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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
Official statement here: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/17950-statement-gosugamers-stop-all-pro-team-efforts?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter From twitter: NEWS: STATEMENT: GosuGamers stop all pro team efforts http://bit.ly/rp1KUd Anyone's thoughts? Not often a team has failed in SC2, least that I can remember EDIT: Can see the title was misleading The Pro gaming team has been shut down 
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Grettin
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e. edited out some. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
E; Yea, gl in the future for everyone involved. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
Sucks about their team though, but I rarely heard anything from them in terms of results. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
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Nighthawks28
United States232 Posts
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
On December 02 2011 23:27 DKR wrote: Anyone's thoughts? Not often a team has failed in SC2, least that I can remember Lazarus Gaming disbanded, thats one. | ||
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deanx
United States78 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
ROOT also disbanded, granted a lot of the players went to complexity. | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:58 ishboh wrote: ROOT also disbanded, granted a lot of the players went to complexity. Praetoriani also disbanded, didn't they? | ||
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
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sopas
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wemadefox ? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:07 iNcontroL wrote: they did next to nothing with/for their progamer team... I wanted them to try and rival TL as they have some good history there but instead all I heard from them was a team barely advertised with very little support and then today it died o-O Too true, I imagined that as soon as they were announced. I hope that Lastshadow can find a team that fits him. | ||
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
We were accepted to GSTL, just me/the koreans had some disagreements about stuff, and a lot of other things came up, as well as three potential players were going to join under x-y-z conditions etc. All in all it was a good run, and the owner is a great guy, sad really everything turned out so sour in the sad ;; Guess I should mention the disagreements were with management/etc, not with each other. | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
Sad to see the efforts of so many players going to waste. | ||
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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:11 lastshadow wrote: All in all it was a good run, and the owner is a great guy, sad really everything turned out so sour in the sad ;; Guess I should mention the disagreements were with management/etc, not with each other. Where does this put you with regards to your situation in Korea? Is that up in the air, or will you have to return to the states? Now that you are teamless, do you have any plans for joining another team, or is it too soon to tell? I've been a really big fan of both you and GosuGamers, so I'm sorry things didn't work out. Best of luck. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Won't miss them because of that. | ||
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Mystik
Canada35 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:20 rapidtransit247 wrote: Where does this put you with regards to your situation in Korea? Is that up in the air, or will you have to return to the states? Now that you are teamless, do you have any plans for joining another team, or is it too soon to tell? I've been a really big fan of both you and GosuGamers, so I'm sorry things didn't work out. Best of luck. I don't want to return to America, I want to stay in Korea, for good lol, it's why I'm trying to learn the language and hopefully will be able to take classes in the future. As far as my "team" situation, I would only entertain ideas of teams(foreign) that have a korean vision and serious players, otherwise I'll wait until I can try to get into a korean team. A lot of people mentioned col for some reason regarding me, but I don't believe in their "korean vision" out-side of the partnership with MVP, drewbie left korea really fast for personal reasons, and qxc (who is a really good guy/player) left fxo because he doesn't want to prioritize his progaming (understandable) but these reasons alone basically solidify that the team seems to not be serious enough, at least not in my eyes, of what a team needs to in order to succeed in Korea. It's why I only recruited/wanted Koreans on the GG.net team ~~; I'll continue to grind hard and study like never before now too since now I don't have a "safety-net" to fall back on anymore, being out here in korea and all :D! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:28 lastshadow wrote: I don't want to return to America, I want to stay in Korea, for good lol, it's why I'm trying to learn the language and hopefully will be able to take classes in the future. As far as my "team" situation, I would only entertain ideas of teams(foreign) that have a korean vision and serious players, otherwise I'll wait until I can try to get into a korean team. A lot of people mentioned col for some reason regarding me, but I don't believe in their "korean vision" out-side of the partnership with MVP, drewbie left korea really fast for personal reasons, and qxc (who is a really good guy/player) left fxo because he doesn't want to prioritize his progaming (understandable) but these reasons alone basically solidify that the team seems to not be serious enough, at least not in my eyes, of what a team needs to in order to succeed in Korea. It's why I only recruited/wanted Koreans on the GG.net team ~~; I'll continue to grind hard and study like never before now too since now I don't have a "safety-net" to fall back on anymore, being out here in korea and all :D! Well the only team that describes what you want is FXO out of well used to be considered a foreign team  . Good luck on getting on a korean team I imagine its tough! | ||
