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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
August 20 2011 12:39 GMT
#21
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote:
What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?.


The bunker build time still isn't quite right.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#22
On August 20 2011 21:39 Reason.SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote:
What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?.


The bunker build time still isn't quite right.

they should just make it take 1 second to build for each 1 mineral you want back with salvage, so atm 75 seconds
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
mburke05
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
August 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#23
I dont know how people can just randomly say nerf blue flame helions because of their dramatic rise in popularity, the skill hasnt changed in large part for months, and people havent complained about it all. Meanwhile, fungal gets buffed dramatically, and zerg results dramatically increase, and people conveniently look away? Just because terrans are learning to use their assets (one that has been there for 8 months unchanged mind you) doesn't mean others who can't deal with them should be rewarded.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 20 2011 13:01 GMT
#24
Well you have to realize that because terrans were not using them earlier, that they were not doing as well as they could have been, which means that they have experienced fewer nerfs overall during the first year of starcraft 2 than they maybe should have. Especially considering Dustin Browder has admitted they are the most complete race.

Yes i agree that there is no need to nerf hellions, it's just that the other races don't have as many options as terran, so they get upset when terran busts out another to be even more versatile.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2011 13:04 GMT
#25
On August 20 2011 21:49 mburke05 wrote:
I dont know how people can just randomly say nerf blue flame helions because of their dramatic rise in popularity, the skill hasnt changed in large part for months, and people havent complained about it all. Meanwhile, fungal gets buffed dramatically, and zerg results dramatically increase, and people conveniently look away? Just because terrans are learning to use their assets (one that has been there for 8 months unchanged mind you) doesn't mean others who can't deal with them should be rewarded.



Blue flame has always been strong vs every race.

Terran has a lot of options. Why bother exploring early/mid game blue flame when other things win games?

Agh....a thread speculation about speculation.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 20 2011 13:06 GMT
#26
Damn, I first took this as a hint of a new patch coming...

Couldn't care less about PTR really.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
August 20 2011 13:14 GMT
#27
Not only does this hint at a EU PTR (which would make sooooooo damn happy) but also hints at a upcoming patch, before HOTS, that will have influence on balance and not change one icon, they would not give one (or hopefully all) regions PTR if it wouldn't be to actually test something in the close future (otherwise they could have just brought PTR to all regions with hots and sold it as a new feature).
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 20 2011 13:24 GMT
#28
Really cool find indeed - I have been complaining about the lack of PTR for EU forever.

Though it would be hilarious if it was just a community manager trolling.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
devilcry
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria53 Posts
August 20 2011 13:26 GMT
#29
On August 20 2011 21:35 ToastieNL wrote:
Probably fixes to blueflame (hellion speed nerf), fungal (damage in5/6 secs) and a slight buff to something Protossi, faster TC maybe?

id love these changes...especially the fungal nerf
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#30
this had to be done. we euros want to test stuff. that's what we do!
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
oweia
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#31
On August 20 2011 21:35 ToastieNL wrote:
Probably fixes to blueflame (hellion speed nerf), fungal (damage in5/6 secs) and a slight buff to something Protossi, faster TC maybe?

sry but what is TC? :/
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:41:32
August 20 2011 13:39 GMT
#32
I imagine that the 1-1-1 push, fungal growth and hellion are all being looked at it. Hellions seem to have taken over TvZ and TvT.

Possibly a buff to Immortals (and hopefully Hydras and Carriers, but I strongly doubt it)?

Either way, good news for us.

On August 20 2011 22:28 oweia wrote:
sry but what is TC? :/


Twilight Council.
oweia
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany83 Posts
August 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#33
On August 20 2011 22:39 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:28 oweia wrote:
sry but what is TC? :/


Twilight Council.


omg, lol thx
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
August 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#34
On August 20 2011 20:21 Garnet wrote:
What needs to be changed though, Blue Flame Helions?.

If anything it's infestors but the Zerg lobby is too strong for that so it'll never happen.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 20 2011 16:24 GMT
#35
They should make fungal a slow, like idra said
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Giwoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)431 Posts
August 21 2011 09:18 GMT
#36
lol theyre gonna make preignitor require starport LOOOOOOOL just like how reapers needed factories xD ohhhh boy the irony
BUTTHURT?
IIIOmegaIII
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden319 Posts
August 21 2011 09:22 GMT
#37
wonder if its PTR for a new patch or for HoTS
Hristiyan
Profile Joined May 2011
99 Posts
August 21 2011 09:24 GMT
#38
On August 21 2011 01:24 101toss wrote:
They should make fungal a slow, like idra said

If that is made than certain strategies become unstappable.

The second this happens i'm gonna share s double startport mass phoenixes opening after expand that borders to the unstoppable without the infestors holding the units together. Just gonna ruin the balance change the second that happens, especially if there is a PTR in europe.
Blitz Beat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
August 21 2011 09:26 GMT
#39
terran is op.

i can see bunker nerfs coming.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
August 21 2011 09:28 GMT
#40
I actually did not know that there was not a PTR past North America. I will be happy for you guys if it truly does happen.

Here is hoping they fix Infestors. And maybe a buff to Warp Prisms.
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