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Do not derail this thread with the BM controversy.
Use this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318860

I will start handing out temp bans for derailing this thread starting page 29.

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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19201 Posts
March 08 2012 03:26 GMT
#241
plug lp more :|
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CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
March 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#242
Hey Orb. I think you are awesome. Keep up the work dude.
Cylluus
Profile Joined November 2011
United States153 Posts
March 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#243
Kind of annoying to see people commenting on his personal stream behavior.

This thread is not for his personal stream, it's for feedback on his professional casting.

That being said, I should leave some feedback of my own. Love your casting; I really enjoyed watching the Korean Weekly especially since you guys brought in Adebisi. You two make a great combination, although I must say you sometimes tend to keep him silent with as much as you say. I do think that's because you solo casted for a while and you probably just got used to talking a lot. I love how much knowledge of the game you have and how analytical you are. Keep it up!
Ressonance
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil14 Posts
March 08 2012 04:27 GMT
#244
On March 08 2012 12:35 Cylluus wrote:
Kind of annoying to see people commenting on his personal stream behavior.

This thread is not for his personal stream, it's for feedback on his professional casting.

That being said, I should leave some feedback of my own. Love your casting; I really enjoyed watching the Korean Weekly especially since you guys brought in Adebisi. You two make a great combination, although I must say you sometimes tend to keep him silent with as much as you say. I do think that's because you solo casted for a while and you probably just got used to talking a lot. I love how much knowledge of the game you have and how analytical you are. Keep it up!


It would be ok if he BM'd in smurf accounts or when he is not streamming.
A caster can't BM, it's unprofessional as fuck and I think people want esports to be something serious, right?

Sorry for my bad english btw.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 08 2012 04:30 GMT
#245
On March 08 2012 12:35 Cylluus wrote:
Kind of annoying to see people commenting on his personal stream behavior.

This thread is not for his personal stream, it's for feedback on his professional casting.

That being said, I should leave some feedback of my own. Love your casting; I really enjoyed watching the Korean Weekly especially since you guys brought in Adebisi. You two make a great combination, although I must say you sometimes tend to keep him silent with as much as you say. I do think that's because you solo casted for a while and you probably just got used to talking a lot. I love how much knowledge of the game you have and how analytical you are. Keep it up!


Random ladder player, then yeah it doesn't matter. A caster doing it? Of course it matters. Can you imagine if day9 acted like orb does on his dailies? Your personal stream reflects your true character.
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Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 04:38:06
March 08 2012 04:34 GMT
#246
Orb- I like your commentary, but I don't think you'll last long casting for any professional organization going on like this..
If you want to be a public figure you have to learn how to act like one and control yourself in any public setting. You don't see any professional person of any organization calling people "retards" and "niggers" in any public setting do you?

It is not acceptable that just because you're on your on stream you think you can say whatever you want. There will be consequences down the road as far as getting casting jobs.. Why would anyone choose to hire and associate themselves with a person that publicly makes these types of remarks? I wouldn't.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 08 2012 04:37 GMT
#247
Orb's occasional BM on ladder is since forever and is unique and complementary to his otherwise highly intelligent character. People living under rocks now throwing them around. As though Artosis doesn't rage hard on ladder too occasionally.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 04:39:32
March 08 2012 04:38 GMT
#248
On March 08 2012 12:23 quickclickz wrote:
^ Typing words instead of using your fists and engaging in violence is actually NOT a good way to control your anger?

And I don't know what else to think of people who believe orb is trying to act "cool" when it's clearly obvious these "cool things" would alienate his viewers, so yes retard and mentally deficient would be viable adjectives for those people described above. You prefer him saying "I'm pretty sure you have an IQ of a rock?" to explain the complete lack of logic being displayed.


Insulting others with racial and hateful slurs is NOT controlling your anger. Simply calling someone names also isn't an effective way to demonstrate their lack of intelligence.

If orb was interested in people in his stream chat being logical or right, or people he plays/encounters in general, the best way to get them to understand him would be with a simple logical explanation of the flaws in their thinking. Orb isn't interested in that, or else is pursuing it in a foolish manner; what orb appears from his actions to be concerned with, is whether he is the better or "superior" person, so he demeans others with racial slurs etc. to make them seem worse than hi or "inferior".

tl;dr: orb just wants to assert his superiority or else he would explain instead of rage
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 08 2012 04:52 GMT
#249
Orb,

After the post of you calling someone a racial slur, I will no longer be watching your casts. I can deal with BM, I think we all can to some degree. We love idra etc. But racial slurs is taking it a few steps too far.
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 05:03:48
March 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#250
On March 08 2012 13:37 figq wrote:
Orb's occasional BM on ladder is since forever and is unique and complementary to his otherwise highly intelligent character. People living under rocks now throwing them around. As though Artosis doesn't rage hard on ladder too occasionally.


