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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:32 GMT
#1
Not going to write a long drawn out post. I know I thought about leaving Fnatic around 8 months ago, but I decided to stay for the duration of the year, signed a contract until the end of 2011... and continued with the team.

However, I've decided that its time to move on to new challenges. So effective as of right now, I am no longer part of the Fnatic organization. It has been a good two years with the team, and I feel like they don't really need me any more and I really want to spend my energy tackling different projects.

For people that might say "omg Fnatic is losing all these people lately bla bla,"

I think Fnatic is going in a really good direction right now, and I would never have felt like I could leave the team if I wasn't confident that they could continue on their path well without me... I don't want to spoil any of the things they're working on, but I feel like they'll be just fine! I have faith that 2012 will be a good year for them.


Anyway, I'd like to also take this time to answer people's questions about... whatever: I'll talk about my experience managing a pro team for the past 2 years, and whatever else you guys might be curious about. I won't spoil any secrets, but otherwise I'll happily answer questions if anybody is curious about stuff.



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Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
December 23 2011 07:33 GMT
#2
Last person I would expect to leave Fnatic.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 07:35:26
December 23 2011 07:34 GMT
#3
Where next?

Fnatic is a solid team. I think they will do well, They got some solid management and a solid roster.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
December 23 2011 07:34 GMT
#4
Do you know what you're going on to do now? or just going to relax for the christmas break?
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
December 23 2011 07:35 GMT
#5
Will you still be involved in esports Xeris?
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 23 2011 07:36 GMT
#6
This is truly shocking but gl hf with your future endeavors, and a big THANKS for your work. You've been one of the most active managers and I really appreciate everything you've done, definitely made me a fan of fnatic.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
December 23 2011 07:37 GMT
#7
Wow, this is unexpected.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 23 2011 07:37 GMT
#8
I love you duran
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 23 2011 07:38 GMT
#9
hope fnatic's SC2 division survives.
Thank God and gunrun.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:38 GMT
#10
- I do know what I'm going to do now... I've been at the NASL studio all week, and will be there all next week too! Planning for the future and such But I'll take a few days for Christmas.

- Still in eSports... in fact, MORE in eSports than ever before probably

- Titusmaster6 thanks so much! I appreciate it
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
December 23 2011 07:40 GMT
#11
what are some of the daily duties that go into managing a team like fnatic? is it a fairly stressful job or are you able to enjoy yourself through it all?
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
December 23 2011 07:40 GMT
#12
I believe Fnatic should keep going and take up SC2 as its main ESports Division and recruit a small Korean team. Maybe like Zenex or New Star HoSeo and merge with em.
"All your parties are our pre-parties cause you ain't from IV!"
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 07:44:08
December 23 2011 07:42 GMT
#13
Thanks for your dedication to the sport we all love. No doubt you've already got some new stuff in the works, so good luck with that!

And of course this probably means you will have more time to work with the CSL, awesome!
"See you space cowboy"
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
December 23 2011 07:43 GMT
#14
oh SHIT Xeris is leaving, what the hell

This is so random D:
Jaedong plz
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:43 GMT
#15
On December 23 2011 16:40 Acronysis wrote:
what are some of the daily duties that go into managing a team like fnatic? is it a fairly stressful job or are you able to enjoy yourself through it all?


Daily duties include... writing news articles (I wrote about 15-20 per month), making sure people came to clanwars, handled scheduling of events / tournaments, travel schedules, budgeting, and overseeing other duties like making sure players wrote their blogs, did video content, etc.

It was very stressful at times, especially dealing with some players is much more difficult than others (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa), but overall, managing a team is very fun, at least for me.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:43 GMT
#16
On December 23 2011 16:42 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Thanks for your dedication to the sport we all love. No doubt you've already got some new stuff in the works, so good luck with that!

And of course this probably means you will have more time to work with the CSL, awesome!


CSL ftw !!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
December 23 2011 07:44 GMT
#17
I'm a fan of your work Xeris. Can you comment on what your full time projects are now? Did you receive "compensation" from Fnatic?

Was it a mutually agreeable split? Did they attempt to offer you a "sweet heart" deal for 2012?

In regards to NASL, do you have any funny stories like the time Gretorp stayed up all night playing SC2 but had to cast 12-14 hours of NASL the following day. Reportedly, Gretorp got 6 coffees and put them in his bag for the day. When the coffee ran out, so did Gretorp. He apparently fell asleep while casting.

When he woke up he would say the same thing Incontrol said a few seconds before

Best of luck Xeris
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
December 23 2011 07:44 GMT
#18
As long as Fnatic has KawaiiRice, anything is possible!
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Cheeseypoofs
Profile Joined August 2010
66 Posts
December 23 2011 07:46 GMT
#19
Duran, we all appreciate your contributions to eSports, and good luck wherever you go! Be rooting for you my friend <3
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
December 23 2011 07:46 GMT
#20
On December 23 2011 16:44 jsemmens wrote:
As long as Fnatic has KawaiiRice, anything is possible!


don't forget about ToD or nightend, they ain't to shabby either
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
December 23 2011 07:47 GMT
#21
On December 23 2011 16:46 Acronysis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:44 jsemmens wrote:
As long as Fnatic has KawaiiRice, anything is possible!


don't forget about ToD or nightend, they ain't to shabby either


or rain, kids a thug
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
December 23 2011 07:48 GMT
#22
do we still have to give you our chairs?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 23 2011 07:48 GMT
#23
hmm duran I am sad to hear this! you are one of the best managers out there.. is another team managing spot possible for you now or in the future? And by possible I mean would you take one etc..
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:49 GMT
#24
On December 23 2011 16:44 sword_siege wrote:
I'm a fan of your work Xeris. Can you comment on what your full time projects are now? Did you receive "compensation" from Fnatic?

Was it a mutually agreeable split? Did they attempt to offer you a "sweet heart" deal for 2012?

In regards to NASL, do you have any funny stories like the time Gretorp stayed up all night playing SC2 but had to cast 12-14 hours of NASL the following day. Reportedly, Gretorp got 6 coffees and put them in his bag for the day. When the coffee ran out, so did Gretorp. He apparently fell asleep while casting.