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Samp
Canada783 Posts
gl lastshadow. | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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strength
United States493 Posts
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RainSunShowers
Norway152 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:28 lastshadow wrote: I don't want to return to America, I want to stay in Korea, for good lol, it's why I'm trying to learn the language and hopefully will be able to take classes in the future. As far as my "team" situation, I would only entertain ideas of teams(foreign) that have a korean vision and serious players, otherwise I'll wait until I can try to get into a korean team. A lot of people mentioned col for some reason regarding me, but I don't believe in their "korean vision" out-side of the partnership with MVP, drewbie left korea really fast for personal reasons, and qxc (who is a really good guy/player) left fxo because he doesn't want to prioritize his progaming (understandable) but these reasons alone basically solidify that the team seems to not be serious enough, at least not in my eyes, of what a team needs to in order to succeed in Korea. It's why I only recruited/wanted Koreans on the GG.net team ~~; I'll continue to grind hard and study like never before now too since now I don't have a "safety-net" to fall back on anymore, being out here in korea and all :D! TSL maybe, they seem quite serious, and they just lost quite a few players, you could help them build up again. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
sucks :-/ | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Spice Girls? | ||
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sYz-Adrenaline
United States1850 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:00 BushidoSnipr wrote: Gatored is amazing, lets hope he finds an awesome team! Thinking of wrong team Team GG was pretty much Naugrim, Lastshadow and Oasis (KR), and Galaxy (KR) | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Noev
United States1105 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:58 ishboh wrote: ROOT also disbanded, granted a lot of the players went to complexity. Yeah i think thats the trend a team disbands for whatever reason the players who all are good or have experience working together join back up and either join a new team or just play together until they get recruited to a new team. Sad to see a team end but good luck to the players. | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:07 sYz-Adrenaline wrote: Thinking of wrong team Team GG was pretty much Naugrim, Lastshadow and Oasis (KR), and Galaxy (KR) Oh yea It's Gosu is his team. nm i hope lastshadow does well then! | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:04 RainSunShowers wrote: TSL maybe, they seem quite serious, and they just lost quite a few players, you could help them build up again. TSL would be pretty sick, Coach Lee seems like he really wants to push for a BW esque training schedule which would suit LS down to the ground I think, maybe Artosis can work something out.... | ||
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
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JungHyun
United States47 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:59 Kyhol wrote: The true GoSu prevail! Now if we can stand the test of time... I think that's a real dickish thing to say, after a team disbands it's really tasteless to say your team prevails after how long GosuGamers has been in the industry... Hope someone will recruit LastShadow, he has a lot of talent. | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
Hope every salary etc was paid. I dont want to haev another drama about a team not paying their debts cause they decided to split up | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
not so gosu when i can't name any of their players. | ||
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ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:07 sYz-Adrenaline wrote: Thinking of wrong team Team GG was pretty much Naugrim, Lastshadow and Oasis (KR), and Galaxy (KR) Zpux war really good in the beta and then pretty much vanished. | ||
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
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FunkyFly
Sweden82 Posts
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Namu
United States826 Posts
It's a pretty reasonable choice since GG didn't really have any success in terms of tournament results.. but still a sad thing to see. | ||
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TaktiDerBlonde
Germany33 Posts
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ReboundEU
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Lionexx
United States39 Posts
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towel
Sweden156 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:53 Deadeight wrote: So much news all at once. DoA was the only gosu gamers member I knew of, but good luck to all the ex Gosu Gamers players. DoA was with It's Gosu, not GosuGamers I believe. | ||
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Legio
