GSL November Code A Ro48 Bracket - Page 11

On November 02 2011 07:50 MonkSEA wrote:


Hey mate, can you read?



Does that answer your question instead of throwing wild accusations at GOM & EG? Please learn to read next time.

EDIT: If you notice, they(IdrA and DeMu) weren't specifically stated that they came from the MLG/GSL league exchange. It just says league exchange.

On November 02 2011 08:12 Derez wrote:


Can you read?

There is only one official league exchange program, which is the GSL-MLG exchange. Demuslim hasn't qualified high enough in any of them to warrant an up/down slot, so no, it does not answer the question. Sase gained his GSL code A slot in the same MLG that Idra did, so he should get the same treatment as Sase. Again, question is not answered.

Maybe inhouse EG tournaments count as part of league exchange now, in which case I'll be expecting incontrol, axslav and strifecro in the next up/down matches. We all know they're good enough, so let's just give them a spot, which is exactly what this feels like. Charity invites ftl.

I don't see how you can claim this is fine from a tournament integrity point of view. I get the rationale, it's just not fair.

On November 02 2011 23:28 NKsc2 wrote:

How did that answer my question in ANY WAY. You're the one that needs to learn to read and get your facts straight. Idra and demuslim got in by a league exchange. There is ONLY ONE official league exchange which is MLG/GSL. I can not come up with ANYTHING other than EG gomTV having some kind of deal. Once again, I'm not accusing anybody, this is just speculations. But that's the only thing I can think of. Bit of a scandal that's never going to reach the public (if that's the case) but w/e.

On November 03 2011 00:15 pezit wrote:


I'm surprised no one else seems to care about this, I guess as long as people get to see their "foreign hopes" in tournaments they don't care how they got there. It does seem like EG has cut a deal with GSL because why else would both of the random invites be from their team?

On November 03 2011 00:28 Oktyabr wrote:


You mean like how FXO.int got to participate in GSTL, or FUnited coming together with 3 foreign players and 3 other Koreans who weren't in the GSL by then? Did those deals seem pretty shady at all considering that none of their players were inside GSL barring Sheth, who was also an invite? How about Sase, where one of his invites was off a CPL second place? Or Jinro, who was offered a free Code A spot when he fell out of the GSL league system entirely?

No. I'm pretty sure GOM is doing smart business by allocating invites in a discretionary manner in order to get more live audience to turn in, and they can use it however they want. There was probably alot of discussion behind the curtains to make the deal fall through, but I doubt GOM was motivated by some physical exchange of cash just so that EG could send 2 players of their own. Mr Chae has already mentioned that he's been more than willing to accommodate *qualified* individuals in the foreigner scene should they make any applications. It's a win-win for everyone, even you and I. GOM needs no extra moolah to invite tip top foreigners into their own league. These invites keep their brand extremely relevant to the foreigner scene - to make sure interest is sustained there.

On a sidenote, how many other foreigner players near the skill level of Sase/IdrA are making their desires to compete in Code A known to GOM?

On November 02 2011 23:31 renaissanceMAN wrote:
forGG is gonna dominate sase

On November 03 2011 01:15 NKsc2 wrote:

What are you talking about? The new teamleague format makes the teamleague open to anybody who wants to attend, there's no ranking system anymore. FXOpen was no exception by any means, nor was foreigner united. I guess we have different stands then. Agree to disagree. I'm against cheating and bribing, you're not, that's all I can say. Even if it means that Idra/demuslim would have to work their way thru code A just like Sase, Naniwa, Sjow, Jinro, SeleCT and everybody else who isn't a part of TeamEG. I don't think being on the richest team should grant you the rights to cutting in line. Unless I get some kind of reason that isn't "well they deserved it anyways, idra worked hard, demuslim broke his leg bla bla" I can say that I've lost all my respect for teamEG and alot of respect for gomTV aswell.

On November 02 2011 23:31 renaissanceMAN wrote:
forGG is gonna dominate sase

On November 03 2011 01:31 Oktyabr wrote:


Missed my point completely. I'm against cheating and bribing too. I'm saying that no cheating/bribing took place and there's no need to bribe GOM to get yourself into any spot in the GSL (barring Code S I suppose) if:

1) You've proven yourself to have a noticeable fanbase.
2) You've had some noticeable results.

Since absolutely no ranking was required to take part in the teamleague, why the hell did they go out of their way to accomodate these foreigners (in the foreigner house for FXOpen) instead of accepting some random unknown Korean team into GSTL? There are a couple of them out there.

By your standards, you should also lose respect for Sase because he got a free Code A spot with some second place finish in CPL. Sase didn't have to go through Code B like a ton of foreigners did - hey that must be unfair! There are also a ton of foreigners out there with first/second place finishes off tournaments of that scale. Why didn't they get an invite into Code A at all?

What does it matter at which stage of the GSL were they inserted into? All it matters is if they're worth the entertainment value given their position and if they're deemed capable by GOM to compete in there.

On November 03 2011 01:47 NKsc2 wrote:

Ok, you're against bribing. But still not against cheating and unfairness. And you're still spewing out lies with every post you make. Sase did NOT get into code A by 2nd place in CPL, he got in there by an agreement with Rakaka.se (swedish e-sport site) and gomTV (sort of like the MLG program except it's a one time tournament financed by rakaka) to have a tournament called "Vägen till Korea" or "Road to Korea" in english. It's a tournament where all swedish top sc2 players fights for a trip to korea, a spot in code A and a guaranteed spot in the gom house. Sase played amazingly and beat naniwa in the finals. So he hearned his spot. He entered a tournament qualifying for code A, won it, earned his spot. Now idra and demuslim still hasn't earned their spot. Once again, you still have no defense for what you're saying. gomTV doesn't do wildcards. When idra gave up his code S spot, the code A had a separate online tournament for the spot, they didn't go "hey, let's give this spot to someone with a big fan base".