When he woke up he would say the same thing Incontrol said a few seconds before

Best of luck Xeris


Full time projects: NASL, CSL. I basically cut my work load in half, which means I have about 1000x as much time to put into those two things :D!! VERY excited about this.

Did I receive compensation from Fnatic: yes I did.

Mutually agreeable split: yes it was, and no they didn't offer me a sweet heart deal, I chose not to re-new my contract.

I have so many funny stories... most of which involve Gretorp sleeping.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
December 23 2011 07:49 GMT
#25
gl brah. see you when I get back to cali for sure ^^
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 23 2011 07:50 GMT
#26
On December 23 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:44 sword_siege wrote:
I'm a fan of your work Xeris. Can you comment on what your full time projects are now? Did you receive "compensation" from Fnatic?

Was it a mutually agreeable split? Did they attempt to offer you a "sweet heart" deal for 2012?

In regards to NASL, do you have any funny stories like the time Gretorp stayed up all night playing SC2 but had to cast 12-14 hours of NASL the following day. Reportedly, Gretorp got 6 coffees and put them in his bag for the day. When the coffee ran out, so did Gretorp. He apparently fell asleep while casting.

When he woke up he would say the same thing Incontrol said a few seconds before

Best of luck Xeris


Full time projects: NASL, CSL. I basically cut my work load in half, which means I have about 1000x as much time to put into those two things :D!! VERY excited about this.

Did I receive compensation from Fnatic: yes I did.

Mutually agreeable split: yes it was, and no they didn't offer me a sweet heart deal, I chose not to re-new my contract.

I have so many funny stories... most of which involve Gretorp sleeping.


Forgot GCPL
Thank God and gunrun.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:52 GMT
#27
On December 23 2011 16:48 iNcontroL wrote:
hmm duran I am sad to hear this! you are one of the best managers out there.. is another team managing spot possible for you now or in the future? And by possible I mean would you take one etc..


It is possible, I'd most likely take one!

As for chair-guy comment... yes I require every single chair, ever
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:52 GMT
#28
On December 23 2011 16:49 qxc wrote:
gl brah. see you when I get back to cali for sure ^^


Yessuh... a little birdie tells me ur going to the CSL LAN in Irvine?!?! :D
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
December 23 2011 07:55 GMT
#29
i dont doubt you that fnatic is still a good team as i revere ToD due to his play at the last dreamhack...sick sick play

also, not manager related...a while ago (few months ago) my pc crashed mid game vs you..and i never did get a rematch, play me sometime?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 23 2011 07:56 GMT
#30
What does it take to get into your business? I'm not at a point where i can play at the pro level even though i'm only 17 compared to people who have been playing for years now, i'd still like to atleast attempt to help the E-sports scene because i think it is one of the few sports that hasn't fallen to corruption, even if there are a few big egos around. How can i get into the scene on less of a caster level and more of a let me make shit happen level.
User was warned for too many mimes.
stomp2anewbeat
Profile Joined June 2011
United States36 Posts
December 23 2011 07:57 GMT
#31
Xeris, i had a feeling you'd be doing this for a while, but i wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors. Oh, Btw, Do you know Aston? Ender? i think he mentioned you a week or so ago....
"So uh, I KILL YOU" MC ~~ Stomp.885 Plat Protoss Add me for Practice :D
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 07:59 GMT
#32
On December 23 2011 16:55 unit wrote:
i dont doubt you that fnatic is still a good team as i revere ToD due to his play at the last dreamhack...sick sick play

also, not manager related...a while ago (few months ago) my pc crashed mid game vs you..and i never did get a rematch, play me sometime?


XerisLighT.903 -- you can msg me any time I'm on and I'll give you some games if you want.

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 23 2011 08:00 GMT
#33
Very unexpected. Hopefully you stay on with NASL, and good luck in the future! Much love.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
December 23 2011 08:01 GMT
#34
Holy crap O.o, this, to me at least, is super shocking :O. Good luck in the future with whatever you're doing! I can't wait for what your future projects will be, especially with your added time for CSL :D!!!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:05 GMT
#35
On December 23 2011 16:56 docvoc wrote:
What does it take to get into your business? I'm not at a point where i can play at the pro level even though i'm only 17 compared to people who have been playing for years now, i'd still like to atleast attempt to help the E-sports scene because i think it is one of the few sports that hasn't fallen to corruption, even if there are a few big egos around. How can i get into the scene on less of a caster level and more of a let me make shit happen level.


I'd say to get into the business (esportsssssssss), it depends on what you want to do. I don't really know much about being a caster because I don't cast very much... but as far as administrating, running events, and managing... I'd join up with an organization as an admin and just get experience and learn that way.

Or join a team as an admin, and get experience and build your reputation.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
December 23 2011 08:09 GMT
#36
You've gone a long way since broodwar times xeris

no doubt in my mind ur future is even brighter
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
December 23 2011 08:09 GMT
#37
Idk who you are but it's always sad when a team and player depart.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:10 GMT
#38
On December 23 2011 17:09 ReignFayth wrote:
You've gone a long way since broodwar times xeris

no doubt in my mind ur future is even brighter


Yo man, you sponsored my LAN in 2008, that was the coolest thing Really helped the Canadian scene!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
VATO_Gandair
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
December 23 2011 08:11 GMT
#39
Xeris, what was your busiest day as a manager and why?
I like the purple bags of skittles.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
December 23 2011 08:11 GMT
#40
On December 23 2011 16:43 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:40 Acronysis wrote:
what are some of the daily duties that go into managing a team like fnatic? is it a fairly stressful job or are you able to enjoy yourself through it all?


Daily duties include... writing news articles (I wrote about 15-20 per month), making sure people came to clanwars, handled scheduling of events / tournaments, travel schedules, budgeting, and overseeing other duties like making sure players wrote their blogs, did video content, etc.

It was very stressful at times, especially dealing with some players is much more difficult than others (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa), but overall, managing a team is very fun, at least for me.


Lol MAAAAAAAAAAA

Best of luck brother. I am sure we will keep seeing you all through e-sports :D
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
December 23 2011 08:13 GMT
#41
Sad though, you fitted really well there, IMO... Does it mean Xeris to NaVi's new team since 2012 or anything like that?
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:14 GMT
#42
On December 23 2011 17:11 VATO_Gandair wrote:
Xeris, what was your busiest day as a manager and why?


