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On November 26 2011 12:07 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 11:57 zyzq wrote:On November 26 2011 11:44 vnlegend wrote:
MVP's chronic wrist problems definitely make him feel miserable while playing so that can't be helped. It's tough when you know what to do and how to do it, but you're limited by your hands.
The only edge MVP has these days are his strategy and decision-making, much like Nestea. There are players with better macro (Bomber), micro (sC, MKP), multitasking (MMA), etc. Times will be tough for Nestea and MVP in the future. Yeah, MVP has terrible mechanics thats why he was better than all of them at SC1, lol. Dunno what games you're watching lol. MVP still has at least the 2nd best terran macro in the world, 2nd-3rd best micro and easily has multitasking equavilent too or greater than MMAs. And, can we stop using the bonjwa word now, since MVP explicitly stated that he needs more sucess before it can be applicable?
He was sarcastically responding to the post above his.
People love to hate MVP. He easily has the best macro,micro, and multitasking combination around. Sure Bomber at his best might have better macro, but on average, MVP outmacro's Bomber easily. In no game has sC shown better micro, you're just pulling shit out of your ass now. MKP hasn't shown the amazing micro we know and love for a while, and while he may have moments of brilliance, on average MVP's micro IS better. Multitasking, he's easily on par, or if not better than MMA.
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On November 26 2011 12:41 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 12:07 1Eris1 wrote:On November 26 2011 11:57 zyzq wrote:On November 26 2011 11:44 vnlegend wrote:
MVP's chronic wrist problems definitely make him feel miserable while playing so that can't be helped. It's tough when you know what to do and how to do it, but you're limited by your hands.
The only edge MVP has these days are his strategy and decision-making, much like Nestea. There are players with better macro (Bomber), micro (sC, MKP), multitasking (MMA), etc. Times will be tough for Nestea and MVP in the future. Yeah, MVP has terrible mechanics thats why he was better than all of them at SC1, lol. Dunno what games you're watching lol. MVP still has at least the 2nd best terran macro in the world, 2nd-3rd best micro and easily has multitasking equavilent too or greater than MMAs. And, can we stop using the bonjwa word now, since MVP explicitly stated that he needs more sucess before it can be applicable? He was sarcastically responding to the post above his. People love to hate MVP. He easily has the best macro,micro, and multitasking combination around. Sure Bomber at his best might have better macro, but on average, MVP outmacro's Bomber easily. In no game has sC shown better micro, you're just pulling shit out of your ass now. MKP hasn't shown the amazing micro we know and love for a while, and while he may have moments of brilliance, on average MVP's micro IS better. Multitasking, he's easily on par, or if not better than MMA.
The other players are just more stylistic than MVP, which is why they have their own fans. MKP has his marines, MMA has his drops, and I'm not too sure about sc, but he's young and has a pretty timing oriented style. MVP could do all that (maybe not the drop micro, given his wrist problems), but instead of being too predictable, he has multiple builds, timings, and strategies that more or less takes and uses most of what all the other skilled terrans specialize in.
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On November 26 2011 12:07 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 11:57 zyzq wrote:On November 26 2011 11:44 vnlegend wrote:
MVP's chronic wrist problems definitely make him feel miserable while playing so that can't be helped. It's tough when you know what to do and how to do it, but you're limited by your hands.
The only edge MVP has these days are his strategy and decision-making, much like Nestea. There are players with better macro (Bomber), micro (sC, MKP), multitasking (MMA), etc. Times will be tough for Nestea and MVP in the future. Yeah, MVP has terrible mechanics thats why he was better than all of them at SC1, lol. Dunno what games you're watching lol. MVP still has at least the 2nd best terran macro in the world, 2nd-3rd best micro and easily has multitasking equavilent too or greater than MMAs. And, can we stop using the bonjwa word now, since MVP explicitly stated that he needs more sucess before it can be applicable?
I really think MVP is the best at everything when it comes to macro, micro, mechanics and multitasking. MVP is a macro god, his marine micro is OP as shit, I don't see any weaknesses really. He almost always goes the right build, the right unit composition and he wins engagements.
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I'd say Mvp is tied for Macro with Bomber, tied for Micro with MKP, and maybe slightly weaker in multitasking than MMA. It's the fact that he has all of these at once, + his spectacular decision making (He knows when to be patient and he knows when to smell blood in the water and kill), remarkable tenacity (his comeback against LosirA at MLG), and absurd number of builds that he can execute perfectly that makes him the King of Terran.
