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mouzMorroW in Korea + GSL Code A January - Page 22

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skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 30 2011 08:06 GMT
#421
On November 30 2011 13:24 GhostFall wrote:
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On November 30 2011 13:20 pdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 GhostFall wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:14 pdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:06 GhostFall wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:03 GettinMyFill wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:02 pdd wrote:
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.

He only plays TvZ... He's Zerg vs Protoss and Terran.

If the opponent is Zerg, they know they should practice vs Terran. If the opponents are Protoss or Terrans, they practice against Zerg. What's the difficulty?


There's none, morons are morons.


The only morons are those who call others morons for bringing up a good point.

But your point is not a good point.


Tell me how would you feel, if at any of the MLGs, at the height of 1/1/1, if Idra announced before each tournament, "I will be playing Terran against Protoss." Gives him more time to just focus on ZvT and ZvZ because the 1/1/1 was so easy to do, any pro level player could perform a well executed one within a week or 2 of practice. How is that fair? In any way.

How is it fair that Puma plays Terran against Protoss? Gives him more time to just focus on TvZ and TvT because the 1/1/1 was so easy to do any pro level player could perform a well executed one within a week or 2 of practice. How is that fair? In any way.

(For those not getting sarcasm, I was merely being sarcastic. I think the game is extremely balanced at the moment, especially in TvZ, which makes your point moot. ).


Because vP wasn't his worst matchup. This rule allows players to specifically get around their worst matchup not through skill, but through any exploitable strategy that is around at the time. It's like playing random with all the advantages of playing random, but none of the disadvantages.


Morrow almost always play very macro and standard based tvz, so you can stfu with ur QQ now please.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
November 30 2011 08:23 GMT
#422
Why can't Morrow just practice ZvZ more?
Has it always been a rule that you can do this, or did GSL just make an exception for Morrow?
If its the later then I agree with the notion that people should be allowed to switch race and 1/1/1 against Protoss then for the same reasons they're letting Morrow play TvZ.
Khaine
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden75 Posts
November 30 2011 08:32 GMT
#423
Go MorroW! Make us swedes proud!

When we have both Jinro and MorroW, SWEDEN WILL RULE ALL OF KOREA
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elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
November 30 2011 08:32 GMT
#424
On November 30 2011 17:23 Jojo131 wrote:
Why can't Morrow just practice ZvZ more?
Has it always been a rule that you can do this, or did GSL just make an exception for Morrow?
If its the later then I agree with the notion that people should be allowed to switch race and 1/1/1 against Protoss then for the same reasons they're letting Morrow play TvZ.


seriously? what do u think? ofc gsl would NEVER do an exception just for morrow?
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
November 30 2011 08:36 GMT
#425
On November 30 2011 17:32 elKaDor wrote:
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On November 30 2011 17:23 Jojo131 wrote:
Why can't Morrow just practice ZvZ more?
Has it always been a rule that you can do this, or did GSL just make an exception for Morrow?
If its the later then I agree with the notion that people should be allowed to switch race and 1/1/1 against Protoss then for the same reasons they're letting Morrow play TvZ.


seriously? what do u think? ofc gsl would NEVER do an exception just for morrow?


Why have we seen random players in the GSL then? Obviously the random players have favored match ups so why do they leave it to chance instead of just simply race picking. They have already made an exception with his free ride into Code A so they can do it again.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
November 30 2011 09:00 GMT
#426
The beast awakens... I always liked his play: very measured and boss-like
BronzeBas
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands76 Posts
November 30 2011 09:03 GMT
#427
Amazing news! Good luck Morrow! :D
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:12:27
November 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#428
LOL at people fussing over race-picking. Starcraft (from BW to SC2) has always allowed race-picking if their choices are stated at the start of the tournament. For instance, someone can make this stipulation:

I'll play terran, unless:
- If it's Bel'shir Beach or Crossfire, then I'll play zerg.
- If it's Calm Before the Storm, then I'll play protoss.
- If I'm playing Ryung or Cllliiiiiddddeeee, then I'll play protoss irregardless of the map.
- If it's a zerg opponent then I'll play zerg, but not if I'm playing on Calm Before the Storm.