My busiest day as a manager was when Fenix had to get his VISA to go to Korea. He was staying in AZ, but there was no Korean embassy there, so I had to arrange a last minute bus trip for him to come to LA... then I had to pick him up, take him to the embassy, wait around all day, make sure he got the VISA, and make sure he got back on the bus to go back home.

That was a pretty stressful day
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:15 GMT
#43
On December 23 2011 17:13 arew wrote:
Sad though, you fitted really well there, IMO... Does it mean Xeris to NaVi's new team since 2012 or anything like that?


Heya Arew ~~

I dunno if any European organization would want me, plus they're mostly Ukrainian right?
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
December 23 2011 08:17 GMT
#44
On December 23 2011 17:15 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 17:13 arew wrote:
Sad though, you fitted really well there, IMO... Does it mean Xeris to NaVi's new team since 2012 or anything like that?


Heya Arew ~~

I dunno if any European organization would want me, plus they're mostly Ukrainian right?


Long time no see, btw. How have you been? Well, I think they'll do something globally since 2012 and it was the first mind which came to my head once I've read this post. But I'm sure that you'll get involved into something big, sooner or later
750/750 emotions fully stacked
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
December 23 2011 08:17 GMT
#45
Whats the best way for someone to get their foot in the door in team organizations?
Skuller
Profile Joined September 2010
United States197 Posts
December 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#46
General question:
What are the specific duties of a manager?
Why are managers essential to any team?
Who of your fellow managers do you think is doing a great job and why?

We do not get to hear a lot about what managers do in general. We sometimes hear (for example on the last couple episodes of sotg) that Nazgul is one of the most pro-active managers, and that most are relatively inactive.

Thank you!
RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
December 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#47
I wish you the best Duran, your a really incredible person. Esports is directly impacted and benefited from people like you, look forward to seeing you again soon somewhere in the near future!
twitter.com/RuMCaKeS
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#48
Yea arew... good! I haven't seen you since BW, although I've seen ur coaching thread on gg.net seems to be going well for you :D!

Beast ... just figure out what teams need, and get involved. I.E. if a team needs writers, and you can write.. apply to be a writer. If they need social media, apply for that, if they need a manager apply for that. Having some kinda resume helps, otherwise, you can do what I did. I used to be a player, and I eventually started doing organizational work because I thought that could help my team more than me playing (since I didn't have time to play 8 hours a day any more)... and from there I just got more experience and a reputation as a manager and organizer, and from there it became much easier to get those kinds of positions
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:22:54
December 23 2011 08:22 GMT
#49
This isn't exactly related to your post, and I'm sorry to ask a potentially stupid question in advance, but are you really from Iran? I am Iranian myself.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 23 2011 08:23 GMT
#50
I want to thank you aswell, i think you dont get enough attention for your work
Regina
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands148 Posts
December 23 2011 08:24 GMT
#51
could anyone explain who this guy is seemed so random for me by just making a topic goodbye fanatic. like reading the comments hes one of fnatics managers ?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
December 23 2011 08:26 GMT
#52
Probably one of the biggest contributors in the community for the past few years.

GL with whatever you do in the future!
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 08:32:09
December 23 2011 08:30 GMT
#53
On December 23 2011 17:21 Skuller wrote:
General question:
What are the specific duties of a manager?
Why are managers essential to any team?
Who of your fellow managers do you think is doing a great job and why?

We do not get to hear a lot about what managers do in general. We sometimes hear (for example on the last couple episodes of sotg) that Nazgul is one of the most pro-active managers, and that most are relatively inactive.

Thank you!


Specific duties : Can vary depending on the team but; writing, scheduling, budgeting, pampering, wiping of asses, communicating with management, serving as a human alarm clock, etc.

Why are managers essential: Players are lazy and can't do anything for themselves (ok I'm generalizing here... this is obviously not true). But seriously, with a good manager, the player ONLY has to focus on playing. A player has a lot of things to worry about, for example: "how am I getting to the next LAN? where do i find a taxi to get from the airport to the venue? how do i complete my registration? how do I sign up for this tournament? how can I get invited to Dreamhack?" ... it is hard for a player to focus on training when he has all these questions to answer. A manager answers all those questions for him, so he can focus on playing. This is why a good manager is important.

I think RumCaKe from ItsGosu is doing a really good job, because he's built a team from the ground up and they've become a very respectable organization. But I think the people over at Mouz are doing an amazing job... they've built the #1 foreign team, I don't think anyone can doubt this claim. They won 2 seasons of EGMC, got 2nd in IPL Team Arena Challenge, 3rd in GCPL 2. No team has done better... and they have done it without recruiting any Korean players. You can even say they are the only true foreign team amongst the top tier teams, and their players are able to consistently beat Korean players in events.... you need to give a lot of credit to their management for making that happen.


Also, I will add that Nazgul is basically my role model, ever since I was 10 years old. I've been a huge fan of his even before Liquid was created, when he was a part of [i'm] on US East with my older cousin. He was my favorite player then (I was a newbie kid on the training team), and I followed his results when he was playing in Korea, and today I just admire and respect everything he's done with Liquid. Nobody can top Nazgul in my opinion
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 23 2011 08:34 GMT
#54
goodluck dude, managing a bunch of sc2 players and making sure their on time for things can be a hassle and is a lot of work. Much respect!
savior did nothing wrong
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
December 23 2011 08:35 GMT
#55
What's the biggest misconception about team management or any "behind-the-scenes" biz?
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
December 23 2011 08:37 GMT
#56
sad that you leave fanatic

hope youre gonna find another great team that picks you up gogo xeris
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 08:41 GMT
#57
On December 23 2011 17:35 shindigs wrote:
What's the biggest misconception about team management or any "behind-the-scenes" biz?


I think the biggest misconception is that managing is easy? People don't seem to put a lot of thought into what it takes to manage a team. In fact, I'd say that managing Fnatic took up just as much time as working full time at NASL.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
December 23 2011 08:42 GMT
#58
You'll always do well wherever you go.
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Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
December 23 2011 08:42 GMT
#59
You'll be missed.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
December 23 2011 08:52 GMT
#60
I've always been a big fan of yours. Thanks for all you've done.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
December 23 2011 08:57 GMT
#61
This title makes it sound as though Fnatic is dead, lol
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
December 23 2011 08:57 GMT
#62
When should I get goon range when using 1 base goon/reaver PvZ on requiem? lolol. jk.

