EPTWith Naniwa and Thorzain missing too, it means the EU scene is missing a lot of top players.
Still, excited to see more games out of Huk, Dimaga, DeMuslim and mOOnglade.
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RudePlague
Great Britain113 Posts
With Naniwa and Thorzain missing too, it means the EU scene is missing a lot of top players. Still, excited to see more games out of Huk, Dimaga, DeMuslim and mOOnglade. | ||
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Sphaero
Germany1697 Posts
On August 30 2011 20:53 Atrimex wrote: GoOdy is in siege mode at the moment and at least TOP5 in EU. Look how good Sjow performed @ MLG and he could not win any match against GoOdy in the last months. And GoOdy has one of the largest fanbases in EU due to his playstyle. Without GoOdy, Stephano and Nerchio NASL is missing the top EU players. Looks like an easy way to victory for the remaining korean players. I´m also not happy, that Goody was not invited (just look at my last post in this thread), but the bolded part is simply not true. Don´t get me wrong, Goody, Stephano and Nerchio are all amazing players, but that doesn´t mean that they are on a different level than the other top euros. What makes Stephano or Nerchio better than Ret, who won the EU bnet inv. or Dimaga, who took down the assembly? I truly believe, that any of the five best players of each race in EU can take a series of another one. That makes the EU scene so exciting, because you can not really predict the results. And if I look at the current top Euros, which are IMO (in no particular order): Terran: Kas, Goody, Strelok, Thorzain, Sjow Protoss: Naniwa, Socke, White-ra, Hasuobs, Mana Zerg: Nerchio, Ret, Stephano, Darkforce, Dimaga then only six of them are missing in the NASL, which makes it the most staked tournament after the dreamhack. It will be by no means a walk in the park for the Koreans. Are they the favourites? Sure. Can and will upsets happen? You can bet on it. | ||
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Atrimex
193 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:26 Bobster wrote: edit: Inviting Haypro over Goody makes sense when you adhere to season 1 results, which NASL has done so far. GoOdy has not been invited to season 2 because of some attendance problems in Season 1 due to overlapping events like dreamhack. However, not only GoOdy had this problems and in general, GoOdy is one of more reliable players in sc2. | ||
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sucidem
Germany15 Posts
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Atrimex
193 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:59 Sphaero wrote: I´m also not happy, that Goody was not invited (just look at my last post in this thread), but the bolded part is simply not true. Don´t get me wrong, Goody, Stephano and Nerchio are all amazing players, but that doesn´t mean that they are on a different level than the other top euros. What makes Stephano or Nerchio better than Ret, who won the EU bnet inv. or Dimaga, who took down the assembly? I truly believe, that any of the five best players of each race in EU can take a series of another one. That makes the EU scene so exciting, because you can not really predict the results. And if I look at the current top Euros, which are IMO (in no particular order): Terran: Kas, Goody, Strelok, Thorzain, Sjow Protoss: Naniwa, Socke, White-ra, Hasuobs, Mana Zerg: Nerchio, Ret, Stephano, Darkforce, Dimaga then only six of them are missing in the NASL, which makes it the most staked tournament after the dreamhack. It will be by no means a walk in the park for the Koreans. Are they the favourites? Sure. Can and will upsets happen? You can bet on it. You are right. However, somehow my feeling is that especially Stephano and GoOdy had the potenial to take some games from the korean players. While its obvious that NASL has to invite this mediocre NA Players, I dont understand why they choose some of the medicore EU players over players like GoOdy & Stephano without a good reason. | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
On August 30 2011 22:33 Atrimex wrote: You are right. However, somehow my feeling is that especially Stephano and GoOdy had the potenial to take some games from the korean players. While its obvious that NASL has to invite this mediocre NA Players, I dont understand why they choose some of the medicore EU players over players like GoOdy & Stephano without a good reason. Behold, the power of reading. (Also: YAY DIMAGA and DeMusliM!) On August 30 2011 04:42 Xeris wrote: Now that the full list is out, I'll post here to explain some questions some people might have: 40 players?!?!? Due to what happened, we got put off schedule, we decided to cut the league to 40 players in order for us to be able to actually run the season in our original timeframe -- pushing it back would then put the finals in direct conflict with Christmas, which we can't