality. In a growing scene it's not all about who's getting the best results necessarily


To an extent that istrue, but I feel offended.. Are you seriously calling him a "mascot"? iNcontrol's only in this state cuz of real life issues like he mentioned. He will bounce back like terminator ONCE the cloud clears!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 19 2012 00:44 GMT
#244
This came sooner than I expected. I was just thinking the other day that if EG was going to pick up another powerhouse from Korea, they would need to cut some people. StrifeCo and AxSlav were on the top of my list during my thoughts.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
January 19 2012 00:44 GMT
#245
After the whole Grubby incident and multiple explanations, people still can't stop to think about it from a company business perspective? StrifeCro and Axslav were improving, but not up to the level that EG expected them to. It's a logical choice to cut them if EG is looking to refocus their budget and roster. I don't really say this in spite of either player though. In fact, I wish them the best of luck because they were an entertaining 2v2 team.

All the flak at iNcontroL should really stop. For all the deficiency in play skill that he faces, he more than makes up in PR and general personality marketability. He gets all this crap from the community, but the moment that he left SotG, everyone was crying for his return.

I wonder if this move by EG is to transition into a style similar to Liquid for roster management. Keep a small roster, but have much more exposure for all their players. PuMa and JYP being sent to more foreign tournaments would be awesome. I would love to see more DeMusliM at tournaments as well. A roster refocus can actually be a good thing. Everyone should approach it with a more open mind.
CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 00:47:02
January 19 2012 00:44 GMT
#246
Really upsetting. I feel Axslav is very underrated. But what puzzles me is that they keep Lzgamer. He really hasn't done anything. But anyways, good luck to them both!
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 00:46:19
January 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#247
On January 19 2012 09:44 dacimvrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 09:41 Ace.Xile wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:02 nvs. wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:01 Chocolate wrote:
On January 19 2012 08:54 iSometric wrote:
Strifecro is my fav. player. Too bad EG cut the midtier players... No longer a fan of them.

IMO it's kinda shallow to dislike a team just because they dropped a player. Of course it is your opinion, but if you look at it from EG's perspective they haven't seen many results from Strifecro compared to their other players and frankly it might not be worth the money for him to remain on the team from a business standpoint. Whether you like it or not, these teams are businesses and I believe this decision will inevitably lead to more growth within Esports as EG can allocate their money to players that they may feel are more deserving.

That being said I too regret their decision to part but I wish all parties the best.


Then you have to ask why incontrol is still on the team.

Straight up due to personality?


Incontrol doesn't need to win anything amazingly enough whether u like him or not, he's arguably one of the biggest names in foreign e sports because of his personality. In a growing scene it's not all about who's getting the best results necessarily


To an extent that istrue, but I feel offended.. Are you seriously calling him a "mascot"? iNcontrol's only in this state cuz of real life issues like he mentioned. He will bounce back like terminator ONCE the cloud clears!


I mean to be honest i'm not sure if I ever see him getting to some amazing state. He was decent at one point but that was at the very release of the game and he's never been able to make up ground since then. I mean i really hope that he gets better but I don't necessarily see him doing it, not everyone can just become the next flash if they try hard sadly. I don't think they're keeping him around cause they expect him all of a sudden to start dominating their top 4 players and play on a korean level because that's sadly a rather huge step in play.
Kuror
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States399 Posts
January 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#248
Nooo D:
Dropping these two, adding on JYP... Seems like EG's slowly becoming an even more beastly team
Wish these two didn't have to go ):
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#249
Demuslim is way overhyped, but he's still got easilly enough ROI to be worth having on EG.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 19 2012 00:46 GMT
#250
Axslav is like... one of my favorite players. I'm sad :/
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
January 19 2012 00:47 GMT
#251
Pretty Big Fan of Axslav though Never really see Results from either player I really hope them the best and that we can see them make a resurgence with a new team. Best of luck to the both of them.
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Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
January 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#252
On January 19 2012 09:43 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 09:40 Gamegene wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:35 TheSmartOne wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:17 StrinterN wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:11 Son of Gnome wrote:
On January 19 2012 09:06 Postman wrote:
LZGamer stays but Axlav goes? I don't how I feel about that, but best of luck to Axlav and Strifecro both (even if they leave the scene). Also best of luck to Machine and Demuslim, with the rate of foreign teams signing Koreans EG might have the roster to let them go like this next year.

demuslim wont be going anywhere anytime soon, he has done decent at mlgs and at European events.


Demuslim is absolutely not going anywhere :p

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DeMusliM
his latest good tournament placement is almost year old and he is almost invisible, i dont see any reason why EG should keep him ...


what the hell? people calling DeMuslim bad? what?

this reminds me of people shitting on haypro, and then he fucks over MVP and Nestea.

i hope for irony's sake that DeMuslim wins the next MLG.



I don't see why people keep making this argument, haypro had 1 good instance of play in an entire year, demuslim has done nothing this year really. How do people like you justify your claim that x is so good even though there is nothing really to quantify that claim. It's like me saying that the sky is purple because it is, there's really no results to back this up. Like yes we all realize they're "good" they play professionally, but there's a huge difference from some random footballer from china and messi. Most people are capably of taking a game and often times a set of almost anyone in the world, it'd be almost ridiculous to assume that x will be y 100% of the time, there are bound to be upsets.


He's done much more than "nothing" for the entire year.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1589_DeMusliM

These type of results are consistent with many other notable foreigners, and he is able to play with the best when he's in form.
@DreamingBird
Pessle
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom37 Posts
January 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#253
Just not worth the investment, their American training house is going to look pretty empty... INcontrol & Anna Prosser's private mansion.
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
January 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#254
I'm sad for Axslav and Strifecro but I think EG's decision is understandable. Even with the massive improvements shown by Axslav especially, they can't really compete on the level EG is trying to play at. Not to say they don't have the potential to become the best. I really hope someone picks them up.
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
January 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#255
good luck guys!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
January 19 2012 00:49 GMT
#256
expected but unfortunate all the same.

best of luck to the both of them in the future.
Forever ZeNEX.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 19 2012 00:50 GMT
#257
On January 19 2012 09:43 Ace.Xile wrote:
I don't see why people keep making this argument, haypro had 1 good instance of play in an entire year, demuslim has done nothing this year really. How do people like you justify your claim that x is so good even though there is nothing really to quantify that claim. It's like me saying that the sky is purple because it is, there's really no results to back this up. Like yes we all realize they're "good" they play professionally, but there's a huge difference from some random footballer from china and messi.


I hate bandwagons. I hate how people can have such unbelievably high expectations.
I hate you're either in the best in the world and expected to take home championships or you're just a scrub so easily written off and called on to change teams.

Because believe it or not there are good players who don't have 1st place medals who you don't have to call bad.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Emyndri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States29 Posts
January 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#258
Axslav T_T
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#259
No statement from the players?
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 00:54:09
January 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#260
On January 19 2012 08:49 wichenks wrote:
No way! I wonder why?


This is the first time I have seen or heard either of their names since I can't remember when (EG streams excluded). I'm sure people can point out "this" or "that," but the bottom line is that they just haven't been relevant in a while (if ever?). Why not open up the books for bigger and better talent?

EG is my favorite foreigner team by far, and I love Machine but I wouldn't be surprised if we see him part ways with EG too before long.

P.S. No disrespect meant to either player, they are both really great players compared to the whole and I hope they achieve greatness in what ever it is they decide to do post-EG.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
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