Gl on your future endeavors as well as gl to fnatic.
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
December 23 2011 09:00 GMT
#63
i agree you might want to change the title of the thread. It sounded like Fnatic was being disbanded haha. Well goodluck to you xeris. People always seemed to have nice things to say about you.
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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 23 2011 09:01 GMT
#64
the title is a bit misleading, but other than that :O good luck xeris to you going fulltime to NASL and CSL!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 23 2011 09:01 GMT
#65
Tbh I always disliked Xeris, so this makes me pretty happy.
Off-season = best season
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:28:45
December 23 2011 09:06 GMT
#66
On December 23 2011 18:01 Redox wrote:
Tbh I always disliked Xeris, so this makes me pretty happy.


No one cares. 1. Because his departure is intended and so he's not ruining himself or putting him in a poor situation (as you're hoping)

edit: #2: manner up, this topic isn't for you to spew your opinion on someone.



Xeris: Who will be replacing you? ): I don't know who to contact now (about HSC and other events) QQ
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
December 23 2011 09:24 GMT
#67
what...
Xeris was always my favourite
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laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
December 23 2011 09:26 GMT
#68
Wait.. What? This is like... Worse than when Harold and Kumar split up ]:
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Russano
Profile Joined November 2010
United States425 Posts
December 23 2011 09:29 GMT
#69
Can we get the title changed to Xeris and fnatic part ways or something? I thought this was about the fnatic team disbanding.
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
December 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#70
good luck to you in the future Xeris. lol and the title was a bit deceiving, but its a big part of fnatic thats leaving
Manex
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:48:39
December 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#71
lol, it thought this thread was an annoucement of fnatic disbanding, and i was all like whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa???
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Humposaurus
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands86 Posts
December 23 2011 09:52 GMT
#72
I have a question for you, who the hell are you xD?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 10:09:02
December 23 2011 09:53 GMT
#73
On December 23 2011 18:52 Humposaurus wrote:
I have a question for you, who the hell are you xD?


He won these comments through years of hard work.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
December 23 2011 10:14 GMT
#74
How did you find time to lead so many projects? I mean you were involved with CGPL, CSL, Fnatic and NASL.

How did you manage all of that and still have a social life and play some SC2?


I respect you hardwork! GL
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 23 2011 10:16 GMT
#75
He is also in grad school
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Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 23 2011 10:23 GMT
#76
I really hope you do not fall out of the scene Xeris, no matter what though I wish you the best of luck.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 23 2011 10:28 GMT
#77
Was Sen the most awesome person ever or the MOST AWESOME PERSON EVER?
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hxd
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom117 Posts
December 23 2011 10:30 GMT
#78
YEA BYE DURAN!
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
December 23 2011 16:16 GMT
#79
TT adrian is now a lone wolf
sad news but i cant say i didnt see this coming, gl with all your projects duran and keep in touch
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#80
On December 23 2011 18:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:01 Redox wrote:
Tbh I always disliked Xeris, so this makes me pretty happy.


No one cares. 1. Because his departure is intended and so he's not ruining himself or putting him in a poor situation (as you're hoping)

What? He can have all the success in the world for all I care.
I am just happy that he is not with Fnatic anymore.
Off-season = best season
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#81
way to leave with a week left on ur contract noob


jk
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CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
December 23 2011 16:33 GMT
#82
I've often disagreed with your opinions, but one things for sure, you're one hell of a manager!

I don't think fnatic would've been half the team without you, and I wish you the best of luck to where ever you're heading.
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inn5013orecl
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
December 23 2011 16:38 GMT
#83
Phoenix told me to tell you he never got his Fnatic shirt. Oh and i never got that spg patch! GL in your other ventures man! Hit me up if you're in LA and not busy like usual!

Oh, and schedule your NASL finals so I'm not in Vegas again next year! lol.

-SoFLUFFY
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terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
December 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#84
Good luck with your future endeavors, wherever they may be!!
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FluX-
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
December 23 2011 18:16 GMT
#85
Good luck Duran! I'm excited to see what is in store for CSL and NASL!
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 23 2011 18:25 GMT
#86
hrm wow, they are still strong with ToD I hope they continue on with training in Korea, but they could use more players and possibly a merge with a smaller Korean team? regardless quite unexpected but I hope both parties continue in a positive direction
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
December 23 2011 18:32 GMT
#87
Can you talk about tribes in nasl yet?
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ArtisaBang
Profile Joined December 2011
195 Posts
December 23 2011 18:34 GMT
#88
On December 24 2011 03:25 Badfatpanda wrote:
hrm wow, they are still strong with ToD I hope they continue on with training in Korea, but they could use more players and possibly a merge with a smaller Korean team? regardless quite unexpected but I hope both parties continue in a positive direction

maybe merge with TSL?

TSL is without protoss and ToD in korea?
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 23 2011 18:41 GMT
#89
You've always been inarguably one of the hardiest working people in the scene. You are one of the heads of CSL, wear so many hats including the big ones over at NASL, led fnatic for so many years, have been a huge part of the american BW and now SC2 scenes, and through it all you still strive to be a great player and play for our CSL team, which, it shouldn't be forgotten, that you are now a grad student at one of the top schools for your field in the world.