Sweden235 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:28 lastshadow wrote: I don't want to return to America, I want to stay in Korea, for good lol, it's why I'm trying to learn the language and hopefully will be able to take classes in the future. As far as my "team" situation, I would only entertain ideas of teams(foreign) that have a korean vision and serious players, otherwise I'll wait until I can try to get into a korean team. A lot of people mentioned col for some reason regarding me, but I don't believe in their "korean vision" out-side of the partnership with MVP, drewbie left korea really fast for personal reasons, and qxc (who is a really good guy/player) left fxo because he doesn't want to prioritize his progaming (understandable) but these reasons alone basically solidify that the team seems to not be serious enough, at least not in my eyes, of what a team needs to in order to succeed in Korea. It's why I only recruited/wanted Koreans on the GG.net team ~~; I'll continue to grind hard and study like never before now too since now I don't have a "safety-net" to fall back on anymore, being out here in korea and all :D! Can you give a bit more story to what you're doing in Korea, where you are from, what you're challenges have been, how the other teams like EG, TL and FXO are establishing in Korea/your status with them, your training regimen etc. It seems not alot of people even knew GG had a team, so maybe if you share a bit about yourself, you can raise your profile a bit to get the attention of the big boys? | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Regime
Australia185 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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MooLen
Germany501 Posts
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ntssauce
Germany750 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:06 Legio wrote: Can you give a bit more story to what you're doing in Korea, where you are from, what you're challenges have been, how the other teams like EG, TL and FXO are establishing in Korea/your status with them, your training regimen etc. It seems not alot of people even knew GG had a team, so maybe if you share a bit about yourself, you can raise your profile a bit to get the attention of the big boys? | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:44 Aegeis wrote: Is LastShadow the guy who has been doing some vlogs in Korea? Yep. He has quite a few now. Wish luck to them and Lastshadow hope to see you in some GSL soon. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
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omnikaush
United States49 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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Scrubby-onE
Canada42 Posts
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firetyo
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It's crazyy. Maybe all of the GG players will join a Korean team? | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
it's those kind of people who made the korean scene big in the first place! | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
EDIT: last shadow maybe one of my favorite players after seeing that vid, he actually talked and is as white and nerdy as i thought <3333. That guy just won himself +1 loyal fan points. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
On December 03 2011 07:02 omnikaush wrote: GG is not It's Gosu. This announcement does not affect hwangsin My bad thought the prefix Gosu was gosugamers. | ||
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
On December 03 2011 07:51 docvoc wrote: Basically this is just proving that teams with no real practice schedules that are synced up and that operate pretty much as atonomous players tend to fail in long run as seen with GG and Six.Jax (now check.six i believe). I just don't see how the facts don't point to such clans being non-viable at the highest levels of play. I know in other sports it works, but in a game like starcraft it doesn't seem to be working well. EDIT: last shadow maybe one of my favorite players after seeing that vid, he actually talked and is as white and nerdy as i thought <3333. That guy just won himself +1 loyal fan points. SixJax and CheckSix are entirely different | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
the players was not S class (just some GOOD but no one went fulltime pro really) but the biggest problem was for me the managment, sure marcoon might be good but comparing what you heared there and about like TL etc other teams, it was always to quiet about GG, never mentioned no results in any tournaments nothing ... | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
sry for double post ... i am stupid sry ! | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
Yeah but that was because they lost their two players in a matter of like a week (first  NightEnD to Fnatic and then  ThorZaIN to mouz). They had like a few other players, but none of them were any good. | ||
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iSometric
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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Anachronism
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TAAF
Switzerland226 Posts
But really they did a bad job about telling people that they are out there playing Starcraft 2 professionally, you just can't run a team like that... promotion is everything in our modern world... | ||
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
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vitruvia
Canada235 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:02 Anachronism wrote: Could someone link their Icon aswell as their player list? Hard to keep track of all the different clans. Liquipedia has you covered. ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/da/Team_GosuGamers.jpg) iNfeRnaL Naugrim Ourk Galaxy LastShadow Oasis ZpuX IcaruS | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Didn't even realize iNfeRnaL was on their team, lol. ZpuX, LS (cringe), Naugrim and iNf should be able to find new teams that is if they want to. | ||
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PolskaGora
United States547 Posts
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:45 OptimusYale wrote: Where will hwangshin go? He will stay on It's Gosu. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
I got my lines crossed.....My bad | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:58 ishboh wrote: ROOT also disbanded, granted a lot of the players went to complexity. They didn't disband, they were acquired | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
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hXcBassman
Canada38 Posts
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jinixxx123