do. So, it was necessary to cut down on the number of players. Where's Stephano??!! He didn't play in any qualifier, nor did anyone from his team, or himself personally reach out to me or express any interest in playing. *NOTE: I didn't reach out to any player who didn't play qualifiers or weren't from Season 1. The only player in the league who is in and didn't attempt to qualify is HuK. Where's GoOdy GoOdy had some attendance problems in Season 1 which put him lower on our list of players to ask to participate, which unfortunately put him below the 40 player cutoff. Where's Nerchio While Nerchio didn't get an invitation into Season 2, we plan on inviting him to a special event that we will be hosting that will be announced, so you will in fact (if he accepts) be seeing some of him. Where's Kas I invited him, but never got a confirmation about his VISA status nor did I get a final confirmation from his manager that he could play. .... I'm not going to explain in detail every choice, but those hopefully will give some insight as to why we chose certain players over others, etc. We hope that you enjoy the player list we've put together and hope you will get ready for Season 2! Remember, our preseason show is tomorrow and the league will start in about 2 weeks! | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:26 Bobster wrote: edit: Inviting Haypro over Goody makes sense when you adhere to season 1 results, which NASL has done so far. Yup, although honestly, unlike some people who believe that Season 1/Open/Qualifier results should be stuck to...I believe Season 2 should have and have every right to be an invitational tournament. NASL was put in a difficult position and had every right to deviate from their open and qualifier results to make up for any talent that they lost, as it would be better overall for their league. While I am incredibly excited to see some of the players, others I feel like shouldn't even be in the league (HayprO, qxc, Tyler being some). Their addition makes sense, I just don't like it and would have preferred they they reached out to players that haven't been interested in NASL before. But either way, stacked tournament. I wish there were still a teeny bit more Koreans (MC, Moon, July at least) but am indifferent to the absence of the rest of them. And I'm excited to see who will go into the Open/Qualifiers this season and how season 3 will look. | ||
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Atrimex
193 Posts
On August 30 2011 22:49 whateverpeeps wrote: Behold, the power of reading. (Also: YAY DIMAGA and DeMusliM!) All say said is that they dont conntact Stephano because noone from Team Millenium has conntact them first (therefore tarson is also out), that GoOdy is somehow not reliable enough (what sounds like a joke in my eyes) and that Nerchio maybe plays another event (what not really explains why he can not attend season 2). I am not sure if we can call this good reasons. Whatever, its their event so they choose the players and its nice that they at least tried to explain their choice. | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On August 30 2011 22:28 sucidem wrote: GoOdy would please the Fixed. | ||
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kraut
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:59 Sphaero wrote: I´m also not happy, that Goody was not invited (just look at my last post in this thread), but the bolded part is simply not true. Don´t get me wrong, Goody, Stephano and Nerchio are all amazing players, but that doesn´t mean that they are on a different level than the other top euros. What makes Stephano or Nerchio better than Ret, who won the EU bnet inv. or Dimaga, who took down the assembly? I truly believe, that any of the five best players of each race in EU can take a series of another one. That makes the EU scene so exciting, because you can not really predict the results. And if I look at the current top Euros, which are IMO (in no particular order): Terran: Kas, Goody, Strelok, Thorzain, Sjow Protoss: Naniwa, Socke, White-ra, Hasuobs, Mana Zerg: Nerchio, Ret, Stephano, Darkforce, Dimaga then only six of them are missing in the NASL, which makes it the most staked tournament after the dreamhack. It will be by no means a walk in the park for the Koreans. Are they the favourites? Sure. Can and will upsets happen? You can bet on it. Mhm, you are really missing some Terran monsters: Brat_Ok Tarson Demuslim(if he still counts) Beastyqt. Everything else seems to be right. | ||
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Chinchillin
United States259 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
I think NASL is doing a great job replacing the Koreans so far, though we still need Artosis back! We haven't seen any Artosis play for a really long time, I bet he changed races yet again. Would really like to see what he has been up to play wise despite only playing on weekends. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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HaRuHi
