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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 29 2012 07:10 GMT
#501
What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games.
This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama.
If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.

The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
January 29 2012 07:13 GMT
#502
On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote:
What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games.
This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama.
If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.

The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.


Are you high?
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
January 29 2012 07:17 GMT
#503
+1 to OP, Image is very important to every business.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 29 2012 07:18 GMT
#504
On January 29 2012 16:13 Kashll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote:
What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games.
This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama.
If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.

The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.


Are you high?


Well, I havn't slept in 24 hours, but that's beside the point.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
January 29 2012 07:20 GMT
#505
On January 29 2012 16:18 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 16:13 Kashll wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote:
What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games.
This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama.
If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.

The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.


Are you high?


Well, I havn't slept in 24 hours, but that's beside the point.


Well my point is that I think on the spectrum between caring about the actual games and the "sex appeal"/conduct of players Starcraft is still faaaaaaaaar on the side of the actual games. So don't be melodramatic
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
January 29 2012 07:40 GMT
#506
On December 30 2011 02:50 faulty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 02:25 Primadog wrote:
http://www.studcraft2.com/players


sC is above MarineKing, lol

Where all the females?
John 15:13
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 07:43:56
January 29 2012 07:42 GMT
#507
Well OP is right, mainstream means everyone has to appreciate it, so people who don't understand or care for the complexity and intellectual depth of StarCraft have to be enterained some other way. So giving pro gamers more sex appeal will give StarCraft a broader reach for people who can't be sold on the intracicies and beauty of the game alone. As for whether this is something we should be doing, whether we want people liking and being part of StarCraft solely for the sex appeal and drama, thats another thing altogether.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 29 2012 07:49 GMT
#508
On January 29 2012 16:17 pedduck wrote:
+1 to OP, Image is very important to every business.

do you want starcraft to turn into a business or stay a game?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 29 2012 07:55 GMT
#509
On January 29 2012 16:49 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 16:17 pedduck wrote:
+1 to OP, Image is very important to every business.

do you want starcraft to turn into a business or stay a game?


Clearly business. It means that it sells. Which means that it grows. Which means that competition and viewership grows.
Bullet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States280 Posts
January 29 2012 08:00 GMT
#510
the gaming scene in america is protrayed as we're all ugly people with no girlfriends, jobs, or social skills. Channels like g4 don't help that sterotype of gamers either. Gaming has gone mainstream, but the sterotype is kind of hard to break free from. When you go to gaming types of conventions for the most part the sterotype holds, unfortunently. =/ hopefully this trend ends and gamers as a whole get some more respect, haha.
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 29 2012 08:01 GMT
#511
Image means so much in these types of things. It attracts more viewers which mean more money. Money. Money. Money. That's what it all comes down to. It's all about the money money money. Always about the money money money.
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
January 29 2012 08:11 GMT
#512
On January 29 2012 16:03 Crunktd wrote:
..... muscluar does not equate to sex appeal...... why are foreigners so hanged up on this....

Ummm Yes it does. Are you retarded? Masculinity/ femininity IS SEX APPEAL. Muscles are the core definition of what I think most people see as a masculine man... AKA Sex appeal. Do you not watch any commercials??? Muscles are masculinity which is SEX APPEAL.


they actually arent everywhere. you're ignorant.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 08:21:03
January 29 2012 08:20 GMT
#513
On January 29 2012 17:11 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 16:03 Crunktd wrote:
..... muscluar does not equate to sex appeal...... why are foreigners so hanged up on this....

Ummm Yes it does. Are you retarded? Masculinity/ femininity IS SEX APPEAL. Muscles are the core definition of what I think most people see as a masculine man... AKA Sex appeal. Do you not watch any commercials??? Muscles are masculinity which is SEX APPEAL.


they actually arent everywhere. you're ignorant.


i think theres just a miscommunication here

women that are thrown around in the average commercial to be sexy normally arent "jacked" with lots of muscles. girls being jacked with muscles would be seen as tomboys or something

on the flip side, many commercials have skinny men, even skinny men being portrayed as attractive, however id say on average most of the time a commercial has a dude in it and they are trying to sell sex appeal, normally the man isnt super skinny like a woman. Normally the man has a bit more muscles than a woman, not as much as incontrol but the dude doesnt look like 2008 idra either

so yes, muscles does equal sex appeal, however it depends on the context/assumptions you use that statement in, meaning it probably means absolutely nothing since there is no way to actually define anything in this argument

so actually, on second thought, i would say the correct answer is that *BOTH* of you are wrong
ThomasHobbes
Profile Joined October 2010
United States197 Posts
January 29 2012 08:22 GMT
#514
Look at what Tiger Woods did for golf.

He turned it from a game of old men in weird ass clothes to a sport kids wanted to play.

Image isn't everything, but it's nearly everything. Without a good image, SCII will be relegated to the minority fringe. Purists are fine, but they have to understand that they can't ask for both, either SCII grows, and the image grows with it, or it stagnates and remains the game they currently love.
"The life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
NeWnAr
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore231 Posts
January 29 2012 08:50 GMT
#515
The problem lies in the fact that 90% of the world's populations still believe in the innate yet untrue fact that Games =\= Bad. Golf was just boring. It didn't have any negativity attributed to it. Gaming, however has been slammed so badly by the media that it carries a very bad vibe regardless of how people portray it nowadays. Sigh.
Live For the Swarm!
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
January 29 2012 08:53 GMT
#516
On January 29 2012 17:22 ThomasHobbes wrote:
Look at what Tiger Woods did for golf.

He turned it from a game of old men in weird ass clothes to a sport kids wanted to play.

Image isn't everything, but it's nearly everything. Without a good image, SCII will be relegated to the minority fringe. Purists are fine, but they have to understand that they can't ask for both, either SCII grows, and the image grows with it, or it stagnates and remains the game they currently love.

No kid wants to play golf dude.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
January 29 2012 10:30 GMT
#517
I love the passion, but StarCraft is not going mainstream. It is not mainstream and it never will, and it is not because of how SC2 pro gamers look like. We'll have to wait years for pro gaming to go mainstream in the west. And the game/games could be totally different.

StarCraft lives in the internet, supported by enthusiastic people who also play the game. It should not matter if we have hot looking guido pro gamers or not. It's a niche sport.
xxx
BlondeOna
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia89 Posts
January 29 2012 10:35 GMT
#518
On January 29 2012 19:30 Coeus1 wrote:
I love the passion, but StarCraft is not going mainstream. It is not mainstream and it never will, and it is not because of how SC2 pro gamers look like. We'll have to wait years for pro gaming to go mainstream in the west. And the game/games could be totally different.

StarCraft lives in the internet, supported by enthusiastic people who also play the game. It should not matter if we have hot looking guido pro gamers or not. It's a niche sport.


You cannot be further from the truth.
'This is a f****** joke, f*** you'
Scorm
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
January 29 2012 14:19 GMT
#519
On December 30 2011 02:23 Naniwa wrote:
im up for photoshoot any time.


<3

Do it!

That would be awesome! I totally agree. Make StarCraft 2 sexy.
“It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful.” -Anton LaVey
CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
January 29 2012 16:01 GMT
#520
On December 30 2011 02:25 Primadog wrote:
http://www.studcraft2.com/players

Artosis #4? someone has a crush.
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