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On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote: Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them.... care to tell us about your sources? Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money
where are you guys getting that it takes 2-3 people to produce the show?
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On December 20 2011 05:31 Thelionheart wrote: I think part of the reason these shows were cancelled were because destiny and other streamers had consistently more viewers than mlg's shows. Its sad and I hate that this has happened, but part of it is on us for not tuning in.
Err, it's not "on me" for these shows to succeed. Many of these shows brought in viewership comaprable to a mid-level popularity streamer and only for the periods of time they're on. These shows require planning and organization but I can't imagine the overhead is too much for MLG. All of the shows mentioned are way inferior to SotG, I really doubt SotG will go anywhere.
MLG hopefully doing something else to match the amount of content IPL puts out.
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No way that they would cancel State of The Game...... that is too good.
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This sucks for fans of the shows, but its a pretty reasonable and probably wise business move. It is extremely unlikely that those shows generated enough revenue to pay for themselves. And as MLG makes huge leaps in its scope, there are other considerations that go along with it. Some of those are justifying operations that have a negative margin, like the shows in question.
So while these will be missed by their viewers, I am ok with this move from MLG and it is consistent with what I consider an awesome vision and trajectory for that tournament series.
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How much money could it possibly take to not be able to justify the costs of these?
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Not surprising. MLG said before that it considered the online hosting platform for these shows as a purely temporary way to have content between events. I'm positive they'll be replacing them with something else.
edit: Anyone who thinks SotG is disappearing is dumb. But if it's no longer MLG syndicated that's really really good, in my opinion.
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I quite liked Fuck Slasher. Oh, sure, I didn't often find the time to watch it (particularly with time zones), but when I did I always found it worth the time.
Obviously State of the Game would go on even without MLGs support. I wonder if it would still be able to be called State of the Game. Though, even if MLG did cancel SotG and own the rights to the "brand", it would be a terrible move to actually enforce that. That'd be a lot of angry nerds. Angry nerds that may or may not buy MLG Gold.
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Doesn't this mean those shows will probably just find new hosting?
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They really shouldn't cancel state of the game its a really great show that has been around for a long time. Fuck slasher is a good show too I don't see why they canceled that really. SC report was ok ish but it was just one too many shows. Fuck slasher was nice since the format was different with all the guests and since its a talk show format and they let random people on to talk too which is ever so funny
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On December 20 2011 07:51 Antisocialmunky wrote: Doesn't this mean those shows will probably just find new hosting?
aside from branding issues, yeah they can, may not be as well produced as before though
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On December 20 2011 07:46 csn_JohnClark wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote: Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them.... care to tell us about your sources? Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money where are you guys getting that it takes 2-3 people to produce the show?
do you think it takes 1 person to produce each of these shows? cause then you're crazy
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On December 20 2011 07:51 Antisocialmunky wrote: Doesn't this mean those shows will probably just find new hosting?
The talent certainly won't disappear. It's not like they're executing the employees. They may not even be in shows anymore but we'll certainly still be hearing their voices.
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I wonder if DjWheat is going to rub this in Slasher's face in the next Live on Three. I think these shows had the same problem NASL currently has, by airing everyday they are way to frequent and lose their value.
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On December 20 2011 07:28 brad1031 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:25 Mandalor wrote:On December 20 2011 07:21 brad1031 wrote: Wise to cancel these shows. They lose money by producing them.... care to tell us about your sources? Umm......? How do you make money off of 2k viewers and 3k at most? when you have to pay at least 3-5 people to produce one of the shows you lose an absurd amount of money They don't make money off it, they make show to keep the viewers in touch, so they know what's going on. Just like UFC they need to have a show to talk about upcoming fighters right? Also SoTG have 20k viewers easily, so if you don't know a thing pls don't talk.
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Finally they start cutting loosy shows out. Thank you MLG !
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Slasher is probably staying with LO3, I would imagine. So this certainly isn't the last we've heard of him. Although I have to say I quite liked "Fuck Slasher".
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juicyjames
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When Sundance detailed MLG's plans for 2012 at that one live State of the Game at an August MLG didn't they say they were going to have online regional qualifiers which lead up to the live events every season?
Couldn't this be freeing up the time slots for JP+Artosis (or whomever) to cast the qualifiers like how they casted the MLG Global Invitational (which I assume was testing the waters for 2012 MLGs)?
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On December 20 2011 07:56 Amlitzer wrote: I wonder if DjWheat is going to rub this in Slasher's face in the next Live on Three. I think these shows had the same problem NASL currently has, by airing everyday they are way to frequent and lose their value. If he has any business sense we could see fuck slasher/SC report on onemoregame.tv, because, well, where else ?
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My thought is that MLG as a league figures that they shouldn't be the ones producing stories and covering the games that are played in their tournaments. It;s pretty similar to how the NBA doesn't write and produce all the coverage about their games. They leave those to networks and independent journalists to cover. I think this is a great spot for Twitch.TV to come in and pick up these guys to do shows and to become a premiere spot for all the journalistic coverage for the leagues.
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