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Hey guys! If you want to argue that this tourney is "sexist" please make your own thread about it.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
November 10 2011 23:31 GMT
#101
Hopefully we can get some good games from these players.

Guess I'll be cheering for home country girl until i see some of these matches.
Ai.Cola
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany236 Posts
November 10 2011 23:34 GMT
#102
Colagirl, nice nickname.
check out my stream: http://www.own3d.tv/live/103247/Alien-Invasion_Cola HotS Terran, Grandmaster
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
November 10 2011 23:40 GMT
#103
Will definately watch this if I can, I'm really interested to see the standard of female gaming.

No reason why one of these women can't win a GSL in the next couple of years! :D
My wife for hire! - Zealot
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9050 Posts
November 10 2011 23:40 GMT
#104
All of them looks Asian except daSakura.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
November 10 2011 23:49 GMT
#105
Nice, too bad their are no "toss-girls" ^^
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 10 2011 23:57 GMT
#106
On November 11 2011 08:30 Kergy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 11 2011 08:25 Shel wrote:
The OP is sexist. Period. I'm not saying the tournament is sexist. Look at the girls involved. They're all very good looking. So are the casters. One of the girls is a diamond player. How exactly did she make the list of the best female gamers in the world? This tournament is a publicity stunt. He said there were 12 girls considered. I want to see the list of the other 6. Let me see if you weeded them out based on looks or talent, cause you have a very good looking DIAMOND player in a tourney for 10k and you're claiming she has a chance. Are you ignorant or manipulative? This seems like a publicity stunt to me, operating under the idea that sex sells. I mean, even the format is terrible, and doesn't make sense for the largest prize pool in a female only tournament in the history of SC2.

The reason I say the OP is sexist is simple. He's saying that we need female only tournaments for women to join the scene. First off, women aren't going to have any idea these tournaments exist unless they're already PART of the scene. Secondly, this implies that women need special treatment, segregation, to be interested in gaming. Who here believes that? Look at Clan PMS. These girls are amazing. They compete, and sometimes dominate, in a myriad of different games. They do it for the competition, for the fun, for the comraderie, because they have passion for the game and gaming in general. Do you think a single one of the women in this tournament think the themselves "well, I was going to practice hard and play in tournaments, but I can't because I'm just a girl, and girls can't compete with guys". The OP is suggesting they do. That's sexist.

Women who play video games are GAMERS. Period. The reason there are few women at the higher levels of SC2 is unknowable, but what we do know is that the percentage of women versus men is infintesimal. There are maybe, what, 3 dozen amazing SC2 players in the entire world? 5 dozen maybe? The reason women aren't represented isn't because women can't compete, that they are somehow disabled as the OP would suggest. Women aren't represented because of odds. Even out the number of men and women who play SC2 competitively, and there will be relatively the same number of women as men in the champ bracket of major tournaments. Guaranteed.


No. There are few 'good' female players because SC2's target demographic is made up of mostly males.

Plus, I don't anyone here clicked the thread because they wanted to "rethink their morals" or see some dude whining because people are enjoying something he doesn't. People came here for entertainment and good games

aphrodite fighting!



I could give a fuck why people come to this post. I'm responding to the claims of the OP. And what makes you think I don't enjoy watching tournaments? As for the "target demographic" of SC2, it doesn't appear you actually know what that means. Because it sounds like you're saying Blizzard created this game for guys, which is patently untrue. They made it for gamers, casual and hardcore alike, just like they always do.

Look, if you don't want to engage in a "moral" discussion about the OP, then don't. But don't be an asshole either.
There is no spoon
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
November 10 2011 23:57 GMT
#107
Gl to DaSakura and Flo ^^ ~~ Sad you're gonna miss the iron lady this Saturday though ><
Progamer
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 00:02:22
November 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#108
Edit: Never mind, I do not want to fuel this silly discussion. Hope the tournament goes well!
ROOTDdoRo
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada134 Posts
November 11 2011 00:07 GMT
#109
poor tt1
AlexCMoi
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada69 Posts
November 11 2011 00:10 GMT
#110
Why Poor TT1 ? Losing to a girl isnt insulting... also I was there when she played TT1 on ladder and it was a rape. End of the conversation.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 11 2011 00:11 GMT
#111
On November 11 2011 08:25 Shel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

The OP is sexist. Period. I'm not saying the tournament is sexist. Look at the girls involved. They're all very good looking. So are the casters. One of the girls is a diamond player. How exactly did she make the list of the best female gamers in the world? This tournament is a publicity stunt. He said there were 12 girls considered. I want to see the list of the other 6. Let me see if you weeded them out based on looks or talent, cause you have a very good looking DIAMOND player in a tourney for 10k and you're claiming she has a chance. Are you ignorant or manipulative? This seems like a publicity stunt to me, operating under the idea that sex sells. I mean, even the format is terrible, and doesn't make sense for the largest prize pool in a female only tournament in the history of SC2.

