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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
January 13 2012 22:28 GMT
#1201
Incoming SK.MKP!
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 13 2012 22:29 GMT
#1202
People also have to remember this isn't BW where you had to live in a pro house so you could conversate witht hem about the game. Nowadays skype and other programs make it alot easier to talk over the internet. Being at home and talking to the person you''e practicing against is just as good as being right beside them

But this is the TL forums and people are going to over react to everything. His play will not drop at all.
warblob004
Profile Joined January 2011
United States198 Posts
January 13 2012 22:29 GMT
#1203
OHHHH JEEE ESS wait.... :O:O:O ??? ESS KAY EM CHEE?
"I have not failed; I've simply found 10,000 ways it won't work." ~Thomas Edison
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 13 2012 22:29 GMT
#1204
On January 14 2012 07:28 canikizu wrote:
Incoming SK.MKP!

Then they are all hired to cast GSL.
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
January 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#1205
Whyyyy?
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
January 13 2012 22:31 GMT
#1206
WHAT THE F*CK?! Damn weird...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
January 13 2012 22:33 GMT
#1207
my jaw dropped and my mind was swimming in incomprehension. i have a million questions but first i have to even let this sink in...
Canada
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 13 2012 22:33 GMT
#1208
On January 14 2012 07:29 magnaflow wrote:
People also have to remember this isn't BW where you had to live in a pro house so you could conversate witht hem about the game. Nowadays skype and other programs make it alot easier to talk over the internet. Being at home and talking to the person you''e practicing against is just as good as being right beside them

But this is the TL forums and people are going to over react to everything. His play will not drop at all.

Not really it isn't. It's actually completely different to live in an environment full of SC2 related stuff 24/7, compared to just logging in and voice chatting through the internet. Plus the team house has the coach, which is completely lost when training from home AND when you're in a team that has no real coach at all.

I dunno, I insist, unless SK and MC have something special prepared, I expect MC's level to drop dramatically in the coming months. It's obviously not going to be instantaneous, but he's gonna be WAY behind on metagame and strategy development, and in important matches, without a proper team behind, he's gonna get hard countered with specific builds against him to which he won't be ready.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27201 Posts
January 13 2012 22:35 GMT
#1209
On January 14 2012 07:33 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 07:29 magnaflow wrote:
People also have to remember this isn't BW where you had to live in a pro house so you could conversate witht hem about the game. Nowadays skype and other programs make it alot easier to talk over the internet. Being at home and talking to the person you''e practicing against is just as good as being right beside them

But this is the TL forums and people are going to over react to everything. His play will not drop at all.

Not really it isn't. It's actually completely different to live in an environment full of SC2 related stuff 24/7, compared to just logging in and voice chatting through the internet. Plus the team house has the coach, which is completely lost when training from home AND when you're in a team that has no real coach at all.

I dunno, I insist, unless SK and MC have something special prepared, I expect MC's level to drop dramatically in the coming months. It's obviously not going to be instantaneous, but he's gonna be WAY behind on metagame and strategy development, and in important matches, without a proper team behind, he's gonna get hard countered with specific builds against him to which he won't be ready.

I would agree but both Nestea and MVP are to my knowledge not in the MVP house and aren't exactly behind the curve. MC seems a popular guy so unless expressly forbidden to I can't imagine his former teammates would be averse to training with him, as long as it isn't for matches against oGs players
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#1210
On January 14 2012 07:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 07:33 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 07:29 magnaflow wrote:
People also have to remember this isn't BW where you had to live in a pro house so you could conversate witht hem about the game. Nowadays skype and other programs make it alot easier to talk over the internet. Being at home and talking to the person you''e practicing against is just as good as being right beside them

But this is the TL forums and people are going to over react to everything. His play will not drop at all.

Not really it isn't. It's actually completely different to live in an environment full of SC2 related stuff 24/7, compared to just logging in and voice chatting through the internet. Plus the team house has the coach, which is completely lost when training from home AND when you're in a team that has no real coach at all.

I dunno, I insist, unless SK and MC have something special prepared, I expect MC's level to drop dramatically in the coming months. It's obviously not going to be instantaneous, but he's gonna be WAY behind on metagame and strategy development, and in important matches, without a proper team behind, he's gonna get hard countered with specific builds against him to which he won't be ready.

