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On December 03 2011 16:27 ForlornHope wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:24 Mioraka wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Well....mouz did win EG masters cup two times.... Sure, EG has more individual results, but I wouldn't say they are that far apart. Huk is the best foreign protoss, but Mana has also performed really well in many events. Morrow is slightly less accomplished than Idra, but still one of the best zergs in the foreign scene. Thorzain is the best foreign Terran, period. Puma and thorzain should have an interesting match, but there is no tell who will win. Together with Liquid, these three teams are currently the best foreign teams. with recent result i wouldnt say Huk is the best foreigner protoss
With current play no ... That's for Naniwa, overal on this year yes you would be correct.
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On December 03 2011 16:28 mTw|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:26 Kiarip wrote:On December 03 2011 16:17 ForlornHope wrote:On December 03 2011 16:07 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:02 ForlornHope wrote:On December 03 2011 16:00 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:On December 03 2011 15:43 ForlornHope wrote:On December 03 2011 15:35 synapse wrote:On December 03 2011 15:16 gulati wrote:
The simple fact remains that Mouz is still killing EG (Hasu > Huk // Thorzain > Demu), and EG isn't killing Mouz, as of yet, so EG looks quite silly. Hasu vs HuK was very close and Thorzain (arguably mouz's best player) > Demuslim (the weakest of EG's 4 players here) wasn't exactly unexpected... Mana is Mouz s' ace not thorzain and demuslim is better than Huk demuslim is not better then huk what are you thinking lol Huk has one the shitty plays i have ever seen We talking about the same Huk? EGHuk and bad plays shouldn't be in the same sentence. Why do ppl keep saying EG is getting shit on. PVP is a coilflip and demuslim didnt even have a computer for a month because of visa problems. Everybody knows EG has a better roster than mouz. and the critics are canadians and americans lol User was warned for this post HuK is really damn good. THe issue is that the former WC3 euro's are really good at PvP and hasuobs is one of those. So HuK lost... Demuslim against Thorzain was Thorzain's current best match up, and Thorzain is the second best player on Mouz after Mana (or maybe even best) while Demuslim is probably the worst out of the 4 that EG has at NASL... If it was something like Huk vs Mana, and IdrA vs Thorzain and Puma vs Hasuobs, I think we could have easily seen EG go 3-0. I'm still not sure about morrow and just how good he is though. Not going to explain to you that you can never really judge MorroW. He can beat anyone if he's prepared. Also HasuObs can and did show that he can beat nearly anyone in any match up. Be it PvT PvZ or PvP
Puma's TvP is the best of any player that actively competes in foreign tournaments, and he only really loses TvPs against Mana.
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On December 03 2011 16:27 ForlornHope wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:24 Mioraka wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Well....mouz did win EG masters cup two times.... Sure, EG has more individual results, but I wouldn't say they are that far apart. Huk is the best foreign protoss, but Mana has also performed really well in many events. Morrow is slightly less accomplished than Idra, but still one of the best zergs in the foreign scene. Thorzain is the best foreign Terran, period. Puma and thorzain should have an interesting match, but there is no tell who will win. Together with Liquid, these three teams are currently the best foreign teams. with recent result i wouldnt say Huk is the best foreigner protoss
Uhuh, MLG orlando isn't even 2 months old.
Every player has ups and downs, especially when travelling so intensively.
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On December 03 2011 16:24 ForlornHope wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:23 Luepert wrote:
I wasn't thinking too much but when it dawned on me that Mouz got 4 into the top 16 I realized they are actually a TOP tier team. I always just mentally associated them with the other random European teams like Empire, Virus and Mill. Mouz is best foreigner team everyone know that accept for u i guess
Well obviously, I just can't believe I didn't realize it until now!
Wonder how long it is until they pick up a Korean.
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On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings.
Actually, to correct you even further, subtract everything from HuK, except the +$18,700 after Raleigh. HuK was a loyal member of Team Liquid previously 
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On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings.
He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team.
He just stayed at their house. 
User was temp banned for a history of horrible posts.
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On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house.
And that somehow makes his NASL S1 victory count towards EG?
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On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house.
Does not change a thing that those stats are not even close to being accurate.
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On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house.
You are wrong. Puma was on TSL. The transactions between EG and TSL for Puma was created, and is semi-publicly documented. Refer to Team Liquid's search function to read up on how the acquisition occurred, please, and you will also be able to read the Korean backlash that occurred against EG momentarily, but which was later clarified. Thanks.
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On December 03 2011 16:31 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:24 ForlornHope wrote:On December 03 2011 16:23 Luepert wrote:
I wasn't thinking too much but when it dawned on me that Mouz got 4 into the top 16 I realized they are actually a TOP tier team. I always just mentally associated them with the other random European teams like Empire, Virus and Mill. Mouz is best foreigner team everyone know that accept for u i guess Well obviously, I just can't believe I didn't realize it until now! Wonder how long it is until they pick up a Korean.
It's kind of hard to place them as the best foreigner team, but as I said, results and roaster wise, they are definitely one of the few teams that's up there with liquid and EG.
