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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On August 20 2011 23:42 woobsauce wrote: Hm, have you read the CoCa thread and the tweets between Jessica/Zenex owner? I don't think its very similar to EG's situation with Puma at all. Especially after reading the entirety of those threads. But to take a step back, I do apologize for the post criticism, but I still think the comparison is pretty much impossible to connect at this point in time. It also feels like after so many people have shed light on the situation in both CoCa's situation and Puma's that the comparison (not just yours) feels sadly uninformed  Edit: Hell, even my own opinions are possibly uniformed due to the fact that not 100% of the information is given light from the background on account of privacy in discussion between the parties and the possible loss of meaning in translation. The point being that working with what information we have, such a connection is virtually nonexistent. :O I respect your opinion, I know having these types of arguments on all the transfer threads on TL is getting tiresome, but I had to respond due to the hypocrisy of the threads. The CoCa thread was exactly the same situation as the EG-Puma thread. EG-Puma was a he said/she said thread until AG appeared on State of the Game to explain his side of the story, Coach Lee added his, and we as a community pieced it together. Without those steps, it was just EG fanboys vs. EG haters going at it in the threads. When the CoCa thread popped up, it was overwhelmingly positive due to the stature Slayers has with this community, but the situation was pretty much the same, with no corroboration anywhere. We can make better judgements when more information comes out, but my point is the starting point of both transfers remained murky at best, it was just the community rallied against one team and cheered for the other. | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
On August 21 2011 01:08 kakaman wrote: I respect your opinion, I know having these types of arguments on all the transfer threads on TL is getting tiresome, but I had to respond due to the hypocrisy of the threads. The CoCa thread was exactly the same situation as the EG-Puma thread. EG-Puma was a he said/she said thread until AG appeared on State of the Game to explain his side of the story, Coach Lee added his, and we as a community pieced it together. Without those steps, it was just EG fanboys vs. EG haters going at it in the threads. When the CoCa thread popped up, it was overwhelmingly positive due to the stature Slayers has with this community, but the situation was pretty much the same, with no corroboration anywhere. We can make better judgements when more information comes out, but my point is the starting point of both transfers remained murky at best, it was just the community rallied against one team and cheered for the other. I agree that hypocrisy to an extent exists, but I also think that another part which hasn't been mentioned as was in the CoCa thread is the difference in reputation (not just community fandom). EG as a corporation has a reputation of doing shadier/frowned upon deals with poaching players both in and outside of sc2, while SlayerS (both the players and the owners), until further notice, has a history of legitimacy and respect. I think taking this into account is indeed important because that either fuels or dampens people's willingness or lack thererof to respond in ways both positive and negative. I understand that the communities response may seem hypocritical, but it doesn't come from nowhere. The very fact that both situations seem murky or taken care of behind closed doors and may appear vague only makes the strength of the reputations all the more valuable when coming to fueling initial (albeit, uninformed) reactions. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but it is indeed a very noticeable trend. Unfortunately, such reputations do indeed tend to steer people toward certain bias, but an equally large problem is people just not being well informed. Furthermore, many people don't even intake the little information given. They don't read threads, the OP, or in today's case: the title ["rumor"]. Other obvious proof being that people still think Zenex is disbanding (lol). What's worse, people doing themselves and the rest of the community a disservice by posting ill informed opinions. That is to say, referring to my prior post - we in the non-korean/starcraft 2 corporate information loop have limited information access as is. To form an opinion/judgements without even doing ourselves the favor of fully absorbing every modicum of information possible is damaging and a bit foolish. Equally foolish is choosing to condemn, criticize, and crucify without first hearing the entirety of the story of the parties involved. As an aside, I can extrapolate that last statement to so much of the "drama" around SlayerS_Jessica. Tl;Dr - we as a community should probably wait for more information before casting final judgements/accepting any information as given fact. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Or maybe he leaked something he shouldn't have and was covering it up afterwards.  | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
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TDN3
United States81 Posts
On August 20 2011 20:40 antilyon wrote: Slayers, aka Asian EG. Will only two good players (Huk and Puma). EG doesn't even deserve to carry Slayers' shoes. | ||
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koolaid1990
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babylon
8765 Posts
Anyways, at this rate, ZeNEX and SlayerS should just merge if this is true, though with the recent drama between Jessica and the ZeNEX owner, I doubt that'd happen. | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
If slayers do it, its awesome, epic, wonderful... Double standards ftw. Whats worse is the coca transfer might kill zenex... | ||
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On August 20 2011 23:36 Greggle wrote: One of the reasons I've always loved SlayerS so much was because I watched them grow from a few nobodies in code A. Hopefully they don't pull any more players and we can watch the young talent like Frozen, Min and Brown climb their way up. These having good established players and having good up and coming players are not mutually exclusive situations. You can still watch the young talent climb their way up, while watching the established talent wreck some faces in Code S  | ||
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BnK
United States538 Posts
On August 20 2011 23:44 Cosmos wrote: Byun should join the team Prime if zenex really disbands. I want this makes prime the cutest team in the world | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:28 drgonzhere wrote: These having good established players and having good up and coming players are not mutually exclusive situations. You can still watch the young talent climb their way up, while watching the established talent wreck some faces in Code S This post is awesome, and you are awesome. There is certainly no mutual exclusivity here, and it alludes to something I mentioned earlier in this thread regarding the fact that having a large number of talented players on a single roster only makes the fruits of their practice labor only the more sweet. Thus a basis for benefiting both the players, and the spectators ;3 Also, rareh - did you even read the thread? >_< | ||
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
On August 20 2011 19:47 OnFiRe888 wrote: if the zenex team disbands what happens to byun, byun is amazingly good and i'm sure slayers won't want more terran, but more importantly, what happens to the puppy?!?! PS: i'm well aware that zenex team disbanding was just a troll, but if puzzle leaves zenex it might actually happen Byun to TSL | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
[B] If Slayers was any other team people might just start comparing them to EG  Maybe when boxer starts calling people fags and MMA tells people to apologize for playing that race. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:04 Keone wrote: This is getting kinda ridiculous... players leaving teams so often, its gotta be bad for morale We're in this phase in SC2 esports right now. You will see alot more of this aslong as people get more money and want to spend more money on the players. This is a good thing, but it wont be like this forever. Eventually the market will even out and you'll see a more steady growth to both the sport, and the amount of money that is spent on players/tournaments/teams etc. SC2 is young, and needs to flap with its wings for a while longer. | ||
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GinDo
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S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:04 TDN3 wrote: Will only two good players (Huk and Puma). EG doesn't even deserve to carry Slayers' shoes. You aren't rekrul, you're not allowed to say IdrA is bad. | ||
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