I would agree but both Nestea and MVP are to my knowledge not in the MVP house and aren't exactly behind the curve. MC seems a popular guy so unless expressly forbidden to I can't imagine his former teammates would be averse to training with him, as long as it isn't for matches against oGs players

NesTea and MVP frequently visit the house and it's been said they are particularly very well supported by their coach on a regular basis. The lack of a coach is what is the biggest loss here. People obviously will still train with him, but it's a different mindset.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
January 13 2012 22:38 GMT
#1211
OGSMC R I P
T_T
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#1212
On January 14 2012 07:27 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
[3:01:55 PM] Alex Schwartz: SK making SC2 team?
[3:02:02 PM] Min-Sik Ko: hey
[3:02:08 PM] Min-Sik Ko: well we go with MC first
[3:02:09 PM] Min-Sik Ko: and than see
[3:02:10 PM] Min-Sik Ko: ^^


From my conversation with Reis about it earlier.


Alex Shwartz is a sexy name.

Just not as sexy as Jang Min Chul.
HexSCII
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada115 Posts
January 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#1213
Wow, best of luck to MC. I really hope he continues to inspire me the way he has when he won GSL. God, those were the days. Watch MC pwning GSL and copying his builds.

Btw, how good are the coaches compared to the players. I mean, their understanding of the game has to be on par with the players so...
Nexus first or die trying. partinG/MC/oz/Squirtle/Nani/ HerO
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
January 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#1214
On January 14 2012 06:57 Plexa wrote:
I see no good coming from this. Moving to a team like EG would be infinitely better for him.


I would have loved to see that!

Either way i think SK is going to buyout more koreans to practice with him and maybe make him captain of a team house. Why not when you got funds like SK?
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
January 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#1215
Wow, I really did not expect that. I wish him all the best, but I'm also kinda sad. oGs-TL (or TL-oGs?) is one of my favourite teams...
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
January 13 2012 22:42 GMT
#1216
...
Whoaaaaaa, was DEFINITELY not expecting this. I can't wrap my head around an oGs without MC
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
January 13 2012 22:42 GMT
#1217
On January 14 2012 07:33 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 07:29 magnaflow wrote:
People also have to remember this isn't BW where you had to live in a pro house so you could conversate witht hem about the game. Nowadays skype and other programs make it alot easier to talk over the internet. Being at home and talking to the person you''e practicing against is just as good as being right beside them

But this is the TL forums and people are going to over react to everything. His play will not drop at all.

Not really it isn't. It's actually completely different to live in an environment full of SC2 related stuff 24/7, compared to just logging in and voice chatting through the internet. Plus the team house has the coach, which is completely lost when training from home AND when you're in a team that has no real coach at all.

I dunno, I insist, unless SK and MC have something special prepared, I expect MC's level to drop dramatically in the coming months. It's obviously not going to be instantaneous, but he's gonna be WAY behind on metagame and strategy development, and in important matches, without a proper team behind, he's gonna get hard countered with specific builds against him to which he won't be ready.

This happened in WC3 too, so it's just history repeating itself. The scene got big, foreign organization buying Koreans to play for them as merc, next thing you know, serious Korean organization (wemadefox and the like) jumping in and buy the Koreans back.
From WC3 perspective, top players' skill are not going to go down, they still practice with the same people (most of)


People need to regconize that SC2 works differently than BW. In BW, everytime you read the winner interviews, players only thank people who are on the same tea (A team, B team but still the same team). In WC3, and now SC2, winners usually thank people from different teams/clans. SC2 is more "global" than BW, so stuffs like this will happen more and more.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
January 13 2012 22:42 GMT
#1218
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SK_Gaming

SK Gaming has 1 player..... 1.....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 22:49:49
January 13 2012 22:42 GMT
#1219
On January 14 2012 07:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
I would agree but both Nestea and MVP are to my knowledge not in the MVP house and aren't exactly behind the curve. MC seems a popular guy so unless expressly forbidden to I can't imagine his former teammates would be averse to training with him, as long as it isn't for matches against oGs players


They don't sleep at the IM house but they do train there. IM house tour video on youtube, both MVP & NesTea are there. I dunno if they spend all their practise time at the house, if they don't the difference with their situation and MC's is they have a teamhouse to go to when its necessary.

SK probably have something in the works for MC (if he wants it). Hopefully so coz a team house environment is a really good thing.
stuff & things
Spray
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States402 Posts
January 13 2012 22:43 GMT
#1220
wtf why
HuK Fighting~~!
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