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
Good luck to LastShadow, i appreciate the tone of your posts in this thread. With that kind of attitude the sky is the limit. | ||
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AZKziek
Australia64 Posts
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RastaMonsta
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DeadCell
Canada256 Posts
good luck finding a new team. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:07 iNcontroL wrote: they did next to nothing with/for their progamer team... I wanted them to try and rival TL as they have some good history there but instead all I heard from them was a team barely advertised with very little support and then today it died o-O I never even realized they had a team. Did they have anyone of note on it? Edit: nevermind...read a few posts back. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Phixxx
Sweden14 Posts
LastShadow Fighting!!!!! | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
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teh_longinator
Canada725 Posts
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undyinglight
United States611 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:22 JungHyun wrote: I think that's a real dickish thing to say, after a team disbands it's really tasteless to say your team prevails after how long GosuGamers has been in the industry... Hope someone will recruit LastShadow, he has a lot of talent. You're right, I never thought about it their feelings. It was tasteless of me. I've been a member of GosuGamers site for at least 5 years. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
SixJax | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On December 03 2011 11:39 darkness wrote: I couldn't care less as GosuGamers (the website) is a joke. Anyway, I hope players can find a good team that is better for them. Maybe it is currently a joke for you newcomers from sc2 , however I used to get a lot of my Broodwar news from there, have a little respect for gosu gamers please.... | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:07 iNcontroL wrote: they did next to nothing with/for their progamer team... I wanted them to try and rival TL as they have some good history there but instead all I heard from them was a team barely advertised with very little support and then today it died o-O Agreed wholeheartedly. Individually they are pretty well known by the bw community, but as SC2 team, they really got next to zero advertisement, didn't participate in any team leagues or even play daily tournaments for exposure. Not even talking about big tournament exposure like NASL/MLG/DH/IEM/IPL. It's a shame, because had their managers tried to organize better, the players were certainly good enough to show good performance even at top tier tournaments. | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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Theleech
United States31 Posts
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
What about the team that made Reign, and someone else mentioned Sixjax. I also thought of WeRRa | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
Edit: Never mind | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
Some stuff like this is bound to happen, its better to have teams fold now so players have time to go elsewhere and develop. GG - No Re | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
wemadefox was kind of just the old wc3 clan with its players playing sc2 for a while (moon, lyn, soccer). since only soccer seems to play sc2 full time, there wasnt too much to "disband" ^^ | ||
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Insomni7
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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InvXXVII
Canada242 Posts
Those teams disbanded, but they all had players who were somewhat successful. (LG had PainUser, who was pretty good in the beta. ROOT needs no explanation. Prae had NightEnd and ThorZain). GG was all but a less than mediocre team and didn't really have an impact on the professional scene. Sad for them. I hope that LastShadow will do good in Korea. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:11 lastshadow wrote: As I said on GG.net: We were accepted to GSTL, just me/the koreans had some disagreements about stuff, and a lot of other things came up, as well as three potential players were going to join under x-y-z conditions etc. All in all it was a good run, and the owner is a great guy, sad really everything turned out so sour in the sad ;; Guess I should mention the disagreements were with management/etc, not with each other. Did your injury have anything to do with the shutdown? Hope all is going well btw! | ||
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Creegz
Canada354 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:26 Noxie wrote: Did your injury have anything to do with the shutdown? Hope all is going well btw! No I went back to America for 3weeks and got medicine/fixed my hand, it's healing/improving really well, and sometimes hurts, but I'm also pushing myself really hard time grinding out games the last four days or so. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:11 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: VT also disbanded awhile ago More of a rename. Or at least a rebrand. | ||
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
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styleworks79
United States127 Posts
Sorry to hear this bro. Best of luck to you in the future! Hit me up on MSN. Eugene | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On December 03 2011 13:03 Sawamura wrote: Maybe it is currently a joke for you newcomers from sc2 , however I used to get a lot of my Broodwar news from there, have a little respect for gosu gamers please.... Most of which they copied from the TL forums... | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:46 Creegz wrote: I really liked LastShadow...a lot. He was an interesting player. lol it's not like he died or something XD He's gonna keep playing, probably find another team. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany673 Posts