If Artosis went around calling people the n-word, I'd want him gone ASAP too.

EDIT: This isn't only about those pictures on reddit, Orb did this in beta too.
Ectrid
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany51 Posts
March 08 2012 05:04 GMT
#251
On March 08 2012 13:27 Ressonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 12:35 Cylluus wrote:
Kind of annoying to see people commenting on his personal stream behavior.

This thread is not for his personal stream, it's for feedback on his professional casting.

That being said, I should leave some feedback of my own. Love your casting; I really enjoyed watching the Korean Weekly especially since you guys brought in Adebisi. You two make a great combination, although I must say you sometimes tend to keep him silent with as much as you say. I do think that's because you solo casted for a while and you probably just got used to talking a lot. I love how much knowledge of the game you have and how analytical you are. Keep it up!


It would be ok if he BM'd in smurf accounts or when he is not streamming.
A caster can't BM, it's unprofessional as fuck and I think people want esports to be something serious, right?

Sorry for my bad english btw.


that's just absolutely fascistic...
i want e-sports to be something real, not serious... not a fucking marketing joke, where everything comes down to domestic synchronization, just to fit the masses and to make the most money possible.

while orb can do what ever he likes on his own personal stream, i don't think he will have much success with his current attitude on an international and big audience. but that comes down to the viewer ship and the producers.
Nobody is more a slave than the one who considers himself free without being free
AGsc
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 05:11:21
March 08 2012 05:07 GMT
#252
Nevermind I caught myself arguing with the internets.
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
March 08 2012 05:09 GMT
#253
I have been extremely impressed by your casting this EG masters cup. I really thing you and incontrol make an excellent duo. I only wish every casting pair was as smart, unpretentious, and relaxed.
Never Forget.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
March 08 2012 05:13 GMT
#254
On March 08 2012 13:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Orb,

After the post of you calling someone a racial slur, I will no longer be watching your casts. I can deal with BM, I think we all can to some degree. We love idra etc. But racial slurs is taking it a few steps too far.


He said it was someone else on his account, yes, it is his fault to an extent, but to say at the least EG will be keeping a very short leesh on him.

On actual feedback, Orb you work really well with someone like incontrol, but I'm not a fan of you with someone like Gretorp.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 08 2012 05:16 GMT
#255
You should try to slow down a bit when you are talking, and hoenstly I hate when you solo cast, but I do like your casts you are doing with incontrol and demuslim. You work great as a play by play. Also try to throw it to the analysis caster more often during down time in a game instead of random chit chat. Other than that good job.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
March 08 2012 05:20 GMT
#256
Yo orb, if you tone down on the general bigotry and hate-mongering, you'll be in the clear!

So I guess just work on what seems to be a deep-set, inherent, and ingrained racism and your casting will be perfect.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2012 05:21 GMT
#257
<3 your casting glad to see you co cast some more. Hope you don't let yourself get dragged down by those sopa fans (the ones wanting evidence and will hold you guilty until you proof otherwise, thats the essence of sopa, thats why they are sopa fans.)

But sharing accounts is bad karma so don't do it :p.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
March 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#258
You really shouldn't be a racist. People don't like racists.

#2throwed
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 08 2012 05:26 GMT
#259
On March 08 2012 14:02 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 13:37 figq wrote:
Orb's occasional BM on ladder is since forever and is unique and complementary to his otherwise highly intelligent character. People living under rocks now throwing them around. As though Artosis doesn't rage hard on ladder too occasionally.


If Artosis went around calling people the n-word, I'd want him gone ASAP too.

EDIT: This isn't only about those pictures on reddit, Orb did this in beta too.
Orb didn't call a person "nigger", he used "nigger" as a derogatory adjective for the strategy itself, not the person. "Nigger" used in a general derogatory way is actually very common among black people and is anything but a sign of racism in this case.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Trevoc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
March 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#260
You do tend to talk a little bit too much, but I guess that is what your job is after all. Your insight is keen and I enjoy that.
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