On September 02 2011 22:58 Headnoob wrote:
Slayers now have a strong protoss AND zerg player, imagine the good things it'll do for the other zerg and protoss players there.

and the zerg they just recruited (coca) is a zvp monster!

Utinni

Canada1196 Posts

September 02 2011 14:09 GMT

#348

On September 02 2011 22:59 AxelTVx wrote:
Well this is basically another confirmation that ZeNEX is breaking up very soon.

Where'd you hear that? Rumors.

mordek

United States12704 Posts

September 02 2011 14:11 GMT

#349

SlayerS is starting to look sick with some Protoss and Zerg filling out their top ranks!

Neurosis

United States893 Posts

September 02 2011 14:11 GMT

#350

wooo best protoss in the world atm.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

September 02 2011 14:13 GMT

#351

Good pick up from Slayers!

sagichu

United States280 Posts

September 02 2011 14:13 GMT

#352

yay more non terrans for slayers

ShootingStars

1475 Posts

September 02 2011 14:13 GMT

#353

Fenix to IM
Puzzle to Slayers

Puzzle won haha

garlicface

Canada4196 Posts

September 02 2011 14:14 GMT

#354

But what about Byun's puppy? T__T Hope it doesn't get lonely with the team thinning out.

THINK OF THE PUPPY

juksan

Russian Federation83 Posts

September 02 2011 14:14 GMT

#355

so many good players in slayers! Enough for 2 teams

Zeroxk

Norway1244 Posts

September 02 2011 15:06 GMT

#356

On September 02 2011 20:35 rareh wrote:

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On September 02 2011 20:10 HolyArrow wrote:

On September 02 2011 20:04 rareh wrote:

On September 02 2011 19:58 HolyArrow wrote:

On September 02 2011 19:55 rareh wrote:

On September 02 2011 19:51 HolyArrow wrote:

On September 02 2011 19:45 rareh wrote:

On September 02 2011 19:39 HolyArrow wrote:
SlayerS = amazing team by international standards picking up great players

EG = pretty bad team by international standards picking up great players

Huge difference.

Agreed.

Bad team picking up good player(s) is good, so they can increase their skill or learn from the good player(s).

Good team picking up good player(s) is bad, so they can kill a team already having a hard time and create a situation where a smaller amount of teams can compete.

This is where we have philosophical differences. I just strongly disagree with the concept of a weak team "buying" their good players instead of nurturing them. I don't like it at all - it just seems kind of cheap to me. On the other hand, I am completely okay with a strong team that nurtured their own players adding more strong players to their roster - they did their part in nurturing their players, and now it's totally acceptable that other players see that team and want to be part of it. I guess the bottom line here is whether or not a team is strong by nurture rather than buying good players. It's the main factor for me, personally. Obviously, this is merely my opinion, and it's not backed by any sort of ethical or moral argument.

They are nurturing their players, in fact puma is teaching a lot to demuslim and huk to incontrol.
Look at how much better demuslim has got in just 1 week!

Point is if slayers buy all the good players then we will be getting a team that wins every time and it will make the scene a boring monopoly.
Imagine if Flash, jaedong, bisu etc were all in the same team.

Sure, they're now nurturing their players, by using the players that they bought. That doesn't supersede the fact that they had to buy good players for that to even happen, which is, to me, still a huge minus.

The point about SlayerS buying all good players and creating a boring monopoly is moot because... that's not really what's happening. When SlayerS recruits MC, MVP, and Nestea, then you'll have an argument.

not really since if you look at TLPD they already have the n1 protoss Puzzle.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players

Also to get he best players they have to be willing to leave i doubt nestea and mvp would...

You're using ELO as your measurement. That doesn't really work. Do you also believe Polt to be > MVP, Naya and Life > July and Leenock, cOre > HongUn and HuK, and Gumiho > MMA? MC is still the top Protoss as the only Protoss to win a GSL (let alone twice). ELO has its uses, but it, like any other ranking system, it has its flaws.

With that said, you seem to have contradicted yourself in your last sentence. First you say, "Point is if slayers buys all the good players then we will be getting a team that wins every time.... Imagine if Flash, jaedong, bisu etc. were all in the same team". Then, you say "Also, the best players have to be winning to leave, and I doubt Nestea and MVP would". Yeah. Thus, your worries about SlayerS making a boring monopoly of all the best players are unfounded. Nestea and MVP aren't going anywhere.

Polt is incredibly underrated seems like GSL ST didn't teach u anything

ELO works better then gsl ranking or "who won the most gsls a year ago". MC is playing really bad only has a high score(gsl ranking) since he won 2 gsls some months ago, but is in a huge slump misses easy forcefields, etc. Are u telling me fruitdealer is a awesome player just cause he won gsl ? He is in code A and barely wins some games, same will happen to mc.

About the contradiction not really, i never said most acomplished for each race, i said the best players (like top 10 or top 3 in a matchup TvZ etc).

Puzzle is regarded as the best Protoss by koreans atm.
Coca as one of the best zergs and the one with most potential.

MC is in a slump, but to say he's fallen off the wagon like Fruitdealer is completely false, he still took 2nd at NASL, 2nd at IEM, ro8 in last code S and his last GSL championship was GSL March

unnar

Iceland211 Posts

September 02 2011 15:13 GMT

#357

Im gona miss zenex

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

September 02 2011 15:19 GMT

#358

Well another great pickup for slayers -.- They are snapping up good players and continuing to mass produce terran talent

Termit

Sweden3466 Posts

September 02 2011 16:30 GMT

#359

On September 02 2011 19:55 Angelbelow wrote:

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Also what happens when players like Machine and Axslav start improving now that they have a team house like slayers?

EG doesn't have a team house like SlayerS. Sure EG got a team house, but they are lightyears from the standard of SlayerS and other teams in Korea. And they will NEVER get up that standard as long as they are located in the US and with the roster they have right now.

And nothing will happen with Axslav and Machine. They will still play the same players as before the team house, but probably more hours. But they clearly doesn't have the talent or skill to actually become a top player. The only player in EG right now that has potential to become a really solid player except IdrA, HuK and PuMA is DeMusliM if he goes to Korea with those three.