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Hey guys! If you want to argue that this tourney is "sexist" please make your own thread about it.
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
November 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#161
DaSakura Canadian Zerg FIGHTING!

If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 04:15:21
November 11 2011 04:15 GMT
#162
가연누나홧팅!
Can't wait for this tournament!!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
November 11 2011 04:18 GMT
#163
I could of sworn there was a kellymilkies in some of the promo pictures.. If shes not playing I hope shes not casting either...
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
November 11 2011 04:21 GMT
#164
On November 11 2011 04:39 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 04:36 Zaphid wrote:
No protoss ? Damn.

That's because protoss is the most manly race.


I thought girls preferred protoss because no blood is shed when units die.
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
Pugget
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
November 11 2011 04:22 GMT
#165
On November 11 2011 12:35 Shel wrote:
Well, based on this thread and the other one about Divina, I'd hardly say this is a harassment free environment


I don't have a perfect record myself.

I completely agree that this is in a different league than the other examples you bring up (gay's in the workplace, continued racial discrimination), and I don't want to over inflate the issue. However, I don't think it's a as trivial as you make it. Watching streams, and reading chat and LR threads, one commonly stumbles across sexism. Female players who have gotten good enough to compete in the MLG brackets are sexualized by the community on a regular basis, while those who are unknown, and shielded by the ladder, can still pick up on the vibe from reading forums.

All the known female SC2 players deal with this shit one way or another, and more power to them for doing it. But I think the point here is that having to deal with it significantly shrinks the pool of women who you are going see work hard to integrate into the community. That dealing with it is "part of being a female gamer" is the exactly the problem.

On November 11 2011 12:35 Shel wrote:
Oh, and the idea that women are somehow emotionally unequipped to deal with losses is absolutely ridiculous. Ask any pro, male or female, they all take losses seriously. They all get pissed. It's not your reaction that matters, it's how you overcome it, and that's a skill that almost anyone can eventually master.


I hope I didn't write anything that could be read as implying this, as it certainly isn't something I believe.
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
November 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#166
On November 11 2011 11:11 bkrow wrote:
If Flo is still with her team, then there is no way i will be cheering for anyone else!

Go go PMS.Flo ^_^

OT: Great preview and nice initiative by zowie



yup, she's with PMS.


gogo flo~
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 11 2011 04:44 GMT
#167
so many terran. but where is EVE? also megumixbear! arent they good enough for this tourney?
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 11 2011 05:11 GMT
#168
Code, Peanut said she left for some reason. Did she come back?

And Pugget, it wasn't you that said the thing about women not being able to handle losses. It was actually a quote that someone posted a few pages back from DeSakura. Kind of sad to hear a female gamer bash on her own gender like that, but whatever. It probably has more to do with her culture then with reality.

Kind of off topic, but speaking of culture, does anyone know if women are seen as these emotional nutbags in Asian countries? I think that's a point of view that's rare to hear nowadays in the states, but is that still prevalent in the East?
There is no spoon
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 11 2011 05:14 GMT
#169
very nice long live flo
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Hexxed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States202 Posts
November 11 2011 05:17 GMT
#170
Aphrodite fighting!
www.twitch.tv/hexsctv - Zerg Master's stream NA Ladder
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 11 2011 05:28 GMT
#171
Pugget, we seem to be arguing different ideas. You're saying it's unfair because most female gamers have too many obstacles to get heavy into SC2. I'm saying that once a woman makes that choice, it's all even. I think we're both right.
There is no spoon
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:33:21
November 11 2011 05:31 GMT
#172
Looks likea its gonna be a good show

Is lajte adopted or like half swedish or what? The surname confuses me T.T
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
lollyz
Profile Joined April 2011
218 Posts
November 11 2011 05:47 GMT
#173
Where is Salyers'Eve ?
HoodedAvatar
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada115 Posts
November 11 2011 05:47 GMT
#174
really cool, would be wonderful to see a rising number of female pro gamers. DaSakura Fighting!
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
November 11 2011 05:52 GMT
#175
They're all cute and unknown (from me). Who am i supposed to root for ? : oo
RedDeckWins
Profile Joined December 2010
United States123 Posts
November 11 2011 06:16 GMT
#176
Are there gonna be VoDs? Want to watch but not willing to miss sleep.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
November 11 2011 06:42 GMT
#177
flo and dasakura in the finals, called it.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Pugget
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
November 11 2011 06:42 GMT
#178
Shel, I suppose I can more or less go with what you said in your last post, although the kind stress associated with harassment can build up over time, even after you've made the decision. Hopefully a tourney like this will encourage more women to make that decision.
Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
November 11 2011 07:01 GMT
#179
DaSakura Fighting!! Go go Gurl!
ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
November 11 2011 07:02 GMT
#180
gogogo flo
Twitter @_ThisIsJimmy_
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