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Starcraft 2 Science: Skillcraft's Study - Page 9

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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
September 12 2011 23:03 GMT
#161
On September 13 2011 07:51 CrushDog5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On September 13 2011 07:30 Vul wrote:[/B

It's hard to say what's better or worse IMO. I think its obvious that, say, reading, playing sports and playing SC2 are all good for kids, but it's hard to know the right amounts. For example, maybe playing SC2 is better than the sixth reading of Harry Potter, but what about the first, or second reading? Will someone get more out of being competitive at an SC2 tournament, or a tennis tournament?

In my opinion SC2 isn't outright better than any of those things, but it would be a cool way to spend your free time as a kid.

edit: kids have a lot of free time though, haha



It's the mix that matters, as you say.

My point is that every parent I know would have no problem forcing their kids to go run around outside, or practice piano, or read a book, but none of them would insist that their children play a video game.


While the forum seems to have your attention Dr., would you mind explaining a bit what you think separates the very top players from one another? My uneducated view is that 'talent' plays a role mostly in the very lowest and very highest extremes of the skill range. I'm sure you've heard this before, so I won't go into detail, but do you think 'talent' separates the very top, or do they maybe practice more/better?
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berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
September 12 2011 23:06 GMT
#162
haha cool idea but disliekt he idea of training child to play sc2, because i am struggling to win and dont want all ppl beating me t>T good work
:(
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
September 12 2011 23:08 GMT
#163
On September 13 2011 08:03 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 07:51 CrushDog5 wrote:
[B]On September 13 2011 07:30 Vul wrote:[/B

It's hard to say what's better or worse IMO. I think its obvious that, say, reading, playing sports and playing SC2 are all good for kids, but it's hard to know the right amounts. For example, maybe playing SC2 is better than the sixth reading of Harry Potter, but what about the first, or second reading? Will someone get more out of being competitive at an SC2 tournament, or a tennis tournament?

In my opinion SC2 isn't outright better than any of those things, but it would be a cool way to spend your free time as a kid.

edit: kids have a lot of free time though, haha



It's the mix that matters, as you say.

My point is that every parent I know would have no problem forcing their kids to go run around outside, or practice piano, or read a book, but none of them would insist that their children play a video game.


While the forum seems to have your attention Dr., would you mind explaining a bit what you think separates the very top players from one another? My uneducated view is that 'talent' plays a role mostly in the very lowest and very highest extremes of the skill range. I'm sure you've heard this before, so I won't go into detail, but do you think 'talent' separates the very top, or do they maybe practice more/better?

oh btw my parents encourage me to play more sc2 at the age of 20 T.T because they know i dont study well .. and i am in a city college T.T so i m trying to become pro
:(
AEsgaims
Profile Joined November 2010
United States237 Posts
September 12 2011 23:12 GMT
#164
sounds interesting! im interested to see the results :D
Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
September 12 2011 23:15 GMT
#165
Simon Fraser University HWAITING!
Three hundred lives of men I have walked this world, and now I have no time.
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
September 12 2011 23:19 GMT
#166
This sounds cool.
I finished the survey, it took like 2 minutes.
When can we expect results and how many people already filled out a survey?
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
September 12 2011 23:35 GMT
#167
This is sick!!! I participated :D Good to see it's definitely going somewhere. GL and HF with your research!
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jimmydu444
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada250 Posts
September 12 2011 23:48 GMT
#168
lol, SFU.
I believe in Sets, The Rationals, LQG and PoltPrime.WE
Xelus
Profile Joined September 2011
United States16 Posts
September 12 2011 23:54 GMT
#169
Great stuff, hope this gets amazing results!
"A Man Who Loses Everything, Is Capable Of Anything"
Starcraft2Radio
Profile Joined May 2011
United States132 Posts
September 13 2011 00:07 GMT
#170
Sounds pretty cool. I sent you my information.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
September 13 2011 00:09 GMT
#171
Filled out the survey. Can't wait to hear some conclusions
Oh no
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
September 13 2011 00:18 GMT
#172
i got nerd chills after reading the article and the research group's web page... why did i chose theoretical quantum chemistry over this!?

not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
September 13 2011 00:30 GMT
#173
Just completed the questionnaire, etc. This is so interesting. Looking forward to seeing the kind of results come out of it.
Check out my book, The Year in StarCraft II: 2011, http://yearinsc2.com/ :D:D
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 13 2011 00:33 GMT
#174
Already sent in ! GL!
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
September 13 2011 01:18 GMT
#175
Contributed when i first saw this on reddit. For SCIENCE™.
sephirotharg
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
September 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#176
A very interesting study indeed! I'll be eagerly awaiting your results, and I hope that the study will be published someplace I can find it.

I'm interested in how you define expertise, and I'm a bit skeptical about all of the benefits you claim Starcraft has, enough so that I won't be actively encouraging my kids to skip violin practice to analyze IdrA's latest replays.

That said, I would be a liar if I said I didn't love SC2 (and SC:BW, my original love) and if it turns out to be truly beneficial, then who am I to gainsay it?
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
September 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#177
Completed the survey and uploaded a replay
PhsX
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
September 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#178
Completed, uploaded.

One comment I'd like to make is that many people watch professionals play sc2 not just for entertainment but for the educational experience too. Perhaps it couldn't hurt to document how much time people spend watching sc2 also.
Roach-Immortal is pretty good against stalkers.
Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
September 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#179
On September 12 2011 14:42 CrushDog5 wrote:
Why aren’t parents bugging their kids to memorize TvT builds, or practice their 4-gate, or watch replays from their mandatory daily laddering session, or write an essay about how they can improve their game?


Because not every parent is Day[9] :


And to the OP as well: I live in Burnaby, BC and I plan on attending SFU next year... I would love to participate if I could!
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
September 13 2011 02:50 GMT
#180
GO GO SCIENCE! No words can describe how awesome this initiative is.
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