• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:05
CEST 02:05
KST 09:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway52v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature2Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Is there a way to see if 2 accounts=1 person?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway How do the new Battle.net ranks translate?
Tourneys
BWCL Season 63 Announcement Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1610 users

Blizzcup Group A Winners Interviews - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
December 12 2011 20:52 GMT
#81
cool interview

hints of DRG persuading MC to not try so hard against him so that he can be first in the group. DRG saying he won't buy MC dinner because MC was actually trying hard to win. Then in MC's interview, he assured stephano that was indeed trying to win even though there was nothing on the line for him.
you live and you learn
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 12 2011 20:59 GMT
#82
On December 13 2011 05:35 Trsjnica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:
On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.

DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc.

DRG jelly stephano's unique style or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.


Both DRG and MVP could be correct, of course.

For example, DRG may be referring specifically to Stephano's ZvZ, while MVP might be referring to his ZvT, etc.


Exactly. And I have to point out that those korean progamers can see much more from another player's gameplay than we can. There's no point arguing.
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#83
Maybe DRG can explain exactly what he meant himself.. seeing as he's already posted in the thread

Bit of a strange day really, could have been any of the top 4 who went through. In the end I'm happy that it was DRG, MVP and MC
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 12 2011 21:25 GMT
#84
anyone who thinks MC threw the game, either didnt watch the game or just consumed in negative energy.

If anything, it showed how much MC wanted to win.
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 22:44:15
December 12 2011 21:31 GMT
#85
MC lost on purpose(HE DIDNT CARE) for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.

User was warned for this post
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#86
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?


Oh shit. Don't bring it into this thread as well T_T Keep your conspiracy theories to LR threads, please.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 12 2011 21:40 GMT
#87
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.


Actually you shouldn't blame either. You should blame stephano for losing and then having to rely on MC to win to advance.

Great interviews thanks for the translations :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 12 2011 21:46 GMT
#88
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.

Man, how can people get away with comments like these... Did you even read the interviews?
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 12 2011 21:46 GMT
#89
On December 13 2011 06:40 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.


Actually you shouldn't blame either. You should blame stephano for losing and then having to rely on MC to win to advance.

Great interviews thanks for the translations :D


Well he won the same amount of matches as MC and we can argue about the format w/e but i still stick to my opinion that they should have played a tiebreaker match.
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
December 12 2011 21:47 GMT
#90
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.


Please shut the hell up... gosh... do you know why Apple has many anti-fans? because of fan boys. The same can be said about Stephano. He is a good player and all but you don't have the rights to bring down MC like this.
SlayerS_Min's Translator I Voluntary translator for the community I Commentator during Min's stream I Own channel coming soon
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 12 2011 21:47 GMT
#91
On December 13 2011 06:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure why would you make 6 phoenix and do 0 damage with them?Ofc he put up a show when it was already over. Also instead of trying to go into the main after seeing 10 spinecrawlers he should have killed the ex-gold base reducing DRG to 1 base and he would have had a chance to take the game.

Also it wasnt a fair system the ppl with 2-2 should have played a tiebreaker. You cant trust a person who has already advanced and no chance of taking 1st place.

And i dont blame MC i blame GOMTV for faulty format MC just did the obvious maybe not losing on purpose but he wasnt fighting for his life either and thats when he is the best.

Man, how can people get away with comments like these... Did you even read the interviews?


You take these interviews seriously? They just say what people want to hear. He is not going to go out there and say "i didnt care so w/e".
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 12 2011 21:54 GMT
#92
On December 13 2011 00:14 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:
On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.

DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc.

DRG jelly stephano's unique style or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.



He is proberly not very pleased he lost that ZvZ and was exstremly lucky to even make it out he should really thx the great sc 2 gods that Hero had nothing to play for and that MC got the worst map ever

The winner of a group where 3/5 advance was extremely lucky to advance?

The bias is strong in this one.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
December 12 2011 21:56 GMT
#93
Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 12 2011 21:58 GMT
#94
On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote:
Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.


