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Hey guys! If you want to argue that this tourney is "sexist" please make your own thread about it.
Ramen_
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:20:52
November 11 2011 12:19 GMT
#201
Now live, but spikes a lot.
Ditone
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore22 Posts
November 11 2011 12:31 GMT
#202
Hmmm no SlayerSEve? That woulda been cool :D
Still just another thing to look forward to :DD
Perfection is a human impossibility. Losing doesn't matter (ish). More gg, more skill :D
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 12:36:21
November 11 2011 12:36 GMT
#203
wrong thread
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Sooji
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
November 11 2011 12:36 GMT
#204
so its down for everyone else too?
Ramen_
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation23 Posts
November 11 2011 12:39 GMT
#205
Yes.
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
November 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#206
Lags gone, think they just sorted all the settings out - view it HERE
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icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
November 11 2011 12:58 GMT
#207
The stutter stream kinda kills what looks like it would be a fun tournament.
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HotS
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden46 Posts
November 11 2011 12:58 GMT
#208
why isent Linda ¨Pikachu¨ Liao playing this?
oni_link
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany165 Posts
November 11 2011 13:06 GMT
#209
im totally into canada
?:O
The Void
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 13:09:03
November 11 2011 13:07 GMT
#210
On November 11 2011 21:58 icydergosu wrote:
The stutter stream kinda kills what looks like it would be a fun tournament.


#

totally shitty stream 8[

got this multiple times at own3d.tv
even if you switch to less quality 360 stream... stuttering like hell TT
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
November 11 2011 13:15 GMT
#211
I think it would be a better idea if we get some regular casters. lets be honest the casters are not doing a good job at all, and though this a female tournament, i think they need to stop going for the ' feminine' sort of atmosphere. They are providing some good plays but really, the stream quality and casters must be replaced(imo they are just inexperienced). i hope to see a better tournament then this.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 13:19:34
November 11 2011 13:18 GMT
#212
On November 11 2011 22:07 The Void wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 21:58 icydergosu wrote:
The stutter stream kinda kills what looks like it would be a fun tournament.


#

totally shitty stream 8[

got this multiple times at own3d.tv
even if you switch to less quality 360 stream... stuttering like hell TT

It was doing the same for me as well. Now I just have a black screen nvm works fine for me now
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perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
November 11 2011 13:34 GMT
#213
On November 11 2011 17:54 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 12:03 Pugget wrote:
On November 11 2011 10:58 Shel wrote:
Comparing the inequality in a video game to racial inequality in real life isn't even close to an equal comparison.


True enough. It was more of an attempt at allegory than a statement that they were equal problems.

On November 11 2011 10:58 Shel wrote:
SC2, as with ALL video games, is indeed a meritocracy. If you have the skill, you win the games, you get noticed, you get a sponsor (and I'd think a female gamer would actually have an easier time of getting sponsors), and then you go to major events and perform at your best. And, for the record, there is a diamond player in this pool of women, so I guess the meritocracy isn't working as well as I just claimed.


An ideal meritocracy only exists under the condition that everyone 1) starts on an equal footing, and 2) completes in an environment that treats all equally. I would suggest that neither condition is fulfilled for women in SC2. It is far less likely that girls' parents and friends tolerate hours spent playing RTS games, partly because of a general lack of social acceptance for female gamers. The stereotype isn't there to normalize the activity. Then, women who do compete end up harassed and sexualized by a largely male community (a largely horny male community). That, needless to say, can serve to create a hostile environment.

Therefore why such tournaments are such a positive thing. Give role-models and provide a space free of harassment. Encourage more women to power through the B.S. they face being gamers.


This post is dumb. First of all, everyone has the same chances of winning in SC2, parenting has nothing to do with that, if your parents don't allow you to play alot then that sucks for you but this goes for boys and girls alike. So that is already a big bullshit excuse. Second of all, women don't usually get harrassed at all, it's the internet nobody knows what sex you are. of course if you use a name like "sexy girl 123" you kind of even deserve it. would people with names like "hot boy 2000" not get harrassed simply for picking a sex-based name?

This tournament is complete nonsense, I'm a mid master player and probably better than half the people attending this tournament but I don't get to play just because I have a penis and they don't? Don't you see how wrong this is? Skill is the only effective measure in SC2, gender is an absolute non factor, being a girl doesn't make it harder for you. This is a general excuse for lazyness, they don't put in as much time and effort as male progamers do but they somehow feel entitled to have a right to play in tournaments for big prize money, they could if they put in the same amount of time and hard work, but they make themselves an easy way, they make their own tournaments and just exclude everyone who is better than them and the reason is that you need to have a vagina. Seriously?

edit: and yes please ban me for having an opinion. >.<

User was temp banned for this post.


So you'd even go as far as to completely denying the influence of parents and society to hold on to your simple misogynism. With so little thought put into it I'd hardly call that an opinion. Sounds more like an excuse for being jealous.
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Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
November 11 2011 13:34 GMT
#214
Funny thing is it stutters only during the game.. I can watch milkis and the other commentator girl inbetween matches without problem..

Oh well.. from the 2 games I saw and the commentary I heard... I'm just signing off.
Chickaboom
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
November 11 2011 13:38 GMT
#215
gl hf girls! hope this tournament increases awareness of women performing well in esports.. but its so sad to see our ppl in the community giving their "elitist" point of view.. who cares if there diamond... who cares if its only girls ( they do have tournaments for citizens of a country also) at the end of the day its about getting better and having fun whether if ur a guy or a girl anyways. oh ya the stream was laggy even at 360p lol
dattebayo!
twistedalpha
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines139 Posts
November 11 2011 13:57 GMT
#216
On November 11 2011 22:34 Thrombozyt wrote:
I can watch milkis and the other commentator girl

Her name is Livinpink and she's from Canada (Go Leafs!!) and I believe she plays Terran.
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
November 11 2011 14:33 GMT
#217
Chika:: yes the game itself is about gtting better and having fun. But when you throw in 10k and say these are the best 6 girls in the world is when it starts to get shady.
Ditto
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2 Posts
November 11 2011 15:17 GMT
#218
Go Flo!
Same Shit Different Day All Day Everyday
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
November 11 2011 15:25 GMT
#219
FLO ofc
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
November 11 2011 16:05 GMT
#220
- Definitely need to work on the stream quality, was pretty disappointing.
- Need to work on the first day's format. Three games and we didn't get to see all 6 of the competitors? Really? At least there'll be a round robin tomorrow.
- Need to include at least one experienced caster. I think it's nice to have KellyMilkies or Livinpink as a commentator, but neither of them really has a lot of experience casting a major event. Between the two girls, there was absolutely no excitement or energy coming through. Grab a good, fun, play-by-play guy like Husky or TotalBiscuit to help round out the casting team (I'd say Artosis, but I have a worry that at some point during the games he'd just blurt out "These two are terrible", which would kinda hurt the event.)

I'd also love to see a larger invite list for that sort of prize pool, but I can understand the costs involved in sending that many people to China.
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