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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#81
Great reaction by the team and a good explenation from Nani, we hope to see you inn Code-S!

Naniwa and Quantic fighting!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#82
"I really hope that what I’ve done won’t damage eSports" Naniwa is hurting E-SPORTS!

More on topic, that was a well written apology. I still stand by Naniwa and will continue to cheer for him.
really?
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#83
NANI FIGHTNG.. so it was actually nanis idea not Gom's???? perhpas they would of punished him with a fine if Nani hadnt offered to pull out... the plot thickens.lol
Live and Let Die!
Bounana
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:18:21
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#84
I hope that Naniwa really learns about this experience, he's a awesome player, but he need to grow up as a man. Anyway, good luck him, and I can't wait to see him in the next tournament !
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#85
Damage control from Quantic. I don't blame Naniwa for forfeiting a pointless game, but next time he can just proxy 2gate or something.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#86
I hope naniwa grows from this experience and becomes an even better progamer in the future.
raginglemon
Profile Joined September 2010
Japan64 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#87
Hopefully Naniwa did learn something from this incident, there's a level of professionalism that one has to uphold when being labeled as one. I love the fact that Naniwa only cares about winning tournaments above everything, but he did make the incorrect decision, and he is suffering the punishment. I'm glad he's taking it like a man though, good on him. Hopefully he'll be able to make it to code S later on in 2012.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#88
THIS is how you do an official statement.

Thank you Naniwa and Quantic.
We make signature, then defense it.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#89
On December 15 2011 06:12 WCX wrote:
Geeze, I can't shake the feeling that the Nani quote wasn't actually typed up by Nani himself but by some PR guy on the team. If you look at the grammar, sentence formations, etc. here and in every other interview or public statement Nani's made in the past, it's a completely different way of speaking.


I think it's pretty obvious some helped him phrase that, and told him what issues he should address as this is an official statement but I still believe it's real
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:20:17
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#90
On December 15 2011 06:16 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:11 FidoDido wrote:
When your own team doesn't condone your actions and makes formal apology is anyone still going to argue Naniwa is completely innocent?
I don't get why people are still making threads or posting in others and arguing that Naniwa didn't do anything wrong.
I truly hope Naniwa competes in prelims in the upcoming season instead of forfeiting completely and we can all put this behind us.


I think both Quantic and Naniwa understand that nothing good will come out of them arguing this further. GOMTV is to big and GSL to important to risk getting permbanned. They of course now that it was a childish thing of him to do so the best way to go is to just make an apologie and move on.

I think Quantic as well as the fans still belive though that GOMTV acted wrong and very rude and that they probably owe Naniwa an apologie of there own.


That's pretty much it. This a generous bone thrown solely to satisfy the hate train. Pretty soon another controversy will open up in esports land and this will all be forgotten.

I've still made up my mind not to support GOM for the next few months though, and no amount of reciprocation from them will solve that. They left me, as a consumer, with a very sour taste in my mouth about their product and what it stands for.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
blinken
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada368 Posts
December 14 2011 21:17 GMT
#91
On December 15 2011 06:14 RusHXceL wrote:
Naniwa did NOT write that.

someone else did, just my opinion.


And what a worthless opinion it is.

Even if he didn't write it, he stands by its contents. So what difference would it make?

It looks like it was simply edited, not written by someone else.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#92
GOGOGO NANIWA!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#93
On December 15 2011 06:15 m0ck wrote:
Well, pretty much a statement as expected. I hope tomorrow we see GOM being similar upfront about their responsibility for what took place. Bad tournament formats results in perverse incentives, and GOM should own up to that.

Yeah these are my thoughts as well. Naniwa's statement is really generous and respectful of GOM. I hope GOM has the sense to reciprocate.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Vodh
Profile Joined May 2010
68 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#94
These are some really wise and mature words, I sincerely hope that he indeed feels this way, because that would make me respect him (which I already do, mind you!) SO much more - Showing that you're able to improve beyond improving your game, to become a better, cooler person makes him pretty badass.
Are you ready, guys? Put ya gunz on!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#95
It's a valuable lesson, I hope it will teach him something and that he can avoid things like that in the future. Best of luck.
Ashenshugar
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden13 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#96
On December 15 2011 06:08 LiamTheZerg wrote:
I respect the team, but have lost any respect to Naniwa or his cut & paste apology. Being an adult and a professional means being able to control yourself, which is something he has failed to show he is capable of time and time again. Also, i dislike the asking to reconsider for a second chance. He openly disrespected GOM during a tournament that was meant to celebrate a great year of StarCraft. It's only a month, he can and should wait. I don't understand where everyone gets this sense of entitlement from. You mess up, you accept your punishment, and you learn from it for next time.


Gom didn't man up & take the blame & you're not criticizing that.. They didn't even apologize to the fans for the horrible tournament format that allowed this to happen - Naniwa did man up & apologize. If you read his statement you can see he's genuinely confused about this situation.

Silly bias is silly..
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#97
On December 15 2011 06:17 Tyrant0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:11 dala wrote:
Wow, in the past 24 hours NaNiwa has grown up!


Theres a strong statement I can say, but it's definitely not growing up. More like having his personality carved out of him.



Events like this are exactly the kind of kick that can make a person grow up. Or at least mature a lot. Let's hope that's what happened
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#98
On December 15 2011 06:16 ThatGuy89 wrote:
sorry, what exactly did naniwa do? i havent watched much sc2 in a while (fucking skyrim -_-)

He did a worker rush in a game against Nestea when they were both 0-3 in the group and neither had any chance of qualifing further..
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#99
On December 15 2011 06:17 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:15 StarStruck wrote:
Yet people will still find ways to demonize him. Watch.


sadly it has already happened. idiots saying that naniwa did not write that apology...christ this is why we can't have nice things.


there are always haters.

Naniwa haters

Gom haters

what's the difference? I see both of them
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
December 14 2011 21:19 GMT
#100
On December 15 2011 06:18 Ashenshugar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:08 LiamTheZerg wrote:
I respect the team, but have lost any respect to Naniwa or his cut & paste apology. Being an adult and a professional means being able to control yourself, which is something he has failed to show he is capable of time and time again. Also, i dislike the asking to reconsider for a second chance. He openly disrespected GOM during a tournament that was meant to celebrate a great year of StarCraft. It's only a month, he can and should wait. I don't understand where everyone gets this sense of entitlement from. You mess up, you accept your punishment, and you learn from it for next time.


Gom didn't man up & take the blame & you're not criticizing that.. They didn't even apologize to the fans for the horrible tournament format that allowed this to happen - Naniwa did man up & apologize. If you read his statement you can see he's genuinely confused about this situation.

Silly bias is silly..

You sir are as biased as him...
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