Your work is really incredible, whatever it takes for you to be able to focus your all on everything you do, it'll be great to see the fruits of your labor in the coming months and years.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 23 2011 18:47 GMT
#90
Good luck Xeris with where-ever you go! Good luck to Fnatic as well.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 23 2011 18:52 GMT
#91
I've got a question: Do you think older players who are considering player management as the next stage of the career are being realistic? That is, do you think it's is/will be in the next five years a stable job which can sustain someone?
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
December 23 2011 18:52 GMT
#92
Good Luck in the future Handsome[LighT] =)
So wait? I'm bad? =(
nerfherder182
Profile Joined December 2011
53 Posts
December 23 2011 18:58 GMT
#93
Can anyone tell me what xeris did for fnactic? i didnt see him play i dont think, all i saw were write ups and team updates and stuff
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 23 2011 19:01 GMT
#94
On December 24 2011 03:58 nerfherder182 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what xeris did for fnactic? i didnt see him play i dont think, all i saw were write ups and team updates and stuff


He did things like make sure players showed up to clan wars, organized flights for them and made sure they had chairs at events.
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-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
December 23 2011 19:43 GMT
#95
they still have good cs team
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TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
December 23 2011 19:49 GMT
#96
I'm surprised but I guess it's how things work, I hope you continue being awesome where ever you go Xeris!
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 23 2011 19:56 GMT
#97
On December 24 2011 04:01 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 03:58 nerfherder182 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what xeris did for fnactic? i didnt see him play i dont think, all i saw were write ups and team updates and stuff


He did things like make sure players showed up to clan wars, organized flights for them and made sure they had chairs at events.

lol
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 23 2011 19:56 GMT
#98
So when can we expect the "LighT is reformed!" announcement?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#99
On December 24 2011 03:52 -_- wrote:
I've got a question: Do you think older players who are considering player management as the next stage of the career are being realistic? That is, do you think it's is/will be in the next five years a stable job which can sustain someone?


I think there are a lot of valuable roles to play, but my main thought about that would be...

a) Once the scene fully develops and matures, there are going to be a finite number of teams capable of paying people a sustainable / livable salary. Maybe 10-20 teams will be able to do that... so right there, there are only 10-20 people who will be able to support themselves from being team managers. Obviously, there are an almost infinite number of manager positions available, but there's a huge difference between being the manager for a team like vVv and EG, for example. So, while I think it is a realistic career choice, someone considering it needs to be aware that the pool of jobs will be VERY limited and only a handful can make a real living by just being a manager.

b) Team managers aren't getting enough to live off of, the salary I got from Fnatic based on the amount of work the job required was fractional. My salary at NASL is much higher than what I got paid from Fnatic but the work load was very comparable. So right now, the scene is not developed enough where managers can even earn a livable wage, this is another issue. In the next 5 years however, I think this issue will probably be resolved, and managers will be able to earn real wages.

c) The other thing to think of is that there will be different positions other than team manager. I think coaching is going to be a new developing trend in the foreign community. I think Strelok is a person positioned to do that, where he basically left Mouz to join imba not only to compete as a player, but to position himself to be a sort of coach / leader / mentor to the next generation of players to be in the team after he 'retires.' I think there is a real future in these kinds of positions that older top players thinking about not playing full time will be able to do.


Hopefully that's a decent answer
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#100
On December 24 2011 03:32 TBone- wrote:
Can you talk about tribes in nasl yet?


I can't give a lot of details about it, but in January we'll have a much better idea of what's going to be happening with that and what you all can expect!
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Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
December 23 2011 20:12 GMT
#101
Did you just help with SC2 or CS aswell, or even my favorites, the HoN team
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
December 23 2011 20:14 GMT
#102
would be cool to see Xeris become an EG captain so incontrol can start gaming hard. =]
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 20:20 GMT
#103
On December 24 2011 05:12 Slakkoo wrote:
Did you just help with SC2 or CS aswell, or even my favorites, the HoN team


I only did SC2... and I was one of the most active journalists on the site... I never really spoke to or dealt with any other squads of Fnatic.
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TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
December 23 2011 20:30 GMT
#104
gl xeris : )
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zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
December 23 2011 20:32 GMT
#105
On December 24 2011 05:20 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 05:12 Slakkoo wrote:
Did you just help with SC2 or CS aswell, or even my favorites, the HoN team


I only did SC2... and I was one of the most active journalists on the site... I never really spoke to or dealt with any other squads of Fnatic.


Lets say there was a team out there that would theoretically hire you. What would be the ideal minimum offer?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 23 2011 20:34 GMT
#106
GL Xeris, you should come back to DC for one of our LANs/dinners. It's been so long! (like...BW days long!)
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 20:40 GMT
#107
On December 24 2011 05:34 Torenhire wrote:
GL Xeris, you should come back to DC for one of our LANs/dinners. It's been so long! (like...BW days long!)


Dude I live in DC, and I was at Netolic in November :D
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#108
On December 24 2011 05:32 zJayy962 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 05:20 Xeris wrote:
On December 24 2011 05:12 Slakkoo wrote:
Did you just help with SC2 or CS aswell, or even my favorites, the HoN team


I only did SC2... and I was one of the most active journalists on the site... I never really spoke to or dealt with any other squads of Fnatic.


Lets say there was a team out there that would theoretically hire you. What would be the ideal minimum offer?


I don't have a minimum, it would all depend on what the situation is, what my role would be, what would be expected of me, the players on the team, etc.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 23 2011 20:55 GMT
#109
On December 24 2011 05:40 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 05:34 Torenhire wrote:
GL Xeris, you should come back to DC for one of our LANs/dinners. It's been so long! (like...BW days long!)


Dude I live in DC, and I was at Netolic in November :D


Well fuck me.

I didn't know you lived in DC. Last I ever saw you was when you laughed at me for failing at hosting a BW tournament and you did it yourself. BW LAN at Seoul PC....

NEVER FORGET.


*bitter*


+ Show Spoiler +
*not actually bitter*
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 21:06 GMT
#110
: )) !!
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NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
December 23 2011 21:10 GMT
#111
Thank you for all your hard work Xeris.

Take care.
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Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 21:41:06
December 23 2011 21:27 GMT
#112
On December 23 2011 16:32 Xeris wrote:

Anyway, I'd like to also take this time to answer people's questions about... whatever: I'll talk about my experience managing a pro team for the past 2 years, and whatever else you guys might be curious about. I won't spoil any secrets, but otherwise I'll happily answer questions if anybody is curious about stuff.



(I don't know if this was asked but

EDIT: Answered.

EDIT:

Question 2: I'm apart of a small university/team in the CSL. It's just basically stupid when we have 6-7 members from a 5k student body and we play a big university vs a roster of 50 master players alone, 300+ person roster, and a 30k student body.

Is CSL considering of changing its format with divisions based on university size or anything like that? I'm sure big name schools would prefer to play big name schools around the country than compared to that smaller college down the street. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 21:30:47
December 23 2011 21:30 GMT
#113
On December 24 2011 06:27 Nizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:32 Xeris wrote:

Anyway, I'd like to also take this time to answer people's questions about... whatever: I'll talk about my experience managing a pro team for the past 2 years, and whatever else you guys might be curious about. I won't spoil any secrets, but otherwise I'll happily answer questions if anybody is curious about stuff.



