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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 13:03:32
September 24 2011 12:59 GMT
#361
On September 24 2011 20:34 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 20:28 Boblion wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:13 arQ wrote:
My point was that for many pros out there, it isnt about making money, its about improving and becoming the best at the sport. Hopefully they can make money along the way.

Many top Sc2 players are here for the money. I really doubt that all the former bw / war3 pros or even amateurs would have switched without the $$$ and the easier competition.
I think MVP said something about that in an interview. Now obviously if you want to make money you have to be the one of the best but the first motivation for those guys is money.



IIRC MVP said in an interview that his family is poor, and he saw a better opportunity to make
money in SC2 than in Broodwar. So he switched that he could support his family.

And i think it was a wise choice, considering he was a B-Teamer in Broodwar.


You actually have no clue what you are talking about. He was an A-Teamer on Woongjin stars and qualifying of an OSL and makign the quarters of an MSL in the twilight of his career..
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
September 24 2011 13:06 GMT
#362
On September 24 2011 15:58 minhbq299 wrote:
I dont know if anyone stated this before or the same but here is the win rate on NA ladder,
BcuzofuPros is actually Fnatic.Rain, we can also see that the winrate on American is much higher and there are so many no name on that list --->>> EU>>>> AM by far
[image loading]

Nonge = Major
RebornSAGA = Some korean, don't remember who
The NaDa account demoted himself to bronze last season, and made his way back up, so a lot of his wins were from playing terrible players.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
September 24 2011 13:15 GMT
#363
On September 24 2011 19:24 Dawg_Snow wrote:
Guys, anyone know where i can find the stephano vs MMA vod from ipl qual ?

second that
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 24 2011 13:16 GMT
#364
On September 24 2011 21:59 YoiChiBow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 20:34 Elefanto wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:28 Boblion wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:13 arQ wrote:
My point was that for many pros out there, it isnt about making money, its about improving and becoming the best at the sport. Hopefully they can make money along the way.

Many top Sc2 players are here for the money. I really doubt that all the former bw / war3 pros or even amateurs would have switched without the $$$ and the easier competition.
I think MVP said something about that in an interview. Now obviously if you want to make money you have to be the one of the best but the first motivation for those guys is money.



IIRC MVP said in an interview that his family is poor, and he saw a better opportunity to make
money in SC2 than in Broodwar. So he switched that he could support his family.

And i think it was a wise choice, considering he was a B-Teamer in Broodwar.


You actually have no clue what you are talking about. He was an A-Teamer on Woongjin stars and qualifying of an OSL and makign the quarters of an MSL in the twilight of his career..


Yeah, mvp was probably the most succesfull bw player when he switched, if you don't count the legends like Boxer, Nada or July.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 24 2011 13:26 GMT
#365
On September 24 2011 21:59 YoiChiBow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 20:34 Elefanto wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:28 Boblion wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:13 arQ wrote:
My point was that for many pros out there, it isnt about making money, its about improving and becoming the best at the sport. Hopefully they can make money along the way.

Many top Sc2 players are here for the money. I really doubt that all the former bw / war3 pros or even amateurs would have switched without the $$$ and the easier competition.
I think MVP said something about that in an interview. Now obviously if you want to make money you have to be the one of the best but the first motivation for those guys is money.



IIRC MVP said in an interview that his family is poor, and he saw a better opportunity to make
money in SC2 than in Broodwar. So he switched that he could support his family.

And i think it was a wise choice, considering he was a B-Teamer in Broodwar.


You actually have no clue what you are talking about. He was an A-Teamer on Woongjin stars and qualifying of an OSL and makign the quarters of an MSL in the twilight of his career..

He was an A teamer but he wasn't making a lot of money. Woonjiin was always the worst/poorest team with Estro and he wasn't even the best player here. Obviously he wasn't famous enough to get money with advertising and qualifying for an OSL doesn't pay enough compared to a GSL win or even #2.
So yea switching was more profitable.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
KillerUnit
Profile Joined April 2011
United States49 Posts
September 24 2011 13:34 GMT
#366
On September 24 2011 22:06 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 15:58 minhbq299 wrote:
I dont know if anyone stated this before or the same but here is the win rate on NA ladder,
BcuzofuPros is actually Fnatic.Rain, we can also see that the winrate on American is much higher and there are so many no name on that list --->>> EU>>>> AM by far
[image loading]

Nonge = Major
RebornSAGA = Some korean, don't remember who
The NaDa account demoted himself to bronze last season, and made his way back up, so a lot of his wins were from playing terrible players.


