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MVP Winning WCG= Polt qualifying for the Blizzard - Page 13

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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
December 11 2011 07:41 GMT
#241
That's the dumbest shit ever lol.. first they have MMA now Polt, Xigua or Sen i think deserved 3rd and 4th spot

Polt's calibre in the GSL especially doesn't deserve a spot, it's like nobody gets the WCG spot at all
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
December 11 2011 07:42 GMT
#242
Are you serious? Polt is DA MAN!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 11 2011 07:50 GMT
#243
On December 11 2011 16:41 MildSeven wrote:
That's the dumbest shit ever lol.. first they have MMA now Polt, Xigua or Sen i think deserved 3rd and 4th spot

Polt's calibre in the GSL especially doesn't deserve a spot, it's like nobody gets the WCG spot at all

One couldn't get pass group stage, one lucked his way to the final facing no korean and got humiliated when he did.
Dr. Chae is way smarter than random fanboys.
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
December 11 2011 07:51 GMT
#244
I really think XiGua should have been invited instead of Polt...
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 11 2011 07:57 GMT
#245
No polt, xigua, sen etc., should not of been invited...
The person who should of been invited is the CURRENT GSL CHAMP JJakji.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 11 2011 07:59 GMT
#246
Expected and deserved. Good to have one more GSL champion in the list. Who knows, he might pull a few upsets too, never underestimate Polt.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
HydroOwl
Profile Joined November 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:02:50
December 11 2011 08:00 GMT
#247
They really messed up the invites in my opinion. I know a lot of people want to see Naniwa, but taking Providence 2nd place over GSL Nov champion is completely nonsensical. Then Polt, completely on a level below all the other players, instead of taking Sen for Blizzcon or Xigua for WCG. Like someone else said, they basically removed WCG and Blizzcon as invites by just taking more GSL ranked players. Makes no sense.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:03:24
December 11 2011 08:01 GMT
#248
On December 11 2011 16:51 Sorathez wrote:
I really think XiGua should have been invited instead of Polt...


Why? He didn't beat any Koreans on his way to the final and then got stomped by MVP. He would then have zero time to prepare for Nestea, Leenock, MMA and Naniwa, players he probably didn't study as much since WCG was on his mind. Polt has shown he can hang with everyone in his group.

Polt is in the tournament because of his consistent good play all season, especially during the second half. Just because he went 1-1 to Leenock (the runner-up) and threw a game against a very good player in Ganzi before drawing the unlucky stick of ForGG doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a shot.

Also, the whole tagline of the Blizzard Cup is about 10 champions. Sen and XiGua haven't won a championship this season; they would have been given a spot due to getting a silver or a bronze in a competition. MMA and Polt both won a GSL title in the past six months and both went deep a second time as well.

They really messed up the invites in my opinion. I know a lot of people want to see Naniwa, but taking Providence 2nd place over GSL Nov champion is completely nonsensical. Then Polt, completely on a level below all the other players, instead of taking Sen for Blizzcon or Xigua for WCG.


How the hell is Polt below Sen or XiGua? Polt has shown time and time again he can beat MMA; he went 1-1 with Leenock last GSL; his TvP is very good and can probably stand up against Naniwa. How did XiGua become better than Polt by getting to the finals of the WCG by not beating a single Korean along the way?

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
HydroOwl
Profile Joined November 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:10:17
December 11 2011 08:02 GMT
#249
How the hell is Polt below Sen or XiGua? Polt has shown time and time again he can beat MMA; he went 1-1 with Leenock last GSL; his TvP is very good and can probably stand up against Naniwa. How did XiGua become better than Polt by getting to the finals of the WCG by not beating a single Korean along the way?


I'll give you Xigua, but Sen is clearly one of the best foreigners and has consistently been near the top at multiple international tournaments. Polt hasn't done anything in months, and won the Super Tournament on more of a fluke than anything. He has never wowed with his play, to me at least. Also, it makes no sense to say, ok WCG winner and Blizzcon winner get seeds, then when MVP wins both they reach further down the GSL ranking list instead of taking the next highest placing player from those tournaments. Also, you mention taking champions, but what has Naniwa won? He beat a clearly off Nestea and MVP (both dropped games to Haypro) in the Global invitational (which was only like 2 rounds), and won MLG before any Koreans were there.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
December 11 2011 08:03 GMT
#250
I want to see jjakji @ the blizzard cup
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 11 2011 08:03 GMT
#251
The only player I would have been okay with replacing Polt or MMA would have been Jjakji. No one else has a gripe.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:09:39
December 11 2011 08:04 GMT
#252
On December 11 2011 16:41 MildSeven wrote:
That's the dumbest shit ever lol.. first they have MMA now Polt, Xigua or Sen i think deserved 3rd and 4th spot

Polt's caliber in the GSL especially doesn't deserve a spot, it's like nobody gets the WCG spot at all


what a dump fan-boy
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 11 2011 08:05 GMT
#253
Not sure why people are so upset at Polt, he has never shown lousy games. He can usually make it entertaining even when he's behind from the start.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 11 2011 08:09 GMT
#254
On December 11 2011 17:00 HydroOwl wrote:
They really messed up the invites in my opinion. I know a lot of people want to see Naniwa, but taking Providence 2nd place over GSL Nov champion is completely nonsensical. Then Polt, completely on a level below all the other players, instead of taking Sen for Blizzcon or Xigua for WCG. Like someone else said, they basically removed WCG and Blizzcon as invites by just taking more GSL ranked players. Makes no sense.