(I don't know if this was asked but

Why did you think it was okay during that MLG event to just move peoples belongings that were on 'saved' seats while they were probably getting food/going to rest room for you to just take their seats?

I'm a nobody in the scene but even if I was some big time player/manager I would have enough respect and logic not to do that if the seats aren't completely empty. Plus from the description they said you said "Don't they know who we are" like you're some big time guy. They just want to watch the pros play man, and paid money for it.


=_____________________________=;;

I feel so bad for Xeris with misinformed stories like this.


I got a question, where did you get that blazer in your most recent interview with Hot_Bid, it's so nice O:
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Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 21:40:48
December 23 2011 21:35 GMT
#114
On December 24 2011 06:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 06:27 Nizzy wrote:
On December 23 2011 16:32 Xeris wrote:

Anyway, I'd like to also take this time to answer people's questions about... whatever: I'll talk about my experience managing a pro team for the past 2 years, and whatever else you guys might be curious about. I won't spoil any secrets, but otherwise I'll happily answer questions if anybody is curious about stuff.



(I don't know if this was asked but

Why did you think it was okay during that MLG event to just move peoples belongings that were on 'saved' seats while they were probably getting food/going to rest room for you to just take their seats?

I'm a nobody in the scene but even if I was some big time player/manager I would have enough respect and logic not to do that if the seats aren't completely empty. Plus from the description they said you said "Don't they know who we are" like you're some big time guy. They just want to watch the pros play man, and paid money for it.


=_____________________________=;;

I feel so bad for Xeris with misinformed stories like this.


I got a question, where did you get that blazer in your most recent interview with Hot_Bid, it's so nice O:


EDIT: Already answered thanks.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 21:38:38
December 23 2011 21:38 GMT
#115
Consider both sides of the story and it's in the past, why are you bringing up something relatively minor and one-sided (that has nothing to do with Xeris as a manger of a team)?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=250398
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Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 21:40:24
December 23 2011 21:40 GMT
#116
On December 24 2011 06:38 Torte de Lini wrote:
Consider both sides of the story and it's in the past, why are you bringing up something relatively minor and one-sided (that has nothing to do with Xeris as a manger of a team)?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=250398


From you're comment I agree, its of topic for sure. Did he say ask him anything?

Wow thanks for the link, going to delete that question as that sums up everything.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#117
Is it truly A LOT easier to get sponsors now as compared to a year ago for starcraft related events?

Would you say any leagues are actually turning a profit?
Gameplay > Personality
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#118
On December 24 2011 05:10 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 03:52 -_- wrote:
I've got a question: Do you think older players who are considering player management as the next stage of the career are being realistic? That is, do you think it's is/will be in the next five years a stable job which can sustain someone?


I think there are a lot of valuable roles to play, but my main thought about that would be...

a) Once the scene fully develops and matures, there are going to be a finite number of teams capable of paying people a sustainable / livable salary. Maybe 10-20 teams will be able to do that... so right there, there are only 10-20 people who will be able to support themselves from being team managers. Obviously, there are an almost infinite number of manager positions available, but there's a huge difference between being the manager for a team like vVv and EG, for example. So, while I think it is a realistic career choice, someone considering it needs to be aware that the pool of jobs will be VERY limited and only a handful can make a real living by just being a manager.

b) Team managers aren't getting enough to live off of, the salary I got from Fnatic based on the amount of work the job required was fractional. My salary at NASL is much higher than what I got paid from Fnatic but the work load was very comparable. So right now, the scene is not developed enough where managers can even earn a livable wage, this is another issue. In the next 5 years however, I think this issue will probably be resolved, and managers will be able to earn real wages.

c) The other thing to think of is that there will be different positions other than team manager. I think coaching is going to be a new developing trend in the foreign community. I think Strelok is a person positioned to do that, where he basically left Mouz to join imba not only to compete as a player, but to position himself to be a sort of coach / leader / mentor to the next generation of players to be in the team after he 'retires.' I think there is a real future in these kinds of positions that older top players thinking about not playing full time will be able to do.


Hopefully that's a decent answer


Great response, thank you very much.
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
December 23 2011 21:50 GMT
#119
On December 23 2011 16:43 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:40 Acronysis wrote:
what are some of the daily duties that go into managing a team like fnatic? is it a fairly stressful job or are you able to enjoy yourself through it all?


Daily duties include... writing news articles (I wrote about 15-20 per month), making sure people came to clanwars, handled scheduling of events / tournaments, travel schedules, budgeting, and overseeing other duties like making sure players wrote their blogs, did video content, etc.

It was very stressful at times, especially dealing with some players is much more difficult than others (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa), but overall, managing a team is very fun, at least for me.



trust me when he says it's stressful, nothing more stressful than trying to get people to come to a clan war lol.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 23 2011 21:51 GMT
#120
I constantly hear Xeris is one of the most talented Tournament admins around, and fnatic isn't in the business of running tournaments so this only makes sense to me.
Carrilord has arrived.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 22:01 GMT
#121
@Nizzy : We've open to format changes and at the end of every season we take a look at our format and think about how to tweak it to make it better // more exciting and interesting for teams and players.

@Torte de lini: H&M last summer... not sure they make them any more?

@wklbishop : 1) I generally think it is easier to get sponsors in late 2011 as compared to 1 year ago... but not A LOT easier. People are generally more receptive to the potential of SC2 now, so they are more willing to take risks. 2) For your second question: no, I don't think any leagues are making a profit. I think we're still 1-2 years away from that.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 23 2011 22:04 GMT
#122
Do they already have a replacement set up at the end of the year for Fnatic? The liquipedia page is empty D: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Fnatic
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 22:16 GMT
#123
Don't know
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
December 23 2011 22:20 GMT
#124
Why does your TL account say you are in Iran?
Also, thanks for all you do. Without you NASL wouldn't be nearly as good!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#125
On December 24 2011 07:20 ampson wrote:
Why does your TL account say you are in Iran?
Also, thanks for all you do. Without you NASL wouldn't be nearly as good!