Actually RebornSAGA is an American player who is in charge with keeping tournaments over at playhem organized and well run. I have participated in many tournaments and spoken with him multiple times and can assure you he is indeed American and not Korean.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
September 24 2011 13:44 GMT
#367
On September 24 2011 22:26 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 21:59 YoiChiBow wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:34 Elefanto wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:28 Boblion wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:13 arQ wrote:
My point was that for many pros out there, it isnt about making money, its about improving and becoming the best at the sport. Hopefully they can make money along the way.

Many top Sc2 players are here for the money. I really doubt that all the former bw / war3 pros or even amateurs would have switched without the $$$ and the easier competition.
I think MVP said something about that in an interview. Now obviously if you want to make money you have to be the one of the best but the first motivation for those guys is money.



IIRC MVP said in an interview that his family is poor, and he saw a better opportunity to make
money in SC2 than in Broodwar. So he switched that he could support his family.

And i think it was a wise choice, considering he was a B-Teamer in Broodwar.


You actually have no clue what you are talking about. He was an A-Teamer on Woongjin stars and qualifying of an OSL and makign the quarters of an MSL in the twilight of his career..

He was an A teamer but he wasn't making a lot of money. Woonjiin was always the worst/poorest team with Estro and he wasn't even the best player here. Obviously he wasn't famous enough to get money with advertising and qualifying for an OSL doesn't pay enough compared to a GSL win or even #2.
So yea switching was more profitable.


I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I was just pointing out that he wasn't a B teamer like the person was presuming.
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 14:48:18
September 24 2011 13:47 GMT
#368
On September 24 2011 22:34 KillerUnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 22:06 eourcs wrote:
On September 24 2011 15:58 minhbq299 wrote:
I dont know if anyone stated this before or the same but here is the win rate on NA ladder,
BcuzofuPros is actually Fnatic.Rain, we can also see that the winrate on American is much higher and there are so many no name on that list --->>> EU>>>> AM by far
[image loading]

Nonge = Major
RebornSAGA = Some korean, don't remember who
The NaDa account demoted himself to bronze last season, and made his way back up, so a lot of his wins were from playing terrible players.


Actually RebornSAGA is an American player who is in charge with keeping tournaments over at playhem organized and well run. I have participated in many tournaments and spoken with him multiple times and can assure you he is indeed American and not Korean.


I thought he didn't actually play, and just gave his account to a korean, kinda like kOre gave his account to Pheonix. Could be wrong though.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
MassacrisM
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
September 24 2011 14:50 GMT
#369
Stephano's mass ling style is mind blowing to watch. Being a gm myself I tried it once on ladder and failed miserably =/
" One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision " - Bertrand Russell
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
September 24 2011 17:58 GMT
#370
Lal, Stephano Defeated Kas in the Koth with lings only against marine tank. Kas reaction: What a joke. Seriously lings are so op in Stephano's hands!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 18:01:42
September 24 2011 18:01 GMT
#371
On September 24 2011 22:34 KillerUnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 22:06 eourcs wrote:
On September 24 2011 15:58 minhbq299 wrote:
I dont know if anyone stated this before or the same but here is the win rate on NA ladder,
BcuzofuPros is actually Fnatic.Rain, we can also see that the winrate on American is much higher and there are so many no name on that list --->>> EU>>>> AM by far
[image loading]

Nonge = Major
RebornSAGA = Some korean, don't remember who
The NaDa account demoted himself to bronze last season, and made his way back up, so a lot of his wins were from playing terrible players.


Actually RebornSAGA is an American player who is in charge with keeping tournaments over at playhem organized and well run. I have participated in many tournaments and spoken with him multiple times and can assure you he is indeed American and not Korean.


95% sure RebornSAGA is played by Artist since he used to stream from it before he got his RGN account.

And yeah, watching Stephano beat Kas with pure ling was just ridiculous lol
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
September 24 2011 18:04 GMT
#372
On September 24 2011 22:26 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 21:59 YoiChiBow wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:34 Elefanto wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:28 Boblion wrote:
On September 24 2011 20:13 arQ wrote:
My point was that for many pros out there, it isnt about making money, its about improving and becoming the best at the sport. Hopefully they can make money along the way.