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Ibra
Sweden24 Posts
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mki
Poland882 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:18 InvXXVII wrote: Those teams disbanded, but they all had players who were somewhat successful. (LG had PainUser, who was pretty good in the beta. ROOT needs no explanation. Prae had NightEnd and ThorZain). GG was all but a less than mediocre team and didn't really have an impact on the professional scene. Sad for them. I hope that LastShadow will do good in Korea.Just shows North American ignorance to European StarCraft II. If you're going to mention PainUser then you can't call GG less than mediocre. | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
On December 03 2011 21:28 mki wrote: Just shows North American ignorance to European StarCraft II. If you're going to mention PainUser then you can't call GG less than mediocre. Add sixjax to that list... | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On December 03 2011 15:18 InvXXVII wrote: Those teams disbanded, but they all had players who were somewhat successful. (LG had PainUser, who was pretty good in the beta. ROOT needs no explanation. Prae had NightEnd and ThorZain). GG was all but a less than mediocre team and didn't really have an impact on the professional scene. Sad for them. I hope that LastShadow will do good in Korea.Naugrim did very well in online cups and local tournaments. If I recall correctly he made top 4 in the first Swedish WCG qualifier. Players like sase, haypro, naniwa, sjow, bischu, thorzain, morrow. The only players that placed above him were morrow and lalush. (I might Ne mixing him up with someone else). | ||
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Warfield
United States49 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:28 lastshadow wrote: I don't want to return to America, I want to stay in Korea, for good lol, it's why I'm trying to learn the language and hopefully will be able to take classes in the future. As far as my "team" situation, I would only entertain ideas of teams(foreign) that have a korean vision and serious players, otherwise I'll wait until I can try to get into a korean team. A lot of people mentioned col for some reason regarding me, but I don't believe in their "korean vision" out-side of the partnership with MVP, drewbie left korea really fast for personal reasons, and qxc (who is a really good guy/player) left fxo because he doesn't want to prioritize his progaming (understandable) but these reasons alone basically solidify that the team seems to not be serious enough, at least not in my eyes, of what a team needs to in order to succeed in Korea. It's why I only recruited/wanted Koreans on the GG.net team ~~; I'll continue to grind hard and study like never before now too since now I don't have a "safety-net" to fall back on anymore, being out here in korea and all :D! How do you stay funded? Like housing, food etc... | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
Unfortunate, but inevitable. Good luck to gg.net | ||
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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Creegz
Canada354 Posts
On December 03 2011 20:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: lol it's not like he died or something XD He's gonna keep playing, probably find another team. Oh I know that, but he doesn't have the same support any more. This could prove to be an issue for his progression. | ||
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Jongl0
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InvXXVII
Canada242 Posts
On December 03 2011 21:28 mki wrote: Just shows North American ignorance to European StarCraft II. If you're going to mention PainUser then you can't call GG less than mediocre. I mentionned PainUser IN THE BETA. Lazarus picked him up cuz he was good in the beta. | ||
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
On December 03 2011 20:07 Nr.1-Wey wrote: GG is a joke since Mazor left. Way to age yourself and be a long long time lurker :p I do miss Mazor though, he was an AWESOME guy. | ||
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SgtPepper
United States568 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:19 tGFuRy wrote: Uh... lol? So many good players on a sponsored team and they fall apart. LAWL VT, LG, now itsgosu? Sad.... A perfect example of someone who doesn't read the OP. lol GL Lastshadow, I hope you can find a team in Korea and continue to reach your goals. You might of had a troubled past in BW , but in SC2 you show nothing but hard work and determination to succeed at the highest of levels. You've changed into a much better person over time, and for that I wish nothing but the best for you. GL. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Hopefully their players can find their way onto teams who can actually do something for them. | ||
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ChampionEast14
United States27 Posts
(i really miss WeRRa)D: | ||
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
On December 02 2011 23:39 Kralic wrote: Ahh another TL.net > GG.net! Sucks about their team though, but I rarely heard anything from them in terms of results. TL.net > GG.net....in SC2 GG.net plays a huge role in the DotA community. Don't badmouth other websites just because of stuff like this. | ||
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Aurorajp
Canada43 Posts
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Lavi
Bangladesh793 Posts
Hope the ex GG players can get situated with other teams soon they got some good players | ||
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how
United States538 Posts
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HighlyToxic
France101 Posts
Then I wish for their player gl to explode in the scene | ||
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:54 blade55555 wrote: Well the only team that describes what you want is FXO out of well used to be considered a foreign team . Good luck on getting on a korean team I imagine its tough!How is FXO a foreign team ? They only have koreans from fou as far as I can tell. | ||