I'm from Iran
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 23 2011 22:24 GMT
#126
Thanks for the honest response. I hear a lot of people talking things up for business potential, but have always been personally skeptical because the numbers from sources like alexa.com just don't seem to add up to some of the hype organizers are trying to make about the future.
Gameplay > Personality
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 22:26 GMT
#127
On December 24 2011 07:24 wklbishop wrote:
Thanks for the honest response. I hear a lot of people talking things up for business potential, but have always been personally skeptical because the numbers from sources like alexa.com just don't seem to add up to some of the hype organizers are trying to make about the future.


The POTENTIAL is there, but basically nobody has been able to actualize it yet. I think the scene is pretty close though, one more year should do the trick
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 23 2011 22:34 GMT
#128
Best of luck in the future Duran .
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 23 2011 22:46 GMT
#129
On December 24 2011 07:26 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 07:24 wklbishop wrote:
Thanks for the honest response. I hear a lot of people talking things up for business potential, but have always been personally skeptical because the numbers from sources like alexa.com just don't seem to add up to some of the hype organizers are trying to make about the future.


The POTENTIAL is there, but basically nobody has been able to actualize it yet. I think the scene is pretty close though, one more year should do the trick


AT any rate, thanks for the responses. And best of luck to you in the future. =]
Gameplay > Personality
Hawk2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States229 Posts
December 23 2011 22:48 GMT
#130
Xeris, that nice guy who knew and controlled much more of foreign e-sports events than most people realize.

Good luck to you!!! <3
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
December 23 2011 22:52 GMT
#131
The part what I am really interested as i was thinking about this since I started gaming seriously:

-How did you get to be a Team Manager ? I'm pretty sure there were some stages or something ?
Would love to know some tips about this, making an own team its pretty hard at the moment and I am really curious where should someone start ? I know its not a general thing, its not like a regular job like being a medic or something but still I think there are some things to get started !

Cheers for doing so much for eSports and I wish you good luck in your future!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SlayerS_MMA| Taeja | ThorZain and Naama Fan!!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 23 2011 23:21 GMT
#132
On December 24 2011 07:52 Zion9 wrote:
The part what I am really interested as i was thinking about this since I started gaming seriously:

-How did you get to be a Team Manager ? I'm pretty sure there were some stages or something ?
Would love to know some tips about this, making an own team its pretty hard at the moment and I am really curious where should someone start ? I know its not a general thing, its not like a regular job like being a medic or something but still I think there are some things to get started !

Cheers for doing so much for eSports and I wish you good luck in your future!


The way I started is most likely not the same most people start... I used to be a competitive gamer, and I joined my team LighT as a player (I was part of the primary 1v1 lineup and played 2v2s for USA A team with my cousin). After I took a break from the game due to school, I came back and found that all my teammates had improved a lot over that time and my skill went down, so I asked myself "how can I help the team." We had a lot of players who were really active, so I started organizing clanwars for the team... and from there I became one of the leaders of the team, and essentially started my career as a manager (this was in 2005). So basically, I was a player on the team and eventually became a manager... I never got back into full time gaming and have been managing ever since.

Most managers these days are not players. The best way to get started is to get organizational experience: admin for tournaments or leagues... see if any teams need any kind of managerial work and try to do that, or form your own team (this is another big step though and requires a different set of skills).

So I'd say the best bet is: if you have friends who are gamers and are on teams, see if those teams need any help, and offer your services.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Venerac
Profile Joined December 2010
United States201 Posts
December 24 2011 00:43 GMT
#133
Good luck with everything in the future Xeris!
Proud listener of "Starcast: The Starcraft Podcast". SlayerS_BoxeR//White-Ra//djWHEAT <3<3
VPreboot
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
December 24 2011 02:29 GMT
#134
On December 24 2011 07:52 Zion9 wrote:
The part what I am really interested as i was thinking about this since I started gaming seriously:

-How did you get to be a Team Manager ? I'm pretty sure there were some stages or something ?
Would love to know some tips about this, making an own team its pretty hard at the moment and I am really curious where should someone start ? I know its not a general thing, its not like a regular job like being a medic or something but still I think there are some things to get started !

Cheers for doing so much for eSports and I wish you good luck in your future!

As a team manager myself I would say that you should start by asking a smaller team if they need help. Many small teams only have one or two people running. Coming in and helping with written content, organizational content and whatnot is a good way to start. I think that most teams will happy to get a helping hand .
Writer, Wizard, esports Warrior
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
December 24 2011 08:49 GMT
#135
On December 24 2011 05:11 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 03:32 TBone- wrote:
Can you talk about tribes in nasl yet?


I can't give a lot of details about it, but in January we'll have a much better idea of what's going to be happening with that and what you all can expect!



Kind of OT, but since you know about T:A and it being incorporated in the NASL then I'll just chime my words here...:

Tribes Ascend in all honesty is okay. So far from my beta playing experienced, compared to the first Tribes it lacks in many aspects. I realize it is an open beta, but unless they start changing many things soon I don't see the game becoming that popular or lasting long. The first Tribes was a masterpiece, and most veteran tribalwar members agree that Tribes Ascend still needs some work (but then again, most of those members including myself were spoiled with how amazing and fun the original was as we had played it at release/around that time-frame).

That said, I'm hoping for it's success because it was my favorite FPS (the original) to this date and definitely I'm hoping the final product equals the first one in greatness. However, all this COD emulation (call downs, perks) is definitely not something what I wanted to see but I'm hoping for something better.

If it does turn out amazing/fun, I might just switch over to that and dominate .
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 24 2011 08:59 GMT
#136
Was working for fnatic a fulltime job? I'm always curious about the financial self-sufficiency of eSports. Did you live off of income that came from your involvment esports?
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QxGRockEr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States191 Posts
December 24 2011 09:00 GMT
#137
Best manager out there imo. Goodluck!
LighTeSports
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
December 24 2011 09:22 GMT
#138
GL with your future endeavors Xeris!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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fdZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Mexico80 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 09:33:51
December 24 2011 09:33 GMT
#139
On December 24 2011 17:59 Vei wrote:
Was working for fnatic a fulltime job? I'm always curious about the financial self-sufficiency of eSports. Did you live off of income that came from your involvment esports?