Many top Sc2 players are here for the money. I really doubt that all the former bw / war3 pros or even amateurs would have switched without the $$$ and the easier competition.
I think MVP said something about that in an interview. Now obviously if you want to make money you have to be the one of the best but the first motivation for those guys is money.



IIRC MVP said in an interview that his family is poor, and he saw a better opportunity to make
money in SC2 than in Broodwar. So he switched that he could support his family.

And i think it was a wise choice, considering he was a B-Teamer in Broodwar.


You actually have no clue what you are talking about. He was an A-Teamer on Woongjin stars and qualifying of an OSL and makign the quarters of an MSL in the twilight of his career..

He was an A teamer but he wasn't making a lot of money. Woonjiin was always the worst/poorest team with Estro and he wasn't even the best player here. Obviously he wasn't famous enough to get money with advertising and qualifying for an OSL doesn't pay enough compared to a GSL win or even #2.
So yea switching was more profitable.


Doesn't change the fact that your are spouting false statements. Please do some research before making claims in the future.
Wire
Profile Joined July 2009
United States494 Posts
September 24 2011 18:05 GMT
#373
reminds me of kobe when he got a lot of flak for being accused of rape. do what he does best, at an even better pace
"You sacced your ovie, which is great, but then you didn't watch it die, which is bad :("
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
September 24 2011 18:08 GMT
#374
Ok, obviously Stephano is really good, but I don't see a point in making a topic for everyone who goes #1 on the EU ladder. Today Mana on his stream went 18-1 or something, so why not make a topic about that too?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
September 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#375
On September 24 2011 22:26 Boblion wrote:

He was an A teamer but he wasn't making a lot of money. Woonjiin was always the worst/poorest team with Estro and he wasn't even the best player here.


he was the best terran we had quite comfortably
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Zalithian
Profile Joined June 2011
520 Posts
September 24 2011 18:20 GMT
#376
Let's hop aboard the hype train. Except not. Congrats to Stephano though I guess? Doesn't mean much to me unless is translates into some real world result.
Mairou
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland144 Posts
September 24 2011 18:22 GMT
#377
Ladder Bonjwa Stephano
eSports! www.youtube.com/MairouTV
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
September 24 2011 18:23 GMT
#378
On September 24 2011 22:34 KillerUnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 22:06 eourcs wrote:
On September 24 2011 15:58 minhbq299 wrote:
I dont know if anyone stated this before or the same but here is the win rate on NA ladder,
BcuzofuPros is actually Fnatic.Rain, we can also see that the winrate on American is much higher and there are so many no name on that list --->>> EU>>>> AM by far
[image loading]

Nonge = Major
RebornSAGA = Some korean, don't remember who
The NaDa account demoted himself to bronze last season, and made his way back up, so a lot of his wins were from playing terrible players.


Actually RebornSAGA is an American player who is in charge with keeping tournaments over at playhem organized and well run. I have participated in many tournaments and spoken with him multiple times and can assure you he is indeed American and not Korean.


In that case I think he might be lending somebody else his account once in a while, as I can guarantee I've seen that nickname pop up when I've downloaded replays of two korean players duking out out. Can't remember who exactly.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
September 24 2011 18:28 GMT
#379
On September 25 2011 03:05 Wire wrote:
reminds me of kobe when he got a lot of flak for being accused of rape. do what he does best, at an even better pace


You mean the year he went to the finals as a huge favourite and shot his team out of the series, losing in five cos he averaged 37% from the field while insisting on taking over 22 shots per game? Oh yeah and he was playing with an all time great center who shot 62% that series but was only given 16 shots per game.

Plus I don't really understand the analogy anyway since presumably you think Kobe was not guilty of the rape* meanwhile Stephano is basically entirely to blame for the whole Millenium situation and deserving of pretty much all of the flack he took as a result.

* which btw he was not acquitted of, he settled out of court.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 24 2011 18:30 GMT
#380
On September 25 2011 03:08 Joseph123 wrote:
Ok, obviously Stephano is really good, but I don't see a point in making a topic for everyone who goes #1 on the EU ladder. Today Mana on his stream went 18-1 or something, so why not make a topic about that too?

because he still has 46 wins to go

duh?
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