I dont think he threw it so Stephano wouldnt advance i think he didnt care enough to play his best. As you like to quote the interview "it doesnt matter if you are 2nd or 3rd in your group"....yes he said it himself.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 12 2011 22:03 GMT
#95
MC's overall record vs DRG is 0-4 and he thinks facing him in the semis shouldn't be a problem? OK... :p
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 12 2011 22:04 GMT
#96
On December 13 2011 07:03 sitromit wrote:
MC's overall record vs DRG is 0-4 and he thinks facing him in the semis shouldn't be a problem? OK... :p

1-4 he beat him in KSL.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
December 12 2011 22:05 GMT
#97
On December 13 2011 06:58 careohx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:56 power-overwhelming wrote:
Well you guys are free to believe that MC threw the game so that Stephano wouldn't advance. But then again, Stephano himself said he doesn't trust koreans. He should've advanced on his own and not having to rely to anyone. His fault for losing to MC and MVP.


I dont think he threw it so Stephano wouldnt advance i think he didnt care enough to play his best. As you like to quote the interview "it doesnt matter if you are 2nd or 3rd in your group"....yes he said it himself.


This is a prime example of why people get misinformed easily in this forum. First of all

1. The translation itself says "to me 2nd and 3rd are the same" meaning that first was his goal but he failed.
2. It's a raw translation, so arguing over logistics is not even reasonable

But heres where contradiction and double standard fail in TL. Majority of the people (mostly MVP fans) are bashing MC for all-inning and dubbed him as terrible. Yet when MC loses to DRG "he didn't try". I understand the idea is the same - fueling MC hate - but be consistent (not directed at you, but to all the haters).

IF, IF MC did throw the game away, maybe because he just hates foreigner and DRG was his best friend in the world, so what? Stephano should've tried to win his games himself to advance.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 12 2011 22:06 GMT
#98
On December 13 2011 06:58 careohx wrote:
I dont think he threw it


On December 13 2011 06:31 careohx wrote:
MC lost on purpose for sure


Which one is true?
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
December 12 2011 22:09 GMT
#99
On December 13 2011 03:32 leo23 wrote:
Hmm different angles on stephano

MVP
+ Show Spoiler +
Q : How do you feel about Stephano?

After the first game was over, I watched his game. It was against Hero and I thought he was very good. I was even emotionally touched with his play. If he participates in a GSL Code A qualifier, I am sure he has a really high chance of getting into Code S. As far as I know he is the first player who used Infestor build, playing against him did tell me that he has a distinctive style. He has got a good game sense with his own unique style.


DRG
+ Show Spoiler +
Q : How do you feel about Stephano after playing against him?

I think he is a good player but his style is rather simple. His opponent can easily make a counter build-order against him. If players face Stephano bit more and take time to analyse his style, he should be a comfortable opponent. But his mechanics are solid.


Kinda funny to see the different feelings. You can tell MVP studied Stephano and had a clear build prepared for him


If I have to pick one, I would trust DRG's opinion more, just because he is a top zerg.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 12 2011 22:12 GMT
#100
"I also recently got a hobby of collecting trophies and having another one in my collection would make me happy."
MVP is such a nerd beast its scary lolol, I have to say i love this attitude from him hehe.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 108
Nina 102
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11263
Rain 2507
ggaemo 58
ToSsGirL 41
NaDa 37
Dota 2
syndereN1000
monkeys_forever269
NeuroSwarm116
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2528
C9.Mang0269
Other Games
tarik_tv19510
summit1g2679
Grubby2418
JimRising 522
PiGStarcraft503
Maynarde142
JuggernautJason27
ForJumy 25
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1704
BasetradeTV19
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta65
• RyuSc2 63
• musti20045 57
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki39
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra876
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
9h 55m
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
14h 55m
RotterdaM Event
15h 55m
Replay Cast
23h 55m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 10h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.