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As much as I want protosses to do well in the GSL, I really want Leenock to win this one
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MVP: Well I was sick + thought it was tough, but meh, 3-0, not bad. so gosu... and guys, you heard it from himself, he aint a bonjwa yet
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MVP is going to work harder, sounds good to me.
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CAN'T WAIT for Leenock vs Mvp semifinal now, it's gonna be so sick omg. Mvp still a total boss, 3-0ing sC while sick what a baller.
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I feel sad right about now because MVP is going to smash Leenock to itty bitty pieces. I wish I could deny it, but he was sick, sedated from cold pills and had to do a comeback in one of his games and still pulled a 3-0. I'm not sure if Leenock will get the benefit of any of these.
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On November 26 2011 12:41 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 12:07 1Eris1 wrote:On November 26 2011 11:57 zyzq wrote:On November 26 2011 11:44 vnlegend wrote:
MVP's chronic wrist problems definitely make him feel miserable while playing so that can't be helped. It's tough when you know what to do and how to do it, but you're limited by your hands.
The only edge MVP has these days are his strategy and decision-making, much like Nestea. There are players with better macro (Bomber), micro (sC, MKP), multitasking (MMA), etc. Times will be tough for Nestea and MVP in the future. Yeah, MVP has terrible mechanics thats why he was better than all of them at SC1, lol. Dunno what games you're watching lol. MVP still has at least the 2nd best terran macro in the world, 2nd-3rd best micro and easily has multitasking equavilent too or greater than MMAs. And, can we stop using the bonjwa word now, since MVP explicitly stated that he needs more sucess before it can be applicable? He was sarcastically responding to the post above his. People love to hate MVP. He easily has the best macro,micro, and multitasking combination around. Sure Bomber at his best might have better macro, but on average, MVP outmacro's Bomber easily. In no game has sC shown better micro, you're just pulling shit out of your ass now. MKP hasn't shown the amazing micro we know and love for a while, and while he may have moments of brilliance, on average MVP's micro IS better. Multitasking, he's easily on par, or if not better than MMA.
Haha yeah, I meant to quote the guy he was quoting >.<
And I completely agree with what you are saying. His consistency in all aspects is what sets him apart. Shit, even when the guy has an off day he still finishes 4th at MLG
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On November 26 2011 13:56 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
I feel sad right about now because MVP is going to smash Leenock to itty bitty pieces. I wish I could deny it, but he was sick, sedated from cold pills and had to do a comeback in one of his games and still pulled a 3-0. I'm not sure if Leenock will get the benefit of any of these.
Well Leenock 2 - 0 MVP at MLG so i doubt it will be as easy as you make it sound.
I am certainly looking out for it, hoping for some great matches.
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On November 26 2011 13:31 dgwow wrote:
As much as I want protosses to do well in the GSL, I really want Leenock to win this one
Same for me, I really want protoss to finally win the GSL again but I also really want jjakji or leenock to win this GSL.
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No, MVP must win. Order must be restored to the Dominion!
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It isn't time for a Protoss win. Not yet. Aiur is still rebuilding the fleet. HuK is still on the planet Stockholm, and MC is slowly re-engaging BossToss mode. Oz, the Wizard from the FXO College of Winterhold is working hard to achieve victory but, alas, it shall not be his this time.
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On November 26 2011 17:33 SeaSwift wrote:
It isn't time for a Protoss win. Not yet. Aiur is still rebuilding the fleet. HuK is still on the planet Stockholm, and MC is slowly re-engaging BossToss mode. Oz, the Wizard from the FXO College of Winterhold is working hard to achieve victory but, alas, it shall not be his this time.
If only Oz knew how to FUS ROH DAH then he wouldve taken this Code S ezpz
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I think it would be awesome if Leenock wins GSL right after MLG!
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On November 26 2011 14:51 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 13:56 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
I feel sad right about now because MVP is going to smash Leenock to itty bitty pieces. I wish I could deny it, but he was sick, sedated from cold pills and had to do a comeback in one of his games and still pulled a 3-0. I'm not sure if Leenock will get the benefit of any of these. Well Leenock 2 - 0 MVP at MLG so i doubt it will be as easy as you make it sound. I am certainly looking out for it, hoping for some great matches.
It definitely wont be easy, but I wouldn't put too much into the match they played at MLG. GSL is a different format where players are fully rested and have had a lot of time to prepare for the game. I am sure both Leenock and Mvp were both very exhaused when they played in MLG, and had minimal time to prepare in.
This time it will be different and as much as i'd love to see Leenock win, I have to give the edge to Mvp.
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