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Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#61
I think the 2 new maps are bad for Protoss. Can't FFE. And close position encourage one base all in.
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
December 20 2011 10:16 GMT
#62
On December 20 2011 17:49 Roxy wrote:

Arid Plateau - Cant FFE v zerg



Definitely possible to FFE on Arid, even though it's a bit ugly. See my post here.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 20 2011 10:17 GMT
#63
i love to respond to attacks from different directions! :D
Stork[gm]
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
December 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#64
On December 20 2011 18:32 Doganaws wrote:
Hi there. 16° EU gold terran here 496 points. I know that mabye this is not the correct thread to talk abuot pomotion but... do you think someone whit this account can be promoted to plat in season 5 ???

http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2256706/Doganaws


Probably not unfortunately, sc2ranks shows all the top gold league players having 800+ points. You probably need to be somewhere around there (assuming you used all your bonus pool).

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/eu/gold
Doganaws
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 10:37:14
December 20 2011 10:34 GMT
#65
On December 20 2011 19:30 memcpy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 18:32 Doganaws wrote:
Hi there. 16° EU gold terran here 496 points. I know that mabye this is not the correct thread to talk abuot pomotion but... do you think someone whit this account can be promoted to plat in season 5 ???

http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2256706/Doganaws


Probably not unfortunately, sc2ranks shows all the top gold league players having 800+ points. You probably need to be somewhere around there (assuming you used all your bonus pool).

http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/eu/gold


TNX man

btw NOONE in my ladder reached the threshold given by blixxard (710 points from g to p)... so noone will pass?
Unnamed Player
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia89 Posts
December 20 2011 12:55 GMT
#66
On December 20 2011 08:01 Luckbox wrote:
OP plays zerg? :D ( from downvoted maps appearance ).


Yerp
Trealador
Profile Joined August 2011
United States207 Posts
December 20 2011 13:03 GMT
#67
I can do my placement on NA but the maps are still the same. Halp?
Like a man.
Unnamed Player
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia89 Posts
December 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#68
On December 20 2011 22:03 Trealador wrote:
I can do my placement on NA but the maps are still the same. Halp?


No Arid or Entombed and still Narazim and Abysmal?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#69
On December 20 2011 22:03 Trealador wrote:
I can do my placement on NA but the maps are still the same. Halp?

try relogging, the (new) maps show up for my NA account.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#70
Yeah, my NA account shows S5 and new maps as well.
HOLY CHECK!
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 14:57:11
December 20 2011 14:56 GMT
#71
On December 20 2011 21:55 Unnamed Player wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 08:01 Luckbox wrote:
OP plays zerg? :D ( from downvoted maps appearance ).


Yerp

And you didn't downvote shak and taldarim where taking a third is next to impossible ZvP and attacking into the natural a pain in the arse?

But you did downvote xel naga caverns because it has the exact same problems, I guess?
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 20 2011 15:00 GMT
#72
On December 20 2011 23:56 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 21:55 Unnamed Player wrote:
On December 20 2011 08:01 Luckbox wrote:
OP plays zerg? :D ( from downvoted maps appearance ).


Yerp

And you didn't downvote shak and taldarim where taking a third is next to impossible ZvP and attacking into the natural a pain in the arse?

But you did downvote xel naga caverns because it has the exact same problems, I guess?


taking a 3rd is impossible ZvP on Shak?
I dont know what league u play, but my opponents build their 3rd base at minute 4:30 - pretty safely.

Im protoss, my vetos will be:
Metalopolis (for zergs christ),
XelNaga (too short),
Arid Plateau (the natural looks like a big joke for protoss to take)
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 15:06:42
December 20 2011 15:03 GMT
#73
On December 21 2011 00:00 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 23:56 KeksX wrote:
On December 20 2011 21:55 Unnamed Player wrote:
On December 20 2011 08:01 Luckbox wrote:
OP plays zerg? :D ( from downvoted maps appearance ).


Yerp

And you didn't downvote shak and taldarim where taking a third is next to impossible ZvP and attacking into the natural a pain in the arse?

But you did downvote xel naga caverns because it has the exact same problems, I guess?


taking a 3rd is impossible ZvP on Shak?
I dont know what league u play, but my opponents build their 3rd base at minute 4:30 - pretty safely.

Just watch usual ZvPs on Shak where the zerg gets a very quick third. I recommend korean games though as they show the full potential of abusing this.
Personally, I veto'd xel, taldarim and shak because of this. I hate losing!>:

Thinking about letting taldarim go though because taking the 4th instead of the third isn't nearly as dangerous on certain positions as on shak and I need another veto for valley.

But as you can see, people have different opinions.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
December 20 2011 15:20 GMT
#74
Is it announced when it's going live on EU somewhere?! ^^ checking*
Liquid
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
December 20 2011 15:22 GMT
#75
My holiday starts wednsesday morning together with the new season. I swear it's God telling me to play starcraft
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 20 2011 15:23 GMT
#76
On December 21 2011 00:20 blae000 wrote:
Is it announced when it's going live on EU somewhere?! ^^ checking*

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, wednesday morning.
ArtisaBang
Profile Joined December 2011
195 Posts
December 20 2011 15:28 GMT
#77
just checked maps!

forge expand for protoss on both maps:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


i think Entombed Valley is definitely Terran map,siege positions good as Altarim.
Entombed Valley:
PvT > T favored with siege tank timings and positioning.
PvZ > i think zerg favored because its pretty easy to taking 3rd.
TvZ > terran favored imo!

Arid Plateu
hmm...i think this map is not good for zerg playes pretty okey for terran and protoss.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 20 2011 16:07 GMT
#78
On December 21 2011 00:28 ArtisaBang wrote:
just checked maps!

forge expand for protoss on both maps:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]


i think Entombed Valley is definitely Terran map,siege positions good as Altarim.
Entombed Valley:
PvT > T favored with siege tank timings and positioning.
PvZ > i think zerg favored because its pretty easy to taking 3rd.
TvZ > terran favored imo!

Arid Plateu
hmm...i think this map is not good for zerg playes pretty okey for terran and protoss.


Yeah.... Terran is so imba...
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
December 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#79
On December 20 2011 19:16 jnkw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 17:49 Roxy wrote:

Arid Plateau - Cant FFE v zerg



Definitely possible to FFE on Arid, even though it's a bit ugly. See my post here.


My problem with FFE is that as far as I can see it, you need 3 canons to stop roach agression. In the pictures you provided, they can pick off the cyber core (gg) or the gateway (and run into your main) pretty much uncontested.

Also, that picture has 2 artosis pylons in it.

I think you have the titles of entombed and arid mixed up on the two pictures.
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
December 20 2011 18:28 GMT
#80
Not that it is super important as 1v1 is the primary objective in SC2, but i really enjoy playing multiplayer (especially 3v3 games) once in a while.

The maps right now are garbage. At best you can take 3 bases (and it certainly requires destroying rocks).
The maps are all early game zerg favored.

The maps are stale and havent been changed in about 3 seasons

http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
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