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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 05 2011 11:21 GMT
#21
On December 05 2011 20:17 StiX wrote:
Does anyone thinks its funny that in:
PvT Protoss has the better end
ZvT Terran has the better end
ZvP Zerg has the better end
?


Ït hasn't been so balanced in a long time.
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murphs
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland417 Posts
December 05 2011 11:24 GMT
#22
Looking better but I do think that Terran should have a few months of sub 40%, they deserve it
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
December 05 2011 11:26 GMT
#23
On December 05 2011 20:17 StiX wrote:
Does anyone thinks its funny that in:
PvT Protoss has the better end
ZvT Terran has the better end
ZvP Zerg has the better end
?

Finally Blizzard has realized the benefits of copying BW.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 05 2011 11:27 GMT
#24
On December 05 2011 20:17 StiX wrote:
Does anyone thinks its funny that in:
PvT Protoss has the better end
ZvT Terran has the better end
ZvP Zerg has the better end
?

Yeah I'm like what the fuck. This means OVERALL the statistics are the same, but specific matchups are actually broken.
One question how do you fix this? xD
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:33:13
December 05 2011 11:28 GMT
#25
On December 05 2011 20:16 red4ce wrote:
So the big question is, how do you balance PvZ without screwing up TvP or vice versa.

Lol TvP is screw'd up aswell. You are obviously protoss and I'm obviously terran :DD. I think we should just leave it it's unfair, but better than before.
Ohh and TvZ is fine 4% difference is fine The 7% in ZvP is a little worse and 8.4 in TvP is pretty bad.
It's funny tho my TvP is around 75% win rate and my TvZ is around 30%
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hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
December 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#26
On December 05 2011 19:52 fraktoasters wrote:
Well PvT changed pretty dramatically. I'm just glad the protoss whining has calmed down a lot because it was at a pretty ridiculous level at one point.


Don't get your hopes up too early xD
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
December 05 2011 11:30 GMT
#27
They need to reduce bunker build time obviously. This will fix everything. Oh and make Archons better against air and worse against ground.
k10forgotten
Profile Joined September 2010
Brazil260 Posts
December 05 2011 11:33 GMT
#28
On December 05 2011 19:52 fraktoasters wrote:
Well PvT changed pretty dramatically. I'm just glad the protoss whining has calmed down a lot because it was at a pretty ridiculous level at one point.

I hope you don't mind the Terran whining that's already started.
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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:37:19
December 05 2011 11:34 GMT
#29
looks like tvp might have flipped and zvp is getting close to balanced. The averaged curves really confuse things.


On December 05 2011 20:17 StiX wrote:u.
Does anyone thinks its funny that in:
PvT Protoss has the better end
ZvT Terran has the better end
ZvP Zerg has the better end
?



the "better end" terran gets in tvz is so minimal that it's not in any way significant. 52% winrate means that it is a very fair match
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#30
On December 05 2011 20:30 secretary bird wrote:
They need to reduce bunker build time obviously. This will fix everything. Oh and make Archons better against air and worse against ground.

How will that fix anything? I think it will just make TvP even worse if the build time gets increased a lot because the first stalker is deadly without a bunker or it will just force a bunker sooner resulting in delaying the 3rd raxx
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#31
Oh god, Terran win rate at 49.1%, get ready everyone!

I'm just kidding, or am I?

In all actuality, this chart would have looked a lot different since it didn't count the end of tournaments, such as NASL & GSL. Next month the terran % will be a bit higher in both vP and vZ, as a terran was the victor in both cases (and beat out other Z's and P's in the semi's/quarters etc.

Overall the game is actually pretty balanced obviously, but to me it's just....lacking substance.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
December 05 2011 11:37 GMT
#32
Ok wtf@ PvT graph :D ZvP tho... =(
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#33
I've got an idea that will fix everything actually buff marauders and buff roaches (Soo they trade as cost inefficiently as they did before with marauders)= better, but that'd be a lame solution because marauders are a dumb unit, but in theory it should fix the match ups
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#34
On December 05 2011 20:33 k10forgotten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 19:52 fraktoasters wrote:
Well PvT changed pretty dramatically. I'm just glad the protoss whining has calmed down a lot because it was at a pretty ridiculous level at one point.

I hope you don't mind the Terran whining that's already started.


Oh it has begun. There are some amazing threads about "SC2 is like.....hard now". Now that they have to aim their EMPs and can no longer stick on MMMGV for the entire game, we might see them not fly their factory around as much.

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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 05 2011 11:38 GMT
#35
Wow Terran is at the lowest it's ever been...49.1%. Looks pretty balanced to me :D
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
December 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#36
On December 05 2011 20:36 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:30 secretary bird wrote:
They need to reduce bunker build time obviously. This will fix everything. Oh and make Archons better against air and worse against ground.

How will that fix anything? I think it will just make TvP even worse if the build time gets increased a lot because the first stalker is deadly without a bunker or it will just force a bunker sooner resulting in delaying the 3rd raxx


How far is Slovenia from Romania anyways?
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:40:41
December 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#37
edit: nvm, missread it
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#38
On December 05 2011 20:37 Silidons wrote:

Overall the game is actually pretty balanced obviously, but to me it's just....lacking substance.

I agree what people don't realize you actually need imbalance soo metagame shifts happen more often and it's more fun that's why I'm waiting for the HoTS craziness. I can't wait for the beta where the balance will be shit and I'll be able to do all gimcky shit :DDDDD.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:54:08
December 05 2011 11:44 GMT
#39
On December 05 2011 20:39 Garm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:36 thezanursic wrote:
On December 05 2011 20:30 secretary bird wrote:
They need to reduce bunker build time obviously. This will fix everything. Oh and make Archons better against air and worse against ground.

How will that fix anything? I think it will just make TvP even worse if the build time gets increased a lot because the first stalker is deadly without a bunker or it will just force a bunker sooner resulting in delaying the 3rd raxx


How far is Slovenia from Romania anyways?

Hungary is inbetween we are fine tho. We aren't actually in the Balkan tho Central europe we were in Jugoslavia, but thanks to being in the north and the friendly austro hungarian empire who developed a pretty good industry in the north we are very good compared to the rest, but we are still going to shit with the rest of EU.
Ohh and you could just check wikipedia xD It's not that hard

Per capita, it is the richest Slavic nation-state, at 85.5% of the EU27 average GDP (PPP) per capita.

We are still getting screw'd by the reccesion, but I think I can safely say we got the better end of a shitty stick. I could write you a report, but I'm derailing the thread xD
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secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
December 05 2011 11:51 GMT
#40
On December 05 2011 20:36 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:30 secretary bird wrote:
They need to reduce bunker build time obviously. This will fix everything. Oh and make Archons better against air and worse against ground.

How will that fix anything? I think it will just make TvP even worse if the build time gets increased a lot because the first stalker is deadly without a bunker or it will just force a bunker sooner resulting in delaying the 3rd raxx


1. I wrote reduce not increase.

2. Its a joke because blizzard has some kind of bunker change in 9/10 patches for some reason.
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