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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 24 2011 21:05 GMT
#461
ThorZaiN!
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
LiaT
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden58 Posts
September 24 2011 21:07 GMT
#462
I think throzain deserves to be on top (i voted for him).

Also... in my opppinion Naniwa is better than Idra
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 21:09:29
September 24 2011 21:09 GMT
#463
On September 25 2011 06:05 Termit wrote:
How can Kas be on this list? The man can seriously not win on lan events for some reason and should definitly not be on this list.

Jinro, SjoW and DeMusliM is just a few other Terrans that could replace him ez.


Maybe not won any lan events but Kas but I feel confident saying he is probably the best EU terran besides Thorzain..

I might have huge euro bias but I feel some people from the US don't really belong in that list. Even though it's almost impossible to see who the best foreigner is I wish someone would host a world championship without koreans just to get a better idea.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#464
On September 25 2011 06:02 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 06:00 Belha wrote:
This list makes me miss the old tournaments without korean domination/pressence : (

Btw, Select, american??


Select has always been considered American. He lives and practices on NA server. He just has korean backround in his blood (similar to other NA players)

No he hasn't. It's only a small part of NA players that wants to call him "american" just because NA can barely produce good players and SeleCT happens to be one of few good players on the NA server. Most of the NA players with korean background wasn't born and grew up in Korea like SeleCT. He repped Korea in DoW @ WCG and he uses the korean flag, I doubt he would call himself an american.
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KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
September 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#465
Stephano is so easily better than Sen. Sen has recently lost pretty much everything. Stephano on the other hand just qualified for ipl 3 by knocking out Revival, Puzzle and MMA and those guys deffinitly took the games serious since they wanted to be on ipl for sure! Furthermore his ladder run means quite a lot. Why shouldn`t it mean something when a player can wien 64 out of 65 games against the best european players? And just today he has won the fxo koth with a 4 win streak.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
September 24 2011 21:12 GMT
#466
and for the love of god, select is korean!
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
September 24 2011 21:13 GMT
#467
LOL? Thorzain, wow people must not actually watch his games, he is no better then any random GSL code A Terran.
HUK on the other hand Still managing to stay in code S at a time when Protoss is really weak in Korea, even as the top Korean protosses fall to mediocraty.

He is easily the best foreigner and best Protoss player on the planet.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
September 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#468
How is select so low? X_x
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
September 24 2011 21:16 GMT
#469
HasuObs just beat Stephano, Dimaga and Thorzain, he's not even in the second pool
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 21:18:06
September 24 2011 21:16 GMT
#470
On September 25 2011 06:13 gosuMalicE wrote:
LOL? Thorzain, wow people must not actually watch his games, he is no better then any random GSL code A Terran.
HUK on the other hand Still managing to stay in code S at a time when Protoss is really weak in Korea, even as the top Korean protosses fall to mediocraty.

He is easily the best foreigner and best Protoss player on the planet.


fanboy alert

i'd say thorzain huk sase and maybe stephano all deserve to be called top foreigners. white ra just hasn't shown too many results as of late, and sen is always a mystery since he doesn't participate much. i'd say that sen would be the best foreigner in the world if he lived in korea though.

i'd put my money on huk as of right now. thorzain's still got a lot of room to grow in tvz and tvt. i'd say sase is a lot better than most of you think, i'd say he's top 5 foreigners

select is always a dark horse. he's always there but never top. he won NA blizz tourney but that's about it. i'd like to see more of him, he's definitely got the talent.
cyanide66
Profile Joined September 2010
137 Posts
September 24 2011 21:19 GMT
#471
This is about as accurate as high school elections.
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 21:20:27
September 24 2011 21:19 GMT
#472
HuK is the one who's been in Code S the longest, I don't really care what other results he's had. How MaNa or Kas is on the list is beyond me but whatever.

I find it funny how people say IdrA is on the list when he made it to the Ro8 of the GSL, and was in it for 3 straight seasons. The game may have been newer, but that's still WAY more than any other foreigner except HuK.

Thorzain is prob #3, SeleCT #4.

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DrJohnFever
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada17 Posts
September 24 2011 21:20 GMT
#473
HuK, when on his game, is no doubt the best foreigner. Thorzain and Sen are probably the most consistently good, but my vote goes to Huk
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 21:31:20
September 24 2011 21:25 GMT
#474
I woted for MaNa, because he is dragging Mousesports through all the team leagues.
He's also shown very good results on Assembly, IEM Gamescom.
And he's polish

But as it is right now, i would go with something like this:

Tier 1
Thorzain, Huk, Naniwa, Sen, Ret.

Tier 2
Stephano, Mana, Demuslim, Nerchio, Sase, Dimaga, Major, White-ra, Socke
and maybe Lucifron

Tier 3
Sheth, Morrow, Sjow, Strelok, DDE, Hasuobs, Darkforce, Brat_OK, Goody, qxc, Killer, Kas, Happy, Beastyqt
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
September 24 2011 21:29 GMT
#475
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AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
September 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#476
On September 25 2011 03:56 drgonzhere wrote:
I feel like Stephano is at the same time the most overrated and underrated player in the foreign scene if that makes any sense at all.


I understand what you mean... :p But no doubt he's a beast and will show it at ipl.
Atm Huk didn't even go through the bracket in all the last LAN he attended, (or lost in the first round like in valencia), i don't know how he stays in code S. But i guess sometimes luck matters
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
September 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#477
On September 25 2011 06:19 genius_man16 wrote:
I find it funny how people say IdrA is on the list when he made it to the Ro8 of the GSL, and was in it for 3 straight seasons. The game may have been newer, but that's still WAY more than any other foreigner except HuK.


Maybe he was on GSL in january, but it was 6 month ago...
Jinro have the best (by far, HuK didn't managed to get to ro4) achievements in GSL for a foreigner, but he's slumping hard right now hence he's not on the list (but I would like he gets back to top code S ).
For now I don't feel Idra as a top foreigner, he didn't put really good result for a long time now, and sometimes really loose in embarrassing ways. By the way he keeps thinking that Protoss is OP vs zerg (O_o).
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#478
On September 25 2011 00:56 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:53 skrotcyk wrote:
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


Facerolling through IPL qualifiers, stomping marineking, mma, puzzle, revival etc

Which is online events. Boxer, MC, and a bunch of other Koreans got crushed many times too.


Boxer didnt get crushed in his online events. If anything he played better online than he does offline even with latency.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#479
Mana/SaSe should be so much higher up the list...IdrA shouldn't be in this poll.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
September 24 2011 21:40 GMT
#480
Where is Destiny? D:
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