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[KGS]Slacker
Profile Joined November 2009
Denmark82 Posts
September 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#141
Sick line up, really looking forward to watching the games!
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
September 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#142
I feel so bad for TB every time I here about him still having visa issues .
I would love to see him cast this event so much!
Nukm_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany104 Posts
September 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#143
this deserves so much more hype, going to be awesome
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#144
On September 22 2011 04:50 Fermats_last wrote:
Who is Doa going to be casting with? Him and wolf are like my favourite caster combo ever :D aah this event just gets better and better.

Ryung has such a good group, easily first place :D MC has dropped off, and Ryungs TvT is ungodly.
Hope STC does well too, haven't seen him around much recently.

Nah MC will beat ryung he's like 4-0 against him and his teamleague win was pretty recent too. Ryung not that great vP.
Cashmere
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia66 Posts
September 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#145
You guys have really stepped it up a notch.

The IPL Prime stream features are just amazing - First person view during a tourney >.> Wow.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:54:36
September 21 2011 19:54 GMT
#146
I'm trying to find more info about the open bracket

The main event will be a 32 player Single Elimination championship tournament. The 32 spots for the main tournament will be determined as follows:

8 spots from 4 Global Online Qualifiers through Playhem.
16 spots decided by a 256 person Double Elimination Qualifiers on the venue.
8 spots reserved for invited players.
Four groups of 4 (each group consisting of 2 invitees and 2 from online qualifiers) will battle it out. This will determine the seeds into the Championship Bracket.

This is what I get from Liquipedia. Playing out groups just for seeding seems a bit over the top. Am I missing something here?
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ForTheDream
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany1780 Posts
September 21 2011 19:54 GMT
#147
Ryung hwaiting!!
please win your first tournament :D
In BurNIng we trust.
FlyingDJ
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 19:55:51
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#148
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?

So stoked for this event sick players gonna be there. Hope you get a big crowd show up too!

Tzain and Pokerface terran wwwhhhaaiiting! (Ryung)


Here's the explanation why TB does not get a visa easily: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183443&currentpage=12#225

Looks like a great event, looking forward to attending!
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#149
On September 22 2011 04:24 HoldenR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:17 Sea_Food wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.


Draw yourself a picture, because you seem to be missing it. They're doing it quite well, and despite all of your credentials in running tournaments and making them large successes, I'm positive they'll do well without your input.

Man, first I was just explaining how I think that a part of the format was silly. But with current infromation we know that the format is just stupid and will favor players that got lower seed from where ever they qualified, than players who got higher seed from the same place. Now I have never ran a turnament or even made a backet but I know, and so should peolple who run a 100k turment know that you cannot mix 2seeds of players from the beginning and make a brcket that doesnt screw some players hard. Whats even more retarded that IGN could have easily avoided this issue by for example, not giving seeds to players from open bracket.
Fermats_last
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
England336 Posts
September 21 2011 19:58 GMT
#150
On September 22 2011 04:53 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:50 Fermats_last wrote:
Who is Doa going to be casting with? Him and wolf are like my favourite caster combo ever :D aah this event just gets better and better.

Ryung has such a good group, easily first place :D MC has dropped off, and Ryungs TvT is ungodly.
Hope STC does well too, haven't seen him around much recently.

Nah MC will beat ryung he's like 4-0 against him and his teamleague win was pretty recent too. Ryung not that great vP.


Which GSTL week was that? Gonna go and watch it now haha. I was just basing it off MC's recent lack of form and Ryungs win vs Puzzle last Code S season
The road goes ever ever on, down from the door where it began
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
September 21 2011 19:58 GMT
#151
Awesome, groups look nasty hard
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
September 21 2011 19:59 GMT
#152
The premium stuff looks freaking awesome, will definitely be purchasing for this event to see the first person and roaming cameras to get the full experience of their first live event. Looks absolutely sick, needs more hype.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
beebop123
Profile Joined August 2011
4 Posts
September 21 2011 19:59 GMT
#153
now THIS is a tournament, one that has players who deserve to be in pool play, unlike incontrol, dont know what he's still doing around in nasl and mlg.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#154
On September 22 2011 04:55 FlyingDJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:18 Benjef wrote:
Wait so how dAppolo get a Visa but not Tbiscuit O.O?

