EPTOn November 17 2011 12:48 Daniel C wrote:
Hey man go easy on the guy, didn't you hear him just now? He "just didn't have enough".
Hey man go easy on the guy, didn't you hear him just now? He "just didn't have enough".
That's just a technicality.
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
That's just a technicality. | ||
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greatZERG
Australia755 Posts
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Supercilium
Sweden308 Posts
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Daniel C
Hong Kong1606 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:49 Fruscainte wrote: I know this guy is a total douchebag, asshole, and scum of the earth in every possible way. However, what do you hope to accomplish in this? Mindlessly berating him every single chance you get like a fucking lynch mob? Yes, he deserves to get some damn time for what he did and be barred from ever organizing anything ever other than his own birthday party. However, come the fuck on. It's not like he murdered 20 children, he was just stupid and fucked some people over that really didn't deserve it. He doesn't need to be crucified 24/7. Perhaps if people didn't hop all over his ass every chance they could get, he wouldn't be a stuttering mess. You would be freaking out just like him if hundreds of thousands of people were at your throat at all times of the day no matter what and you just lost all respect from anyone and everyone in the field that you presumably love. Like I said, he needs to have legal repercussions for what he did and have punishment from the community in the form of never being allowed to organize, or even participate in events ever again, or at least for a VERY damn long time. However, the way that this and every other community is treating him like he's freaking Osama Bin Laden and wanting to hang his decapitated body from high above and march him through the city for his evil deeds is just sad. Basically, chill the hell out guys. Um...I think YOU need to chill out. People are mad because he hasn't been held responsible for ANYTHING yet. Never being allowed to organize or participate is NOT enough. "Hey you stole 12k - just don't do it again OK?!" edit: Maybe not "stole" per se, but at least blundered away - he's got to be liable for it right? | ||
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greatZERG
Australia755 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:50 rengarr wrote: So basically the only thing he confirmed was 1. The internet provided wasn't a contractual deal, just some agreement between "friends of friends" lolwut 2. AZK didn't spend money to fly their team over to IPL 3 3. There was an cable on the floor that got pulled 4. He didn't have "enough money" when asked about having a detailed budget for the event Just about everything else he said can be summed up in three words "pot of issues" To clarify #3 the cable was not pulled, that's a 'plug it back in' problem. He said that the cable being stepped on was what caused the lag problems. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:48 canikizu wrote: How the hell people can overspend that much money without realizing? This just blows my mind. He absolutely realized it, and he got others to spend it, and I bet he himself does not owe anyone anything, and there are no contracts. So for anyone saying he is "more an idiot than a scumbag", I guess I disagree, and suspect he knew exactly what he was doing. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
I wanna hear what Amanda thinks about always being in contact with Gus, as well. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:51 Daniel C wrote: Um...I think YOU need to chill out. People are mad because he hasn't been held responsible for ANYTHING yet. Never being allowed to organize or participate is NOT enough. "Hey you stole 12k - just don't do it again OK?!" I don't think you even read my post =/ I said he should have legal repercussions. He should be forced to pay back the money he owes, and then some for the mental damage or whatever else the lawyers want to go at him for. Run him dry for his money for all I care. However, the way the community is treating him is just hilarious, at best. They're a lynch mob, of sorts. Any time he does anything at all, or his name is dropped in any context whatsoever, it instantly turns into a "laughing at how bad Gus is and making fun of him" thread and mocking him in every conceivable fashion over him trying to cover his ass. Which I don't blame him for trying to cover his ass, what the fuck else can he do in this situation? He's panicking, and rightfully so. Again, and I will say this until my tongue falls out (or my fingers fall off, was trying to make a metaphor  ), he deserves every legal punishment possible and then some for what he did. He fucked a lot of people over. However, people are treating this guy worse than the fucking guy in the Penn State scandal. I see people jeering for this guys' persecution more than when we killed Osama Bin Laden. It's stupid. