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On December 12 2011 23:26 Ivanov wrote:
"Blizzcup Group A Winners" would be a better title, I missed the cup today and I thought it was a 1-day tournament after seeing the title. I was sad until I realized it wasn't...
: ) Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately I do not have a permission to change the title once it is posted. So when I posted new interviews tomorrow, I will do that : )
thank you
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lol MVP's gf knows about teamliquid streams
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On December 12 2011 23:39 zyzq wrote:
lol MVP's gf knows about teamliquid streams
Why not? It is the best site for quality entertainment:D
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MVP is so incredibly easy to like. He seems so meek and unassuming, always in a somewhat fragile physical state--always gracious, whether in victory or defeat--but completely destroys people in-game, and mercilessly so. People who say he has a boring personality are crazy--his persona is almost straight out of an anime or Chinese folk story. He's the Badass Adorable Terran. ^^
Anyway, poor Hero. Everyone except him came out of the group looking great. Even though Stephano didn't make it out, he really proved himself to the community with his performance (no doubt he's turned many doubters into admirers); in contrast, judging from his lack of mention in the interviews, Hero might as well not have participated.
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MC if you read this you shouldn't all-in so much, in my opinion when we see you in macro games you shine the most! :D
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It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc.
DRG jelly stephano's unique style  or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.
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On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote:
I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players + Show Spoiler [proving me wrong] +On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote:
im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote:
Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote:
MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote:
Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
I stand corrected. And thoroughly ashamed and disappointed in a few members of teamliquid.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
i think DRG was talking about how Stephano does not use various builds.
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How was MC, who prepared a perfect ani-muta build, throwing the game away against DRG? And second, you usually perform better while relaxed than nervous, how many games did hero lose because of that? At least hero and mc didn't have to worry about anyting while playing him, their loses were legit. DRG has too many haters these days.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
hm perhpahs he only saw stephano doing mass roaches vs HerO and MC and never saw other games from him.
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I believe it's how Stephano doesn't indulge in mind games and quite often times over react to what he scouted.
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On December 13 2011 00:00 MuK_x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. DeMusliM said "its impossible to studying players like Stephano,he is unpredictable and playing with a lot of styles baneling/ling/muta,ling/muta,infestor/baneling etc. DRG jelly stephano's unique style or DRG jelly because stephano gets more attention than him.
He is proberly not very pleased he lost that ZvZ and was exstremly lucky to even make it out he should really thx the great sc 2 gods that Hero had nothing to play for and that MC got the worst map ever
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
Unique and simple aren't opposites. DRG may believe that Stephano's style is simple (composition, playstyle, or whatever) since he plays zerg and would have a better insight into timings, composition, build, and positioning. MVP may believe it is unique because no korean zerg do what Stephano does.
DRG believes that Stephano has good mechanics but his style can be figured out. MVP believes that Stephano can do well in Code A and get to Code S. Looking between both players comments, I would think that they both are very accurate, speak a bit into the mindset of korean players, and give us an insight into why Stephano does well.
(he plays well.)
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Hahaha this is why you shouldn't stream so much before a major competition. Players in the tournament stopped streaming a while back, and everyone was saying how koreans were going to be all over Stephano's stream.
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On December 13 2011 00:26 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique. Unique and simple aren't opposites. DRG may believe that Stephano's style is simple (composition, playstyle, or whatever) since he plays zerg and would have a better insight into timings, composition, build, and positioning. MVP may believe it is unique because no korean zerg do what Stephano does. DRG believes that Stephano has good mechanics but his style can be figured out. MVP believes that Stephano can do well in Code A and get to Code S. Looking between both players comments, I would think that they both are very accurate, speak a bit into the mindset of korean players, and give us an insight into why Stephano does well. (he plays well.)
haha, well put
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On December 13 2011 00:01 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:26 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:22 bbm wrote:On December 12 2011 23:16 MayorITC wrote:On December 12 2011 23:13 ladyumbra wrote:
I think it's cool that MVP's girlfriend helped him by recording stephano's stream, it's seriously not safe for players with distinctive playstyles to stream if they don't want to be studied to death. True, but sooner or later you will be analyzed. Personally, I think sooner is better because all professional players will need a wide variety of styles if they want to maintain dominance in the scene. That's one of the main things people always compliment MVP on. "I NEVER lost on purpose because DRG is Korea. I was not nervous at all and lost focus too much. I really didn't want to lose at all so I hope he doesn't misunderstand that game if he did. I haven't been into the finals for a long time. I hope I can get into the finals in Blizzcup and communicate with many fans at the finals." Shame on you Team Liquid for even suggesting that MC lost on purpose to DRG. I believe MC truly meant what he said. He's always been there for the foreign players and fans so it's disgusting how quickly some people can snub him and accuse him cheating for the sake of national pride. I don't think anyone was openly accusing MC of throwing the game... it was more just despair that a 3rd party's outcome is decided by a match between two unrelated players + Show Spoiler [proving me wrong] +On December 12 2011 20:47 ambrosiaa wrote:
im sure mc will let drg win so that the top 3 will be koreans. On December 12 2011 20:47 BBMorti wrote:
Of course MC will lose no matter what now, Koreans will help each others go on tbh. On December 12 2011 20:56 asdads wrote:
MC hates stephano imo he will purposely lose so another korean makes it through. Thats why stephano is so tense. IMO. On December 12 2011 21:18 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 21:15 Goibon wrote:On December 12 2011 21:14 MrCash wrote:
Not sure why, but the last game felt like watching a "pro-wrestling" match. I know what you mean. Hard to explain it though. Not hard to explain. You two think MC threw that game on purpose. Nice try. On December 12 2011 21:20 Holdinga wrote:
Dont hate on MC for losing the match, no Korean will F!@# over another Korean in these cases, it is absolutely normal. hate on the rules. It shouldnt have been head to head record, there should have been a final tie breaker, so loser plays versus Stephano
I stand corrected. And thoroughly ashamed and disappointed in a few members of teamliquid.
MC didn't throw the game at all but he did play less well then he usually does. The problem with having games that don't matter anymore for someone is that even though one player doesn't throw the game on purpose they are less motivated and will often play less well.
You can see very well that games where one player doesn't care as much they tend to play impatiently and want to finish it early. Hero vs DRG is a good example of this, where Hero tried various 2-base timings/tricks and MC vs DRG, MC was impatient as well.
I just don't get why the format wasn't some form of double elimation, it's a MUCH MUCH better format as all the games are always relevant for both players.. you'll never get to see games where one or even both players don't care anymore which is more fun for the audience and doesn't result in these silly scenario's where MC is basically playing on behalf of DRG.
It's also much better for the players as I can imagine it to be tricky to behave well in those games. Sometimes they have to do their best even if they don't care much because being blamed for match throwing is pretty huge in korea.. Also showing gratitude for one playing doing well or bad can be misinterpreted very easily.
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Thanks for the translations! I renamed it according to that guy's suggestion, PM me if you wanted something else Jun.
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On December 12 2011 23:56 Kinky wrote:
It's funny how DRG calls Stephano's style simple while MVP calls it unique.
Well to be completely fair, they were talking about different matchups. MVP was actually talking about Stephano's unique ZvP if I read that right.
Edit: Nevermind. MVP started talking about Stephano's ZvP but then mentioned his ZvT and all-around style in the last two sentences.
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Hail to the victors!
Oh dear, DRG seems miffed that TL underestimated him so much. I guess this win is like a huge slap in the face to everyone who voted against him.
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