Having a tournament of champions without the Reigning GSL champ is a bit funny don't you think? ^-^;;;
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
December 11 2011 08:11 GMT
#255
They should have given the spot to Xigua....
Hell, it's about time
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:16:53
December 11 2011 08:14 GMT
#256
On December 11 2011 17:02 HydroOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +
How the hell is Polt below Sen or XiGua? Polt has shown time and time again he can beat MMA; he went 1-1 with Leenock last GSL; his TvP is very good and can probably stand up against Naniwa. How did XiGua become better than Polt by getting to the finals of the WCG by not beating a single Korean along the way?


I'll give you Xigua, but Sen is clearly one of the best foreigners and has consistently been near the top at multiple international tournaments. Polt hasn't done anything in months, and won the Super Tournament on more of a fluke than anything. He has never wowed with his play, to me at least. Also, it makes no sense to say, ok WCG winner and Blizzcon winner get seeds, then when MVP wins both they reach further down the GSL ranking list instead of taking the next highest placing player from those tournaments.


Actually I think it makes a lot of sense. Being 4th or 5th in GSL points for the entire year is a hell of a lot harder than getting second in a single tournament. Who did Xigua beat? He took two Bo1s off of Kas and Happy, then went through Snute, F91, and Titan... Polt won the Super Tournament against much better competition and was consistently Code S until this past month, where he lost to Ganzi, went 1-1 with Leenock, and then lost to fOrGG in Code A.

This thread is just making my head hurt. I don't follow the SC2 scene in China, so I don't know if Xigua has earned a reputation as being an incredible player, but apart from that I don't see how anyone could argue that getting second in WCG compares in any way to Polt's achievements in the past year. If you don't like Polt, that's fine, I'm not a particular fan of him myself -- but trying to say he doesn't deserve a spot just seems like such an unfounded insult >.>
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 11 2011 08:15 GMT
#257
Grats Polt. Now justify your spot. Ta.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
HydroOwl
Profile Joined November 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:19:52
December 11 2011 08:17 GMT
#258
On December 11 2011 17:14 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 17:02 HydroOwl wrote:
How the hell is Polt below Sen or XiGua? Polt has shown time and time again he can beat MMA; he went 1-1 with Leenock last GSL; his TvP is very good and can probably stand up against Naniwa. How did XiGua become better than Polt by getting to the finals of the WCG by not beating a single Korean along the way?


I'll give you Xigua, but Sen is clearly one of the best foreigners and has consistently been near the top at multiple international tournaments. Polt hasn't done anything in months, and won the Super Tournament on more of a fluke than anything. He has never wowed with his play, to me at least. Also, it makes no sense to say, ok WCG winner and Blizzcon winner get seeds, then when MVP wins both they reach further down the GSL ranking list instead of taking the next highest placing player from those tournaments.


Actually I think it makes a lot of sense. Being 4th or 5th in GSL points for the entire year is a hell of a lot harder than getting second in a single tournament. Who did Xigua beat? He took two Bo1s off of Kas and Happy, then went through Snute, F91, and Titan... Polt won the Super Tournament against much better competition and was consistently Code S until this past month, where he lost to Ganzi, went 1-1 with Leenock, and then lost to fOrGG in Code A.


I do agree, but then why say you are taking the WCG and Blizzcon champion at all? And taking the Providence runner up is really dumb IMO. If Xigua beat MVP and won WCG, would he really deserve to be in Blizzard Cup? No, not really, but then that shouldn't have been an invite to begin with. Not to mention, taking the GSL Nov champion makes way more sense. Jjakji's play is leaps and bounds more impressive than Polt's ever was, and he is much more relevant in the current SC2 scene.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 11 2011 08:18 GMT
#259
Guys, don't blame Mr. Chae. Blame MVP
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 11 2011 08:19 GMT
#260
I have to agree with the people who are saying Xigua doesn't deserve the spot for second place. Second place doesn't even mean he did the second best in the tournament. Players like Kas or MKP may have been more deserving, but they were in the more difficult half of the bracket.

If anything Jjakji should get the spot, but Polt has shown incredible consistency up until recently, and regardless he is still a very strong player so I don't think it is the worst decision.

As for people suggestion Sen... how do you even justify picking him? "Oh he did pretty well in tournaments and stuff." You can say that about a lot of top players as well. I think the idea of this tournament is to offer positions into the tournament for winning prestigious tournaments, or being consistent in the most difficult league... the GSL. I don't think Polt is the most deserving as I've said, but I don't think this is an unreasonable choice.
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