This is clearly stated prior to the tournament starting - someone is not allowed to make changes midway during the tournament. As for 2 people who make potentially conflicting stipulations - then it's a bridge we will have to cross (if it ever happens... like 0.0001% chance).
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 09:21:52
November 30 2011 09:19 GMT
#429
HOLY FUCK YES GOGO MORROW OMGWTF ITS ABOUT TIME HE DID THIS

P.S. Jinro + SaSe + NaNiWa + MorroW = Swedish invasion continues lol....
rahlen
Profile Joined September 2010
5 Posts
November 30 2011 09:34 GMT
#430
I think you all is take this the wrong way, who cares if he plays tvz or zvz? its o foreigner with a chance to take out the most of the korean code a players, and its of course more fun to watch a player from "sweden" then a korean player just cuz they are foreigners! Sure its bad that the other foreigners gets knocked out in the first round, but if no one tries we wont see any jinro semi finals in code s again!.
Foreign tournaments have inviting Koreans much more than gsl have invited foreigners. And why's that? To get more viewers.You could argue that's ok because Koreans are generally better but don't pretend that it's some form of qualification process - Gruff
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#431
Lol, I almost forgot Morrow exists. I have not been watching this season NASL and I have not seen him compete anywhere else. I hope he does well in Korea and in WCG.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 10:42:41
November 30 2011 10:42 GMT
#432
EDIT: Wrong thread. I really need to stop doing this.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
November 30 2011 10:53 GMT
#433
Nice, my favourite zerg is back! Best of luck Morrow! :D
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
November 30 2011 10:58 GMT
#434
Good luck morrow hopefully you become twice the player you are already!!!
Live and Let Die!
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3386 Posts
November 30 2011 11:06 GMT
#435
I hope every tournament will allow race switching.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#436
On November 30 2011 18:19 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HOLY FUCK YES GOGO MORROW OMGWTF ITS ABOUT TIME HE DID THIS

P.S. Jinro + SaSe + NaNiWa + MorroW = Swedish invasion continues lol....


I just wish Thorzain and Sjow had stayed as well.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 11:27:11
November 30 2011 11:24 GMT
#437
On November 30 2011 17:36 Mycl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 17:32 elKaDor wrote:
On November 30 2011 17:23 Jojo131 wrote:
Why can't Morrow just practice ZvZ more?
Has it always been a rule that you can do this, or did GSL just make an exception for Morrow?
If its the later then I agree with the notion that people should be allowed to switch race and 1/1/1 against Protoss then for the same reasons they're letting Morrow play TvZ.


seriously? what do u think? ofc gsl would NEVER do an exception just for morrow?


Why have we seen random players in the GSL then? Obviously the random players have favored match ups so why do they leave it to chance instead of just simply race picking. They have already made an exception with his free ride into Code A so they can do it again.


His free ride isn't an exception... They have invited top foreigners that goes to Korea a place in the gsl since a long time back, so that analogy fails hard.

Of course they could have made an exception specifically for Morrow but it's more likely just that very few players wants to learn and practise two races. The few random players that have played in the gsl is not proof of anything. Maybe they didn't ask or just prefered having the "random factor" over their opponents, getting the slight advantage of their opponents not knowing their race at the start.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Mentor
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany219 Posts
November 30 2011 12:21 GMT
#438
This is SO awesome. Except for totally destroying his NASL group, there was no Morrow to be seen in the last few months, which made me quiet sad, since in my book he's still the best european Zerg, despite all the Stephano and Nerchio hype, and Ret being a beast lately. Also there's always Dima, but he's a bit camera shy too.
"Fame is like salty water, no last sip after the first, and before you drown you'll be dying of thirst." -Prezident-
Lewander
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden7 Posts
November 30 2011 12:42 GMT
#439
Awesome, GL morrow
Why can't we treat our fellow men With more respect and a shake of their hands But anger and loathing is rife The death on all sides is becoming a way of life
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
November 30 2011 12:46 GMT
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