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bellykiller
United States69 Posts
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Alphaes
United States651 Posts
On December 05 2011 01:19 Mondieu wrote: How is FXO a foreign team ? They only have koreans from fou as far as I can tell. fxo.imba is a foreigner team, no? | ||
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mki
Poland882 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Sway.746
United States95 Posts
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Bedward
United States28 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
if you are talking about ROOT than I must say thats not entirely correct. some ROOT members (the main one in my head being kiwikaki) did not go to complexity. | ||
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unbaal
Sweden44 Posts
On December 03 2011 20:07 Nr.1-Wey wrote: GG is a joke since Mazor left. sry to hear, best of luck to all of the players! btw why did mazor ever leave? | ||
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f0X
Germany38 Posts
the site will probably stay in shape with reports... but the team will be missed... | ||
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
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Vamp
United Kingdom184 Posts
they had been going for quite some time. | ||
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Ushido
France19 Posts
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
On December 05 2011 01:19 Mondieu wrote: How is FXO a foreign team ? They only have koreans from fou as far as I can tell. Slog and Optikzero are still on FXO to my knowledge. | ||
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DipoleMoment
United States7 Posts
Distinctly remember beating him in an ICCup tourney finals where he proceeded to flame and bad manner me for over 30 minutes about how I got lucky and he was the better player. The guy definitely does not deserve to be in Korea or on a team in general. And honestly, I guess he isn't overrated, because to be overrated you have to be considered good in the first place, which he never was. DM | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On December 08 2011 21:05 Megatronn wrote: I have a question that maybe someone in this thread can answer.. Why is lastshadow in Korea? Does he not want to participate in MLGs or other various international tournaments? I thought players usually proved themselves to be a decent player in the west before going to Korea. I won trial games vs MVP players to get my invite. | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
On December 08 2011 21:05 Megatronn wrote: I have a question that maybe someone in this thread can answer.. Why is lastshadow in Korea? Does he not want to participate in MLGs or other various international tournaments? I thought players usually proved themselves to be a decent player in the west before going to Korea. Everyone isn't after the fame and glory you get in the foreigner community. Those people will fade away anyway soon. You could probably compare what LS is doing to what HuK did, just that HuK had the luck to actually train in a real progamer house. Anyway, it's people with the mindset like LS that will stick around in the long run because the reward is better than staying at home in the west, play cups and stream NA/EU ladder play every day to earn some small bucks and go to events only to get crushed by hardworking koreans. You could question why LS is in Korea without any major results in the west if he only was there to play Code A, but he is there to actually train hard like any other korean, right? | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
On December 08 2011 21:28 lastshadow wrote: I won trial games vs MVP players to get my invite. EDIT: To the guy above me, look at Stephano, I think if anything he proves that you don't need to train in Korea to be a beast and get money or beat Koreans. I'm sorry but could you explain a little better? It's ok if you can't but that's a little confusing.. xD. You won trial games vs MVP players to live in the GOM house? Was that required by GOM or by GG? | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On December 09 2011 02:02 Megatronn wrote: EDIT: To the guy above me, look at Stephano, I think if anything he proves that you don't need to train in Korea to be a beast and get money or beat Koreans. I'm sorry but could you explain a little better? It's ok if you can't but that's a little confusing.. xD. You won trial games vs MVP players to live in the GOM house? Was that required by GOM or by GG? Stephano would probably be the exception rather than the rule in this case. Originally LS lived in what used to be the MVP B-Team house, now the ProS house. The games he played against those MVP members were to get into that house. GG actually picked up a few members of that house (Icarus, Galaxy) to play on their pro team which according to LS was to participate in next years GSTL. However, he left the ProS house after about 3 months (I think) for a few reasons (it wasn't exactly the most serene practice environment you've ever seen/heard as anyone who watched his stream can attest to) and went to live in the GOM house, obviously with GOM's blessing. | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
But ^that is something to think about for every other foreign "progamer" who wants to be able to play this game for a living without being fucking trashed on by the koreans every event like they already do now. People who stays in the west because they are comfortable with how they have it now and they don't wanna leave their home and friends but still wanna call themselfs progamer even if they are trash pisses me off. The foreign scene isn't thinking for the long run, and that will turn our scene into the grave just like it did with BW eventually. Our scene = fancy events and talk shows. Lol sorry for hijacking the thread, maybe I should do a blog about this instead. ^^ | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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