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:49 Fruscainte wrote: I know this guy is a total douchebag, asshole, and scum of the earth in every possible way. However, what do you hope to accomplish in this? Mindlessly berating him every single chance you get like a fucking lynch mob? Yes, he deserves to get some damn time for what he did and be barred from ever organizing anything ever other than his own birthday party. However, come the fuck on. It's not like he murdered 20 children, he was just stupid and fucked some people over that really didn't deserve it. He doesn't need to be crucified 24/7. Perhaps if people didn't hop all over his ass every chance they could get, he wouldn't be a stuttering mess. You would be freaking out just like him if hundreds of thousands of people were at your throat at all times of the day no matter what and you just lost all respect from anyone and everyone in the field that you presumably love. Like I said, he needs to have legal repercussions for what he did and have punishment from the community in the form of never being allowed to organize, or even participate in events ever again, or at least for a VERY damn long time. However, the way that this and every other community is treating him like he's freaking Osama Bin Laden and wanting to hang his decapitated body from high above and march him through the city for his evil deeds is just sad. Basically, chill the hell out guys. This partially out of basic common sense, and partially out of I'm tired of seeing this shit all the time damn time when it always dissolves into the same thread every single time -- "LOL GUS IS SO BAD LOOK AT HIM TRYING TO COVER HIS ASS LIKE A LITTLE BITCH XD LETS LAUGH AT HIM SOME MORE" The thing is, IGN already said that they will not pursue legal repercussions and Amanda doesn't seem to have any way of making Gus take legal responsibilities either. It's frustrating and it's understandable that the community is flaming him. Nobody wants him decapitated and nobody thinks he murdered 20 children, by the way. | ||
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17Sphynx17
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"We overspent." (how the hell do you overspend that much and expect it to be miraculously paid off?) - The only rationale I could think of was he was expecting more sponsors to come in after he committed all the things he needed to make some of the wheels turn for the event. "If we were on schedule... Honslaught would've..." - This implies you had a schedule but I pretty much remember people on the ground saying there was no plan for the event that was detailed for the ground crew like who was to be on in certain time slots, who needed to be on stage etc. Also, you have to have a lead time to make things work in this type of event. You don't just setup in the middle of the night for a next day event of this "caliber" and hope for the best. "No one in the Phils has done an event of this magnitude..." I think the event size itself wasn't the issue, you just needed to add in a stream that was good for the international community and it's pretty much the same with PGF by Mineski. So you fucked up coz you were stupid and couldn't really do it. | ||
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Surriel
United Kingdom198 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:50 rengarr wrote: So basically the only thing he confirmed was 1. The internet provided wasn't a contractual deal, just some agreement between "friends of friends" lolwut 2. AZK didn't spend money to fly their team over to IPL 3 3. There was an cable on the floor that got pulled 4. He didn't have "enough money" when asked about having a detailed budget for the event Just about everything else he said can be summed up in three words "pot of issues" IPL sponsored 7000$ upfront, 3500$ went into prizes, I assume the rest went into renting the venue and such. I gotta wonder what other sponsorshipdeals he got, and where the money all go. "Didnt have enough money" is really not an answer when you dont account for how you use the money you got. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:50 rengarr wrote: So basically the only thing he confirmed was 1. The internet provided wasn't a contractual deal, just some agreement between "friends of friends" lolwut 2. AZK didn't spend money to fly their team over to IPL 3 3. There was an cable on the floor that got pulled 4. He didn't have "enough money" when asked about having a detailed budget for the event Just about everything else he said can be summed up in three words "pot of issues" Sounds like a Con-Artist to me. I haven't seen it yet since i was at work. Hopefully there will be a VOD uploaded or something But something tells me from your brief summary that there is not a Chance in Hell we are going to get the God Damned Truth about this Situation and one of the most damning piece of Evidence against Gus the Criminal and that is the part where he bribed other players etc and denied them flights. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:56 Sein wrote: The thing is, IGN already said that they will not pursue legal repercussions and Amanda doesn't seem to have any way of making Gus take legal responsibilities either. It's frustrating and it's understandable that the community is flaming him. Nobody wants him decapitated and nobody thinks he murdered 20 children, by the way. It's not the goal of the community that's wrong. It's the way that they are handling it that's pathetically immature. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:58 Surriel wrote: IPL sponsored 7000$ upfront, 3500$ went into prizes, I assume the rest went into renting the venue and such. I gotta wonder what other sponsorshipdeals he got, and where the money all go. "Didnt have enough money" is really not an answer when you dont account for how you use the money you got. NVIDIA Paid for the Prize Pools i Think. Not IPL | ||
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Zvek
Faroe Islands102 Posts
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rengarr
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Seriously you could actually do a drinking game on this interview, watch it do a shot everytime Gus says the word issues. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
As for the possibility of him bailing on the interview, that would only damage him further. But letting him dodge questions and present what he wants to say is simply giving him a platform to acquit himself. Still, thanks for all of the work you put in. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
He's awfully incompetent when organizing events. And with that he just announced to the world that he doesn't belong in esports. | ||
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