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Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
December 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#21
He got a lucky bracket to begin with.
Kas run was way more impressive
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 15:59:29
December 11 2011 15:55 GMT
#22
Q: You finally played against a Korean player in the Finals, how do you feel about the skill gap between you?
A: It was fine actually, not that big, I made too many mistakes there.


It was not that big if he was referring to the overall gap between korean and chinese players, but between him and MVP it was just huuuuge.

..
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
December 11 2011 15:58 GMT
#23
Good fight Xigua! Thanks for the interview!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
December 11 2011 16:27 GMT
#24
The entire chinese scene is behind, because it was released much later in the region, all the builds, strategy, maps, and overall player skill are lower than the foreign scene becuase of this.

Xigua has probably played SC2 before the release in China, for sure.. and i doubt he plays on the Chinese server as the ladder there is horrible practice.
Sanz
Profile Joined December 2010
150 Posts
December 11 2011 16:30 GMT
#25
On December 12 2011 01:27 Toppp wrote:

Xigua has probably played SC2 before the release in China, for sure.. and i doubt he plays on the Chinese server as the ladder there is horrible practice.


Why is that? Never heard something about the chinese ladder. Just curious.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 11 2011 17:15 GMT
#26
To be short, the skill level of Chinese ladder is very low.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
December 11 2011 17:20 GMT
#27
On December 12 2011 00:33 aintz wrote:
skill level is not very close. im not even going to comment on the 2nd game because everyone knows he made so many bad mistakes. but the first game, why would u not block bunker placement with drones......,.

Wow fuck off. If the skill gap is not even close, then everyone xigua beat must suck a lot then right?

User was warned for this post
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 17:22:46
December 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#28
Xigua should come to korea and compete in the GSL since the skill gap is "not that big"!
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
December 11 2011 17:27 GMT
#29
HotS stands for Heart of the Swarm breaks. I like the way he put it
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 11 2011 17:29 GMT
#30
Someone should really color correct that picture...
Yargh
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
December 11 2011 17:33 GMT
#31
Don't know why people are angry over his statement about the skill gap. If he feels it's not that big then he obviously believes he can get close to it or even overcome it. People need to stop romanticizing MVP. People are so quick to lash out his wins but tend to forget his losses or make excuses for them. Fact is he lost to a foreigner in Naniwa at MLG, then to MC and Leenock, then to Leenock again in GSL. Though the latter are koreans, those same koreans have lost to foreigners as well.

While he got outplayed so bad, he certainly has the capability of improving enough to be able to take a game off koreans. Only a handful of people really has the "talent" of sc2 (and race has no bearing on that). Rest of it is just practice so I don't see why hard work can't put anyone to the level of korean pros.
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
December 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#32
Nice interview and hope seeing him in GSL or elsewhere
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#33
the interviewer asked a dumbass question, "do you think top koreans are much better," not pointing specifically at mvp.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 11 2011 17:39 GMT
#34
haha heartbreak of the swarm, i love it
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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
December 11 2011 17:43 GMT
#35
On December 12 2011 00:55 dinmsab wrote:
Q: You finally played against a Korean player in the Finals, how do you feel about the skill gap between you?
A: It was fine actually, not that big, I made too many mistakes there.


It was not that big if he was referring to the overall gap between korean and chinese players, but between him and MVP it was just huuuuge.



Yup, there's actually a massive mistranslation of actual words.

《电子竞技》杂志:终于在决赛和韩国人交手了,感觉和韩国顶尖选手的差距大吗?
Xigua:其实还好吧。感觉不是很大,主要是自己出了问题。

That actually refers to top Korean players, it doesn't point at mvp specifically.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 17:50:01
December 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#36
Chinese nationalism :/ lol. "Not that big" is just being silly and makes it hard to take the guy seriously. Its cool to see that iG might try to train in Korea. But wtf, using old maps? Poor chinese scene :/


On December 12 2011 01:30 Sanz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:27 Toppp wrote:

Xigua has probably played SC2 before the release in China, for sure.. and i doubt he plays on the Chinese server as the ladder there is horrible practice.


Why is that? Never heard something about the chinese ladder. Just curious.


Professionals such as Elfi have commented on the Chinese ladder being by far the worst ladder. Elfi said that he played a whole day and never lost a single game.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
December 11 2011 17:49 GMT
#37
On December 12 2011 02:43 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 00:55 dinmsab wrote:
Q: You finally played against a Korean player in the Finals, how do you feel about the skill gap between you?
A: It was fine actually, not that big, I made too many mistakes there.


It was not that big if he was referring to the overall gap between korean and chinese players, but between him and MVP it was just huuuuge.



Yup, there's actually a massive mistranslation of actual words.

《电子竞技》杂志:终于在决赛和韩国人交手了,感觉和韩国顶尖选手的差距大吗?
Xigua:其实还好吧。感觉不是很大,主要是自己出了问题。

That actually refers to top Korean players, it doesn't point at mvp specifically.


Yeah I made a big slump here, thx for pointing it out.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
swordboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada299 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 17:55:44
December 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#38
It doesn't matter anyway, he should just say the gap is very big and he played like a noob against MVP.

And yeah, HotS for Heartbreak of the Swarm, lol.
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fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
December 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#39
I can't dislike a guy who calls himself XiGua. Also, "Heart of the Swarm Breaks", lmfao nice.
CycoDude
Profile Joined November 2010
United States326 Posts
December 11 2011 17:55 GMT
#40
On December 11 2011 23:58 kruzzz wrote:
The Chinese always have great potential, too bad it wasn't a bo5 or 7 to fully showcase his talent.

couldn't agree more...how stupid to have a finals be a best of three only.
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