Dignitas used to be equal when they had naniwa, but without him, complexity fnatic and dignitas are certainly a little below the big three.
Of course, im only talking about Sc2.
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On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house.
Quite a poor attempt to be funny...
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On December 03 2011 16:34 gulati wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house. You are wrong. Puma was on TSL. The transactions between EG and TSL for Puma was created, and is semi-publicly documented. Refer to Team Liquid's search function to read up on how the acquisition occurred, please, and you will also be able to read the Korean backlash that occurred against EG momentarily, but which was later clarified. Thanks.
Woah somebody is being very passive aggressive here.
Regardless loose contracts might as well not be contracts at all. And the money is Puma's and if hes on team EG it also goes towards their gains. Really not that difficult to understand.
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On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house.
So then the whole EG vs TSL fiasco wasn't over Puma then?
Also thanks to the poster for correcting my mistake in not realizing much of the money Huk has earned was under the Team Liquid banner.
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On December 03 2011 16:38 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:34 gulati wrote:On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house. You are wrong. Puma was on TSL. The transactions between EG and TSL for Puma was created, and is semi-publicly documented. Refer to Team Liquid's search function to read up on how the acquisition occurred, please, and you will also be able to read the Korean backlash that occurred against EG momentarily, but which was later clarified. Thanks. Woah somebody is being very passive aggressive here. Regardless loose contracts might as well not be contracts at all. And the money is Puma's and if hes on team EG it also goes towards their gains. Really not that difficult to understand.
So Naniwa's MLG prize should be credited to his membership of coL? Give me a break. You are utterly defying basic logic
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On December 03 2011 16:34 Mioraka wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:31 Luepert wrote:On December 03 2011 16:24 ForlornHope wrote:On December 03 2011 16:23 Luepert wrote:
I wasn't thinking too much but when it dawned on me that Mouz got 4 into the top 16 I realized they are actually a TOP tier team. I always just mentally associated them with the other random European teams like Empire, Virus and Mill. Mouz is best foreigner team everyone know that accept for u i guess Well obviously, I just can't believe I didn't realize it until now! Wonder how long it is until they pick up a Korean. It's kind of hard to place them as the best foreigner team, but as I said, results and roaster wise, they are definitely one of the few teams that's up there with liquid and EG. Dignitas used to be equal when they had naniwa, but without him, complexity fnatic and dignitas are certainly a little below the big three. Of course, im only talking about Sc2.
HAHA. I keep thinking of Idra and Huk wearing a Leghorn costume!
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Can't we just all agree that its entertaining that they're having a little fun with it all?
As far as tourney wins goes there are no comparisons. However both are excellent foreign teams and have many fan favorites on each. Instead of constantly trying to attack the opposing team root for your own but respect a loss if your favorite was outplayed.
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On December 03 2011 16:38 Tippecanoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:34 gulati wrote:On December 03 2011 16:32 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings. He never signed a contract with TSL therefore he was never officially on the team. He just stayed at their house. You are wrong. Puma was on TSL. The transactions between EG and TSL for Puma was created, and is semi-publicly documented. Refer to Team Liquid's search function to read up on how the acquisition occurred, please, and you will also be able to read the Korean backlash that occurred against EG momentarily, but which was later clarified. Thanks. Woah somebody is being very passive aggressive here. Regardless loose contracts might as well not be contracts at all. And the money is Puma's and if hes on team EG it also goes towards their gains. Really not that difficult to understand.
You clearly don't understand how Korean progaming works. They don't revolve around "contracts" as much as American's do. I don't think that's necessarily a good or bad thing, but then with your faulty, immature logic, I can go ahead and say to remove NesTea, MVP, and MC's earnings too, because their contracts should "might as well not be contracts at all"? I guess that means that Quantic Gaming has upwards of $500K+ in earnings (not anymore since they disbanded their partnership), and SK has over $222K+ in earnings from MC, right?! Yeah! Fuck yeah, bro man dog!
And ok. I'll have Native American's be the founders of America, but credit it towards Christopher Columbus, because... he found it afterwards...?!
You make me giggle.
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rooting for mouz because obviously a german clan and one of the most awesome clan names (mousesports, obviously).
plus they were always awesome. period.
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EG Fighting! Let's go PuMa.
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On December 03 2011 16:28 metbull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2011 16:26 Tippecanoe wrote:On December 03 2011 16:21 hrvoje07 wrote:On December 03 2011 16:18 Kmickelow wrote:
Just because EG winning less games THUS FAR, does not mean mouz is better. But simply just winning more games at this event. I mean i do not think mouz will ever touch EG's success. THough id hope they do just for esports. To my knowledge EG has produced more results/prize money. But i enjoy both teams, both have good players. GL BOTH Ye, those two EG masters cup don't mean anything as well, bro ! http://sc2earnings.com/team/5/evil-geniuses5th http://sc2earnings.com/team/30/mousesports11th Subtract $50,000 from the EG team total. Puma was a member of TSL when he won NASL season 1, not EG. Therefore those earnings should not count towards EG's earnings.
and alot from huks earnings
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