From a business standpoint I don't think that most the people that had shows would warrant a full paycheck, plus all the production expenses just for that show. Granted, I don't know what kind of money the shows generated or how the employees were paid, from Sundance's tweets it just seems like it was cutting into profits rather than generating more. This could mean increases in tournament production, tournament winnings for players and a lot more. Sucks, because the shows were entertaining. SOTG seems to not be in trouble because it doesn't seem like too much production.. JP seems to have most of it under control by himself. Plus dropping SOTG would be one of the stupidest things they can do; therefore, I'm not too worried about them dropping it. Sundance is too smart for that.

Slasher

United States1095 Posts

December 19 2011 23:00 GMT

#322

A lot of people don't seem to like me or what I do, but I appreciate the support from everyone nonetheless! Hope to be able to provide meaningful content to everyone again sometime. I would like to go more in-depth surrounding this topic and independent journalism, but not at this time.

I still work for MLG, just will not be doing the show anymore, for now.

Spaceboy

United Kingdom220 Posts

December 19 2011 23:00 GMT

#323

SC Report nooooooooooooooooooooo!

I'm glad Chobo kept back the SC Center name; I was kinda surprised they decided to change it when they started up with MLG, but in the light of this it makes perfect sense. It's a totally awesome show and I will definitely seek it out and watch regardless of where it's being put together and the production values involved. I just hope it continues to exist somewhere!

ES_JohnClark

United States1121 Posts

December 19 2011 23:03 GMT

#324

On December 20 2011 08:00 Slasher wrote:
A lot of people don't seem to like me or what I do, but I appreciate the support from everyone nonetheless! Hope to be able to provide meaningful content to everyone again sometime. I would like to go more in-depth surrounding this topic and independent journalism, but not at this time.

I still work for MLG, just will not be doing the show anymore, for now.

Good response SLasher.. now lets get the 'No spin' story

Good luck to you man.. knowing you.. I am sure you already have something brewing to bring all the kiddies!

nicotn

Netherlands186 Posts

December 19 2011 23:03 GMT

#325

On December 20 2011 07:41 Awesomeness wrote:

Show nested quote +

So you stop watching shows you like, because they are on the MLG stream?

Why would you do that?~

Because being affiliated with your "boss" you cant go around talking bad about him, or you will lose your job.

NekoFlandre

United States497 Posts

December 19 2011 23:04 GMT

#326

Thats sorta wierd that they would actually cancel shows.

They are all awesome and maybe they will continue anyway.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

December 19 2011 23:05 GMT

#327

!@#$ was actually a decent show, not only covering SC2 but a lot of the other games like the FPS and Fighting community. What shall we do without SOTG?

magicmUnky

Australia280 Posts

December 19 2011 23:05 GMT

#328

F Slasher was a great show and will be missed, if this is truly it's final death. Perhaps Slasher will resurrect the show with a name that isn't shitty :D

Very disappointing news... I feel without F Slasher there is no other decent e-sports journalism?

Amsterdamned

Netherlands6 Posts

December 19 2011 23:06 GMT

#329

This makes me sad, I liked both shows very much. That said, I totally understand why it was done. There was a very large conflict of interest and it reared it's ugly, conflicty head just recently with the whole Naniwa debacle, specifically when it came to Naniwa's spot in Code S and whether he had earned it through MLG or it was given to him. Slasher stated that he "couldn't talk about it" for a show. If I had to guess, that may have been the tipping point. You can't have a real journalistic show when it's on the website of one of the two biggest gaming leagues in the US. While that can be done eventually (like the MLB or NFL network), you really need to have an independent scene established with content that isn't influenced by anything but the facts. There was simply no way to do that with these shows on MLG's website, put on by people who work for MLG. While I don't agree that working for a single company means that you will automatically have bias and spout fluff when it comes to that organization, this was at the extreme end of having a conflict of interest.

