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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
Want my key! | ||
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Cargocult
France15 Posts
The only damage Col received from this is due to their hasty announcement, not even waiting for Millenium to be informed and letting them make a goodbye message which leads one to suppose that they thought that if they didn't close the deal as fast as possible they had little chance to sway Stephano away from his team. Also in order to properly contract a French citizen you need a contract that is written in both English and French and more importantly that satisfies French law, I don't see how this is even a matter of controversy. This has simply turned into a excuse to engage in some thinly veiled France and US bashing. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:34 Tofugrinder wrote: and your pro France bullshit is not a bit better than the pro USA bullshit. fuck off nations, this shouldn't be part of e-sports - but appearently the Millenium guys have a different opinion on that. I hope they really have to pay lots of money for the crap they created I am not pro France in this regard, French's justice is as bad as US' justice in my opinion, and if you consider Mill & Stephano the eSport definition of France, then I do think they acted rather immature in this specific situation : CoL feel robbed and they have the right to think so, but I suppose going to court is a bit too much, an apology should be enough. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:07 haduken wrote: Stephano certainly did himself no favors. Which team is going to look his way when big money comes up for a new player? Idra is far to be the most respectfull and manner man in the world, that never closed him any door, because he is a very good player. Same for Naniwa 10 month ago when everybody was blaming his behaviour (he is a nice guy now). If their behaviour didn't cost them anything, i've no reason to worried about Stephano's futur  | ||
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JulsFoF
49 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:18 Agathon wrote: Idra is far to be the most respectfull and manner man in the world, that never closed him any door, because he is a very good player. Same for Naniwa 10 month ago when everybody was blaming his behaviour (he is a nice guy now). If their behaviour didn't cost them anything, i've no reason to worried about Stephano's futur NOT true naniwa was kicked out of 2 teams and the german esl pro serias because of his bahaviour. but u are rigth that because of hes a good player he got sigthed by dignitas. but back to topic i think its rather disturbing that a player thinks he can just ignore a contract and do what ever he wants to. if e sports ever want to reach that kind of professionalism that basketball football and so on have these things mustn't happen. | ||
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Disdain
Denmark26 Posts
TL:DR; Whether or not the french law is on Milleniums side, they are by no means right in their actions, clearly keeping Stephano means more to them though - so I hope it was worth it, considering how much they just lost in bad publicity. | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:24 JulsFoF wrote: NOT true naniwa was kicked out of 2 teams and the german esl pro serias because of his bahaviour. but u are rigth that because of hes a good player he got sigthed by dignitas. but back to topic i think its rather disturbing that a player thinks he can just ignore a contract and do what ever he wants to. if e sports ever want to reach that kind of professionalism that basketball football and so on have these things mustn't happen. Yes and players need someone to protect their interests and give them advices for their career (like Union, Agents, Lawyers, etc...). It doesn"t exist atm. E Sport is very young. It's not surprising it fails from time to time. No reason for a drama like this one BTW. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
COME ON ! Stephano is young, he fucked up hard, coL's manager cryed a little bit but i really don't think this deserves 3k posts of hating O_o. Are we just in real world? I mean no one died, when i read this thread i got the feeling a crowd of angry men will brake him into little pieces when he'll travel to MLG (if CIA don't arrest him at the airport). Calm down, he didn't eat your mothers.  | ||
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:23 AIOL! wrote: I don't understand people who cares so much about this that they "wish Stephano and Millenium will never be able to play a competition anymore and the guy will only play Go4sc2 until the end of his miserable existance !" COME ON ! Stephano is young, he fucked up hard, coL's manager cryed a little bit but i really don't think this deserves 3k posts of hating O_o. Are we just in real world? I mean no one died, when i read this thread i got the feeling a crowd of angry men will brake him into little pieces when he'll travel to MLG (if CIA don't arrest him at the airport). Calm down, he didn't eat your mothers. I think it's just more of a passion for e-sports thing than anything else. You tend to care a lot about what's going on on the things you really care about. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:23 AIOL! wrote: I don't understand people who cares so much about this that they "wish Stephano and Millenium will never be able to play a competition anymore and the guy will only play Go4sc2 until the end of his miserable existance !" COME ON ! Stephano is young, he fucked up hard, coL's manager cryed a little bit but i really don't think this deserves 3k posts of hating O_o. Are we just in real world? I mean no one died, when i read this thread i got the feeling a crowd of angry men will brake him into little pieces when he'll travel to MLG (if CIA don't arrest him at the airport). Calm down, he didn't eat your mothers. So people should be angry with someone, only if he kills somebody Ok | ||
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Jongl0
631 Posts
And Millenium doesn't seem to be all that professional either. | ||
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:23 AIOL! wrote: I don't understand people who cares so much about this that they "wish Stephano and Millenium will never be able to play a competition anymore and the guy will only play Go4sc2 until the end of his miserable existance !" COME ON ! Stephano is young, he fucked up hard, coL's manager cryed a little bit but i really don't think this deserves 3k posts of hating O_o. Are we just in real world? I mean no one died, when i read this thread i got the feeling a crowd of angry men will brake him into little pieces when he'll travel to MLG (if CIA don't arrest him at the airport). Calm down, he didn't eat your mothers. Out of interest what age is the age of majority in your imaginary world? I find it very interesting that all people stress that Stephano is so young (allegedly) when he is in fact old enough to be legally and morally responsible for his actions. Regarding the other stuff in your post, you should probably consider how silly the internet is in general, some minor scandal like this is enough to spawn 10 days of nerd rage at the very least, until the next piece of interest comes along. | ||
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JustinMartin
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Luisa_2
Germany200 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:18 Agathon wrote: Idra is far to be the most respectfull and manner man in the world, that never closed him any door, because he is a very good player. Same for Naniwa 10 month ago when everybody was blaming his behaviour (he is a nice guy now). If their behaviour didn't cost them anything, i've no reason to worried about Stephano's futur I think when a player goes back on his own WRITTEN word so deliberately, it's probably a bit more serious than in-game BM and/or behavioral issues. Make no mistake, there will be a backslash against this type of unethical, shitty attitude. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:08 Tula wrote: Out of interest what age is the age of majority in your imaginary world? I find it very interesting that all people stress that Stephano is so young (allegedly) when he is in fact old enough to be legally and morally responsible for his actions. Regarding the other stuff in your post, you should probably consider how silly the internet is in general, some minor scandal like this is enough to spawn 10 days of nerd rage at the very least, until the next piece of interest comes along. I see this all the time, and yes, 18 is the legal adult age it says very little about how grown up a person is. Going from a protected environment in high school directly to signing contracts for alot of money can be hard. Especially if the person isn't sure on what they want in the future (move, travel etc). | ||
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lightbetsoin
France7 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45212 Posts
On September 21 2011 22:18 Agathon wrote: Idra is far to be the most respectfull and manner man in the world, that never closed him any door, because he is a very good player. Same for Naniwa 10 month ago when everybody was blaming his behaviour (he is a nice guy now). If their behaviour didn't cost them anything, i've no reason to worried about Stephano's futur There's a huge difference between having a temper and going back on contracts. Not every country has these legal loopholes, ya know. | ||
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