He answered this already, he said his salary in Fnatic wasnt good enough for the work involved, but that his salary in NASL was/is better.


Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#140
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 24 2011 22:14 GMT
#141
On December 25 2011 02:18 Xeris wrote:
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary


True for pretty much every behind-the-scene work in eSports.
Thank God and gunrun.
UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
December 25 2011 03:38 GMT
#142
congrats fnatic! i hope to see you guys press on and improve even more!
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
December 25 2011 05:29 GMT
#143
Soooo. Team [LighT] is coming back? You didn't answer that question. =)
So wait? I'm bad? =(
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
December 25 2011 05:36 GMT
#144
On December 25 2011 14:29 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Soooo. Team [LighT] is coming back? You didn't answer that question. =)

the world is waiting for this answer
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
December 25 2011 05:48 GMT
#145
On December 25 2011 07:14 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 02:18 Xeris wrote:
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary


True for pretty much every behind-the-scene work in eSports.


: D the hours u put into being a progamer > full time job, but the pay <<< minimum wage
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ArtThouAngry
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada146 Posts
December 25 2011 05:58 GMT
#146
GLHF in the future Xeris
IdrA, GoOdy, Axslav FIGHTING!!!!!!!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 25 2011 07:02 GMT
#147
On December 25 2011 14:48 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 07:14 Primadog wrote:
On December 25 2011 02:18 Xeris wrote:
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary


True for pretty much every behind-the-scene work in eSports.


: D the hours u put into being a progamer > full time job, but the pay <<< minimum wage


yep
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 25 2011 07:20 GMT
#148
On December 25 2011 14:48 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 07:14 Primadog wrote:
On December 25 2011 02:18 Xeris wrote:
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary


True for pretty much every behind-the-scene work in eSports.


: D the hours u put into being a progamer > full time job, but the pay <<< minimum wage


hours u put in as a behind-the-scene = progamer, glory & money & bitches for behind-the-scene <<<<< progamer's
Thank God and gunrun.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 25 2011 08:12 GMT
#149
that sentence literally makes 0 sense l0l
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 25 2011 08:16 GMT
#150
Effort(behind_the_scene) = Effort(Pro-gamer)
Glory(behind_the_scene) < Glory(Pro-gamer)
Thank God and gunrun.
Riaelyn
Profile Joined December 2010
United States41 Posts
December 25 2011 08:24 GMT
#151
I don't want to make this sound creepy, but what other commitments were there in your life besides your managing and NASL roles? Did you have another job for income or are you still in school? Also, what was the rough amount of time that you committed each week to your managing job?
Life is Beautiful
ivirj
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico79 Posts
December 25 2011 08:50 GMT
#152
Im sorry who?

Also love fnatic, XOXO their 1.6 team
La violencia es el ultimo recurso del incompetente - Asimov
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
December 25 2011 09:11 GMT
#153
Good luck with all your future and present projects Duran You always did a great job.
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
MrWest
Profile Joined May 2010
United States71 Posts
December 25 2011 09:38 GMT
#154
Not many people realize the tedious tasks that come with being a manager. You've done great things for the scene sir! Good luck with whatever you do in the scene and beyond the game.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
December 25 2011 09:55 GMT
#155
Considering you're from Iran, how often do you get "randomly" searched before flights ?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
December 25 2011 16:47 GMT
#156
On December 24 2011 11:29 VPreboot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 07:52 Zion9 wrote:
The part what I am really interested as i was thinking about this since I started gaming seriously:

-How did you get to be a Team Manager ? I'm pretty sure there were some stages or something ?
Would love to know some tips about this, making an own team its pretty hard at the moment and I am really curious where should someone start ? I know its not a general thing, its not like a regular job like being a medic or something but still I think there are some things to get started !

Cheers for doing so much for eSports and I wish you good luck in your future!

As a team manager myself I would say that you should start by asking a smaller team if they need help. Many small teams only have one or two people running. Coming in and helping with written content, organizational content and whatnot is a good way to start. I think that most teams will happy to get a helping hand .



Thanks for your response and ofcourse Xeris's aswell

I was adminning a lot in the past on ClanBase and managed little teams but with time they all died.
Gonna try to find some smaller team now in SC2 and start helping them out. My goal is not to be a team manager of a HUGE clan, but in fact I would love to help a team raising up and growing !

Thanks for your responses !
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SlayerS_MMA| Taeja | ThorZain and Naama Fan!!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 25 2011 16:52 GMT
#157
On December 25 2011 17:24 Riaelyn wrote:
I don't want to make this sound creepy, but what other commitments were there in your life besides your managing and NASL roles? Did you have another job for income or are you still in school? Also, what was the rough amount of time that you committed each week to your managing job?


Managing SC2 for Fnatic, running NASL, running CSL, and doing consulting for SPG. I'm also attending graduate school. My only income right now is from SC.

I'm able to pay for living and school because of SC2 in addition to having a really good scholarship that pays for almost all my school costs, so I'm very lucky.

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#158
On December 25 2011 18:55 Monsen wrote:
Considering you're from Iran, how often do you get "randomly" searched before flights ?


I don't really look like the 'typical' Iranian, but I HAVE been searched twice before.. doesn't happen as much as it probably happens to Haypro though!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 17:11:02
December 25 2011 17:08 GMT
#159
I hope that your plans will have a positive outcome Xeris.. I've seen you done well in both BW and SC 2 scene.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
December 27 2011 22:07 GMT
#160
I am always cheering for you, Xeris!

XerisChoDing <3
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
December 30 2011 19:31 GMT
#161
On December 25 2011 14:48 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 07:14 Primadog wrote:
On December 25 2011 02:18 Xeris wrote:
Working with Fnatic was full-time work, but not full-time salary


True for pretty much every behind-the-scene work in eSports.


: D the hours u put into being a progamer > full time job, but the pay <<< minimum wage

fun though, right? :D
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
jkc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 19:33:43
December 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#162
Gluck to Xeris, with what ever endeavors he has planned!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
December 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#163
How many jobs do you have? Like 10?
This is our town, scrub
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 18 2012 04:02 GMT
#164
if you ever need a 2v2er, and have a spare comp, you know where to find me. ho ho ho! jk gl in the future
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