The reason I say the OP is sexist is simple. He's saying that we need female only tournaments for women to join the scene. First off, women aren't going to have any idea these tournaments exist unless they're already PART of the scene. Secondly, this implies that women need special treatment, segregation, to be interested in gaming. Who here believes that? Look at Clan PMS. These girls are amazing. They compete, and sometimes dominate, in a myriad of different games. They do it for the competition, for the fun, for the comraderie, because they have passion for the game and gaming in general. Do you think a single one of the women in this tournament think the themselves "well, I was going to practice hard and play in tournaments, but I can't because I'm just a girl, and girls can't compete with guys". The OP is suggesting they do. That's sexist.

Women who play video games are GAMERS. Period. The reason there are few women at the higher levels of SC2 is unknowable, but what we do know is that the percentage of women versus men is infintesimal. There are maybe, what, 3 dozen amazing SC2 players in the entire world? 5 dozen maybe? The reason women aren't represented isn't because women can't compete, that they are somehow disabled as the OP would suggest. Women aren't represented because of odds. Even out the number of men and women who play SC2 competitively, and there will be relatively the same number of women as men in the champ bracket of major tournaments. Guaranteed.

Interesting point,
The fact is this will help,
and the underrepresented and challenge facing sex can use help.
The OP doesn't say that women need help, just that this will help women.
And your post did more harm to women in gaming than the wording of the OP.
Be positive.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
MennoHermit
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada15 Posts
November 11 2011 00:12 GMT
#112
On November 11 2011 08:25 Shel wrote:
The OP is sexist. Period. I'm not saying the tournament is sexist. Look at the girls involved. They're all very good looking. So are the casters. One of the girls is a diamond player. How exactly did she make the list of the best female gamers in the world? This tournament is a publicity stunt. He said there were 12 girls considered. I want to see the list of the other 6. Let me see if you weeded them out based on looks or talent, cause you have a very good looking DIAMOND player in a tourney for 10k and you're claiming she has a chance. Are you ignorant or manipulative? This seems like a publicity stunt to me, operating under the idea that sex sells. I mean, even the format is terrible, and doesn't make sense for the largest prize pool in a female only tournament in the history of SC2.

The reason I say the OP is sexist is simple. He's saying that we need female only tournaments for women to join the scene. First off, women aren't going to have any idea these tournaments exist unless they're already PART of the scene. Secondly, this implies that women need special treatment, segregation, to be interested in gaming. Who here believes that? Look at Clan PMS. These girls are amazing. They compete, and sometimes dominate, in a myriad of different games. They do it for the competition, for the fun, for the comraderie, because they have passion for the game and gaming in general. Do you think a single one of the women in this tournament think the themselves "well, I was going to practice hard and play in tournaments, but I can't because I'm just a girl, and girls can't compete with guys". The OP is suggesting they do. That's sexist.

Women who play video games are GAMERS. Period. The reason there are few women at the higher levels of SC2 is unknowable, but what we do know is that the percentage of women versus men is infintesimal. There are maybe, what, 3 dozen amazing SC2 players in the entire world? 5 dozen maybe? The reason women aren't represented isn't because women can't compete, that they are somehow disabled as the OP would suggest. Women aren't represented because of odds. Even out the number of men and women who play SC2 competitively, and there will be relatively the same number of women as men in the champ bracket of major tournaments. Guaranteed.



Give
Me
A
Break
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
November 11 2011 00:12 GMT
#113
On November 11 2011 07:34 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 05:32 Waxangel wrote:
SlayerS_Eve I assume is at the G-Star Convention in Korea, which is going on right now (also where the AoL II tourney is being played)


really? I thought it had to do with that special slayers couple event tommorrow.


I think that's taking place at G-Star
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 00:17:27
November 11 2011 00:13 GMT
#114
some hotties. Will there be a bikini contest afterwards?

I'm kidding, I'm looking forward to seeing how talented they are. Kind of a shame that I don't get to see their faces at other lans more often? Why a female only tournament? Wouldn't that prove nothing? I'd rather see them compete with other male sc2 players just to see the difference. anyone else feel the same? seems like a special tournament for themselves will just reinforce that they don't belong with male sc2 gamers, that's just what i'm interpreting here.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 11 2011 00:17 GMT
#115
I wonder who's going to watch this.
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#116
God, you guys don't even see it. Saying women need female tournaments to be drawn to gaming is the same thing as saying women aren't drawn to gaming by major tournaments because they can't compete. He actually said that women need tournaments like this so they can slowly work their way up to a man's level. How in the hell does a tournament improve skill to begin with compared to, say, playing with excellent practice partners, but beyond that, what kind of crap is he saying? It's sexist.
There is no spoon
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
November 11 2011 00:22 GMT
#117
cant miss this
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Shel
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
November 11 2011 00:24 GMT
#118
Whoops, just saw the little note at the top of the page from the mod. I don't know why you're letting the dickhead OP get away with what he's saying, but whatever. Marketing thread it is.
There is no spoon
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 00:34:53
November 11 2011 00:33 GMT
#119
On November 11 2011 09:10 AlexCMoi wrote:
Why Poor TT1 ? Losing to a girl isnt insulting... also I was there when she played TT1 on ladder and it was a rape. End of the conversation.


must be a pretty famous game because ive read 4-5 female related tournament threads and someone always mentions this game and how she beat me, i wanna see the game so plz post the rep.. im sure she has it saved if its something worth talking about in every thread ^^
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
November 11 2011 00:33 GMT
#120
Good luck girls! Show the guys that the girls are able to play on a competitive level too!
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
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