It also makes sense from a financial aspect. We have to remember the community has been clamoring for MLG to improve their prize pool, the quality of their high-quality streams, and so on, as well as the fact pros have been asking for a while for a dedicated pro area. While MLG did grow amazingly over the past year, we don't know their financials. What we do know is it seems like they have a strict business plan, and money doesn't grow on trees. If they wanted to improve their tournament product and the growth of 2011 wasn't enough to do so then cuts needed to be made in other places to improve what is their main product, the tournament series.

So while it stinks, and I enjoyed those shows, it does make sense. I wish the timing had been better, letting people go and cancelling things right before Christmas and the new year was pretty Grinch-like to those directly involved. That said, I see Scoots tweeting about a new Slasher show already, and Chobopeon's in this very thread talking about bringing SC Center back (who knows, maybe OneMoreGame.tv is the place to go in the future for "television" SC2 journalism), so at the end of the day this may end up being a good thing.

hedstrom

Sweden31 Posts

December 19 2011 23:09 GMT

#330

Time to go back to good old SC center then?

I do hope F slasher will continue in some form as well =/

Incandenza

United States56 Posts

December 19 2011 23:11 GMT

#331

On December 20 2011 08:06 Amsterdamned wrote:
(who knows, maybe OneMoreGame.tv is the place to go in the future for SC2 journalism).

Or ESFI, especially considering they provided this info...

PheeniX

Germany19 Posts

December 19 2011 23:11 GMT

#332

maybe its even good news, since they can be more free in speech while not beeing under to hood of MLG...
I don't think they will stop doing these shows completely, maybe they will merge into 1 good show ;-)
SC Center was a very good concept in my opinion, hopefully it will not die!
Also State of the Game could need some refreshment...
ah and... fuck slasher! ;-)

Keyboard Warrior

United States1178 Posts

December 19 2011 23:12 GMT

#333

Oh shit this is unexpected...

lean and mean ok, will still be supporting

Amsterdamned

Netherlands6 Posts

December 19 2011 23:12 GMT

#334

On December 20 2011 08:11 Incandenza wrote:

Show nested quote +

Or ESFI, especially considering they provided this info...

Yeah, I fixed my quote to be more specific, I meant via video.

ronpaul012

United States769 Posts

December 19 2011 23:16 GMT

#335

I hope they pull a DJWheat and go off air for a while and come back with more focused and organized shows. I personally found that the shows aired at a time that was hard to watch, and the shows were so common that a lot of times they didn't feel like they had a lot of meaning. Judging by Sundance and Slasher's statements I doubt that the shows are gone forever, but they just needed to revamp them.

iruel

Canada75 Posts

December 19 2011 23:17 GMT

#336

i see no reason why these shows require MLG to exist. so they won't be on MLGs stream anymore, big deal. the biggest thing i see here is that it could potentially delay the next SotG episode, which would be unforgivable and i would thusly stop watching all MLG related content... not really but i woulnd't be happy about it.

Adebisi

Canada1637 Posts

December 19 2011 23:20 GMT

#337

On December 20 2011 08:17 iruel wrote:
i see no reason why these shows require MLG to exist. so they won't be on MLGs stream anymore, big deal. the biggest thing i see here is that it could potentially delay the next SotG episode, which would be unforgivable and i would thusly stop watching all MLG related content... not really but i woulnd't be happy about it.

Watch Slasher's show, he might often be the only one on camera, but he has a producer at least, and getting the guests and preparing the topics actually take a lot of time, and the show will often run like 2+ hours, it's a very big time commitment.

ZisforZerg

United States224 Posts

December 19 2011 23:20 GMT

#338

this is quite upsetting. by Sundance's tweet it seems they're cutting budget for something, i assume events. this actually sucks quite a bit

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

December 19 2011 23:20 GMT

#339

Most of them didn't get many viewers, but I am sad to see fuck slasher /SC report go. I imagine eventually these shows might catch now, but probably not a big enough audience to be worth the money atm.

Hundisilm

Estonia99 Posts

December 19 2011 23:21 GMT

#340

You know you sometimes say stupid stuff, but at least I think there will be a hole in the place where your show (and SC Report as well) used to be. The scene seems to be too big by now for Lo3 to fill by itself. A weekly show instead perhaps at some point?