So stoked for this event sick players gonna be there. Hope you get a big crowd show up too!

Tzain and Pokerface terran wwwhhhaaiiting! (Ryung)


Here's the explanation why TB does not get a visa easily: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183443&currentpage=12#225

Looks like a great event, looking forward to attending!


Damn...... Wow that just sucks.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Mirhi
Profile Joined February 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 20:08:49
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#155
On September 22 2011 04:55 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:24 HoldenR wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:17 Sea_Food wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:01 Joshy.IGN wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:59 Ownos wrote:
The pic would hint that open bracket players are seeded at the other end of the bracket. An open player will likely not face any invitees until the finals. The open bracket players are likely seeded based on their finish too.

If you follow any real life sports, you will know seeding means a lot and yes people do lose on purpose to get a different seed (but of course they will hide this fact and mostly just finger pointing by fans).

This is all correct. The open bracket winner (aka the STRONGEST open player) will be facing one of the four LOWEST group players. The group winners will be facing the 13, 14, 15, 16 seeds from the open bracket, which could easily be mid-tier players.


But wait how will that work then afterwards? Using bracket knowledge I know that what you just said makes things 1000 times worse. You either have to make the open bracket winner potentially face a group play winner in the Ro16, OR you will have to place the group play 4th placers far away from the group play winners.

You either have to make open bracket winner get a much worse spot to reach Ro8 of championship bracket, than players that got spots 5-12 from open bracket. Or you have to give players who finish last in their group play better spot to reach Ro8 than players that got 2nd or 3rd from their group.


Draw yourself a picture, because you seem to be missing it. They're doing it quite well, and despite all of your credentials in running tournaments and making them large successes, I'm positive they'll do well without your input.

Man, first I was just explaining how I think that a part of the format was silly. But with current infromation we know that the format is just stupid and will favor players that got lower seed from where ever they qualified, than players who got higher seed from the same place. Now I have never ran a turnament or even made a backet but I know, and so should peolple who run a 100k turment know that you cannot mix 2seeds of players from the beginning and make a brcket that doesnt screw some players hard. Whats even more retarded that IGN could have easily avoided this issue by for example, not giving seeds to players from open bracket.


I can't even being to explain the seeding algorithm we used to even it out, but players with higher seeds from Open Bracket and higher seeds from the Group Play have significantly easier brackets than do the lower seeds (as it should be).
Esportsing really hard | www.twitter.com/ffmirhi
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#156
On September 22 2011 04:58 Fermats_last wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:53 Olinim wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:50 Fermats_last wrote:
Who is Doa going to be casting with? Him and wolf are like my favourite caster combo ever :D aah this event just gets better and better.

Ryung has such a good group, easily first place :D MC has dropped off, and Ryungs TvT is ungodly.
Hope STC does well too, haven't seen him around much recently.

Nah MC will beat ryung he's like 4-0 against him and his teamleague win was pretty recent too. Ryung not that great vP.


Which GSTL week was that? Gonna go and watch it now haha. I was just basing it off MC's recent lack of form and Ryungs win vs Puzzle last Code S season

It was the second to last week oGs vs slayers.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#157
groups 2 3 and 4 are literallly just death
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
September 21 2011 20:02 GMT
#158
On September 22 2011 04:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I'm trying to find more info about the open bracket

Show nested quote +
The main event will be a 32 player Single Elimination championship tournament. The 32 spots for the main tournament will be determined as follows:

8 spots from 4 Global Online Qualifiers through Playhem.
16 spots decided by a 256 person Double Elimination Qualifiers on the venue.
8 spots reserved for invited players.
Four groups of 4 (each group consisting of 2 invitees and 2 from online qualifiers) will battle it out. This will determine the seeds into the Championship Bracket.

This is what I get from Liquipedia. Playing out groups just for seeding seems a bit over the top. Am I missing something here?

Maybe they want to use a system similar to MLG's and the "seeding" is actually very important?
Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 20:03:54
September 21 2011 20:03 GMT
#159
On September 22 2011 05:01 Mattchew wrote:
groups 2 3 and 4 are literallly just death



group 1 is easy right?
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 21 2011 20:06 GMT
#160
Insane.
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