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SC2 is negligible both in China and South Korea compared to War3 and BW, respectively. However, Korea has a huge advantage in having a bigger SC2 scene and having BW, which is in every manner a pro sport in Korea, as the model for how to practice and organize (particularly team houses and regimens), etc. Not to forget that the bigname SC2 Korean players are BW veterans, albeit most were quite subpar BW players at the time of switching, except perhaps ForGG (although even he was on the verge to falling B-Team, though it's not surprising when Flash and Mind are on your team).
That said, if War3 dies tomorrow in China, and all the War3 players switch to SC2, I can see China region being the 2nd best in the world in SC2 after Korea. Now? They're kinda meh. Sure, they're probably better than NA (excluding Huk and maybe Idra), but that's not saying too much  .
Now when BW is converted to SC2 in Korea? First, kiss all the current SC2 Korean stars goodbye (yes, even I will dearly miss some of them), and secondly, good Korean players will be untouchable by foreigners.
Well, good luck to the Chinese GSTL team. I don't know if they can stand up to many of the Korean teams, but we'll see :S.
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if we were to just go by the top players in china by results in their team league right now it'd be
f91
loner
yhy
xy
super
macsed
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I'll definitely bee rooting for them, should they decide to participate!
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On December 16 2011 05:33 stuchiu wrote:
Sorry I didn't clarify, I meant the Chinese people in general. There is a strong nationalistic pride going on between China vs. Taiwan. I know in one of the WCG the entire Chinese audience were harassing and shouting at him as he made his way to compete. I wouldn't know anything about the pro teams at all about their feelings toward Sen.
Maybe it won't even matter since the GSTL doesn't have the same Olympic feeling that WCG has.
which WCG is that?
stop making things up. you americans listen to fox news too much.
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On December 16 2011 05:43 bonedriven wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 05:33 stuchiu wrote:
Sorry I didn't clarify, I meant the Chinese people in general. There is a strong nationalistic pride going on between China vs. Taiwan. I know in one of the WCG the entire Chinese audience were harassing and shouting at him as he made his way to compete. I wouldn't know anything about the pro teams at all about their feelings toward Sen. Sorry, that only happened in your dream. As far as I know, the chinese love Sen a lot.
Yep -- there's a lot of hate on Taiwan in general but noone sees a Taiwanese player as "oh ew he's from Taiwan."
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That'd be pretty badass! Maybe they can find a partnership
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On December 16 2011 06:29 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 05:33 stuchiu wrote:
Sorry I didn't clarify, I meant the Chinese people in general. There is a strong nationalistic pride going on between China vs. Taiwan. I know in one of the WCG the entire Chinese audience were harassing and shouting at him as he made his way to compete. I wouldn't know anything about the pro teams at all about their feelings toward Sen.
Maybe it won't even matter since the GSTL doesn't have the same Olympic feeling that WCG has. The Chinese only get mad at WCG when a Taiwanese person gets a medal and gets to hold up the "Chinese Taipei" flag. They don't like the fact that Taiwan is represented by a flag as they don't recognize it as a sovereign country.
The Chinese Government doesn't, but the people do not represent the government.
Though I don't know what regular Chinese Citizen's opinion of Taiwan is though.
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maybe SaSe can play on that team since he has sent a couple of years in China? I could see this team doing well without him.
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That would be so cool, I really hope it will work out.
Boy, does 2012 look awesome or what? =)
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On December 16 2011 00:49 Myrista wrote:
xigua's revenge is now
He was thoroughly destroyed by Mvp, so if i were him I'm either hungry for revenge, or scared to rematch.
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I hope XiGua, 91, LoveTT, LoveCD, MacSed, Loner, among others.
Also, F91 was casting GSL with the normal NeoTV guy yesterday. He said he wasn't afraid of MVP (on ladder) and has beaten him on ladder (not big deal, but fun to know).
As for China vs/inc Taiwan, the Mainland populace is a split between "One China, it's a province of China and it always has been and always will be." and "Why didn't my grandpa go with the KMT to Taiwan way back when? TT" We love them mostly as brethren though, their music, their movies, their TV, and their progamer(s), just that some of us can't accept them as a sovereign nation. Just seems the Mainland (people and government) sort of are fine with the status quo that is Taiwanese ambiguity.
(Inappropriate but most suitable analogy I can think of: Democrats and Republicans engage in civil war, Dems drive GOP to Alaska. GOP claim Alaskan independence, Dems claim One USA! China sells weapons to Alaska.) 
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That's so incredible, china is key to esports, this is so incredibly awesome, a massive talent pool will enter the global stage.
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On December 16 2011 09:18 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 06:29 chenchen wrote:On December 16 2011 05:33 stuchiu wrote:
Sorry I didn't clarify, I meant the Chinese people in general. There is a strong nationalistic pride going on between China vs. Taiwan. I know in one of the WCG the entire Chinese audience were harassing and shouting at him as he made his way to compete. I wouldn't know anything about the pro teams at all about their feelings toward Sen.
Maybe it won't even matter since the GSTL doesn't have the same Olympic feeling that WCG has. The Chinese only get mad at WCG when a Taiwanese person gets a medal and gets to hold up the "Chinese Taipei" flag. They don't like the fact that Taiwan is represented by a flag as they don't recognize it as a sovereign country. The Chinese Government doesn't, but the people do not represent the government. Though I don't know what regular Chinese Citizen's opinion of Taiwan is though.
I'd say that the vast majority of Chinese people, young and old, naturally and instinctively recognize Taiwan as a part of China.
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Nice! There is so many good players coming from China, they can def compete with the koreans.
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On December 16 2011 01:14 CakeSauc3 wrote:
中国！！！ GLHF, I really hope to see China step up to the plate and make international esports more interesting. Plus, I'm in China now and plan on living in China a lot in the future, would love to see a growing group of sc2 fans here so I can hang out with them :D
welcome to china,i think chinese union team would make up with Xigua,Loner,LoveTT,F91 and Macsed
if you would see groups of sc2 fans,i think you would go to Shanghai,Chengdu and Beijing,there are well sc2 atmosphere, or go to talking with fans by bbs if you can read chinese(http://bbs.plu.cn/forum-190-1.html)
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i see mainland china as a part of republic china 
on my part I see Taiwan as chinese and not taiwanese as my relatives originally came from Shandong after civil war. I cheer for every chinese player as well as for Sen.
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This should be interesting at the very least.
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i have to admit korean sc2 better than Chinese now, but "Its not shame on failing, but shame on coward"
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