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Willba
United Kingdom209 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:46 Jono7272 wrote: Glad they got Demuslim in! The guy is getting damn good again.. Is moonglade still good and playing much? He was quietly dropped by FXO.. And hasn't been seen much as of late.. He beat Huk in Assembly a few weeks ago and qualified out of the group which many thought he would come bottom of. | ||
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claash
Poland472 Posts
On August 30 2011 20:53 Atrimex wrote: GoOdy beats nearly every announced season 2 player in the last two month: White-Ra, Strelok, Dimaga, Brat_OK, MoMaN, MaNa,TLO,DarKFoRcE, Socke, HasuObs, Haypro,MorroW, IdrA, LoWeLy, NightEnD, SjoW. GoOdy is in siege mode at the moment and at least TOP5 in EU. Look how good Sjow performed @ MLG and he could not win any match against GoOdy in the last months. And GoOdy has one of the largest fanbases in EU due to his playstyle. Without GoOdy, Stephano and Nerchio NASL is missing the top EU players. Looks like an easy way to victory for the remaining korean players. this | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:59 Sphaero wrote: I´m also not happy, that Goody was not invited (just look at my last post in this thread), but the bolded part is simply not true. Don´t get me wrong, Goody, Stephano and Nerchio are all amazing players, but that doesn´t mean that they are on a different level than the other top euros. What makes Stephano or Nerchio better than Ret, who won the EU bnet inv. or Dimaga, who took down the assembly? I truly believe, that any of the five best players of each race in EU can take a series of another one. That makes the EU scene so exciting, because you can not really predict the results. And if I look at the current top Euros, which are IMO (in no particular order): Terran: Kas, Goody, Strelok, Thorzain, Sjow Protoss: Naniwa, Socke, White-ra, Hasuobs, Mana Zerg: Nerchio, Ret, Stephano, Darkforce, Dimaga then only six of them are missing in the NASL, which makes it the most staked tournament after the dreamhack. It will be by no means a walk in the park for the Koreans. Are they the favourites? Sure. Can and will upsets happen? You can bet on it. This list is kind of missing TLO and Tarson. And I am sure more good players. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 30 2011 21:26 Bobster wrote: edit: Inviting Haypro over Goody makes sense when you adhere to season 1 results, which NASL has done so far. It makes sense, if they would adhere to season 1 results only. but they also invite people based on recent success. and the over half a dozen gold medals goody collected in the past month outweigh Haypro's 0 gold medals for the last half of a year far more, than just one point difference in the game difference. edit: Anyways, we'll see at the end of the season, how things turned out. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On August 30 2011 04:42 Xeris wrote: Now that the full list is out, I'll post here to explain some questions some people might have: 40 players?!?!? Due to what happened, we got put off schedule, we decided to cut the league to 40 players in order for us to be able to actually run the season in our original timeframe -- pushing it back would then put the finals in direct conflict with Christmas, which we can't do. So, it was necessary to cut down on the number of players. Where's Stephano??!! He didn't play in any qualifier, nor did anyone from his team, or himself personally reach out to me or express any interest in playing. *NOTE: I didn't reach out to any player who didn't play qualifiers or weren't from Season 1. The only player in the league who is in and didn't attempt to qualify is HuK. Where's GoOdy GoOdy had some attendance problems in Season 1 which put him lower on our list of players to ask to participate, which unfortunately put him below the 40 player cutoff. Where's Nerchio While Nerchio didn't get an invitation into Season 2, we plan on inviting him to a special event that we will be hosting that will be announced, so you will in fact (if he accepts) be seeing some of him. Where's Kas I invited him, but never got a confirmation about his VISA status nor did I get a final confirmation from his manager that he could play. .... I'm not going to explain in detail every choice, but those hopefully will give some insight as to why we chose certain players over others, etc. We hope that you enjoy the player list we've put together and hope you will get ready for Season 2! Remember, our preseason show is tomorrow and the league will start in about 2 weeks! So what exactly is your explanation on Nerchio? You gave none. Who cares about the special event, it probably has a very small prize pool compared to the main tournament. | ||
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