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Honestly good manner, bad manner, it really doesnt matter. Why are people so concerned about what your opponent says to you in game? I've had several people litterally FLIP out on me after I win OR lose. If i am winning they will make buildings around the map and cuss me out while I scavenger hunt the map to finish the game. If I lose and leave the game, they will PM me, once again cussing me out for not saying gg.
Honestly who the hell cares? I dont have to be polite to people I dont know, esspecially online. I have no obligation to say "glhf" or "gg" before or after any game that I play. In fact I am glad people actually get angry over something so insignificant, it provides entertainment for me for a good 3 seconds.
How much of a nerd do you have to be to be offended enough to hunt me down and spam me while I laugh at them and then put them on ignore.
As for people that stream or make posts hating on something or just being retarded, why do people care? If Destiny wants to be the most retarded streamer in the world, let him! Dont throw an outrage over what he says, it only gives him the attention he desperately needs for one reason or another. If you dont like it, dont watch it, its that simple. If IdrA wants to say fk you instead of gg, just laugh for 2 seconds like everyone else, then go on with your life. It really isnt hard.
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Because of White-Ra's quote in Star Nation (more gg more skill) I will gg everytime I lose!
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Because of White-Ra's quote in Star Nation (more gg more skill) I will gg everytime I lose!
I dont think that is entirely accurate 
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I don't like the idea of being pussy whipped into saying gg wp EVERY game because for a fair amount of the games, it isn't really a good game.
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Nice tread. Good thing to focus on, and lately there has been alot of more gm players for some reason. This just might have something to do with it. Trendsetting for the bm kids I find it nice with a gg, but I understand people getting mad and ragequit. For my own sake I try to allways gg wp. If I dont I tend to feel bad about it an carry it over in the next game, and tilt easier. When I gg I sort of reset my mindset and move on to the next game xD Even if I get cheesed my opponent still outplayed me. Its my own fault (bad scout or just bad response) and if I dont gg and analyze replay afterwords its all been in vain. Next time Ill die just as easily.
Say gg people! Ladder would be a much nicer place for everyone ^^
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On August 24 2011 06:08 ishyishy wrote:
Honestly good manner, bad manner, it really doesnt matter. Why are people so concerned about what your opponent says to you in game? I've had several people litterally FLIP out on me after I win OR lose. If i am winning they will make buildings around the map and cuss me out while I scavenger hunt the map to finish the game. If I lose and leave the game, they will PM me, once again cussing me out for not saying gg.
Honestly who the hell cares? I dont have to be polite to people I dont know, esspecially online. I have no obligation to say "glhf" or "gg" before or after any game that I play. In fact I am glad people actually get angry over something so insignificant, it provides entertainment for me for a good 3 seconds.
How much of a nerd do you have to be to be offended enough to hunt me down and spam me while I laugh at them and then put them on ignore.
As for people that stream or make posts hating on something or just being retarded, why do people care? If Destiny wants to be the most retarded streamer in the world, let him! Dont throw an outrage over what he says, it only gives him the attention he desperately needs for one reason or another. If you dont like it, dont watch it, its that simple. If IdrA wants to say fk you instead of gg, just laugh for 2 seconds like everyone else, then go on with your life. It really isnt hard.
Really, you're right. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I don't care how you or other people act as long as it doesn't cause legitimate physical harm to others.
That being said, courtesy and manners are something I think are at least semi-important for people to have. If you act like a child (even on the Internet), why should anyone treat you with any more respect than that?
At the end of the day, people will say what they want to who they want for whatever reason. That's freedom of speech for you. I respect your opinions and I see where you are coming from. However, I think that treating people with respect (even online when they don't know who you are) and maybe even saying something nice about them is better than just making their day worse by crying, BMing, etc.
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Mass marine/tank? I'd almost say your comment was sarcasm
Anyway, I like to give compliments to players who deserve it. If they've thoroughly beaten me by sheer skill and not dumb luck with oddball timings or wonky cheeses, then I'll gladly admit defeat and praise them for their victory.
Just a few days ago, I was thoroughly defeated by a Terran who kept me contained with constant marine/tank pressure, and drops at all my expos. I simply couldn't keep up with him. He out-expanded me and built such a savage army. I eventually ran out of money and threw in the towel. Before leaving, I gged and said it was refreshing to actually play against a GOOD Terran player. I think I may have brought a tear to his eye because he replied, "You really think I'm good? That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me." We gged again and I left the game. Sure, I was upset I lost, but I felt good about making someone's day like that.
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Worst thing is when people pretend to be nice with "GL HF ^_^" and all that crap then flip out at you in the end with a "Fuck Toss" or "This race is just a joke" when you win.
Ah well...haters gonna hate I guess!
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i broke my mouse today! 
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Even though gg stands for "good game", I think that in SC2, gg is more of a "i surrender" type phrase.
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On August 24 2011 07:17 HungShark wrote:Mass marine/tank? I'd almost say your comment was sarcasm Anyway, I like to give compliments to players who deserve it. If they've thoroughly beaten me by sheer skill and not dumb luck with oddball timings or wonky cheeses, then I'll gladly admit defeat and praise them for their victory. Just a few days ago, I was thoroughly defeated by a Terran who kept me contained with constant marine/tank pressure, and drops at all my expos. I simply couldn't keep up with him. He out-expanded me and built such a savage army. I eventually ran out of money and threw in the towel. Before leaving, I gged and said it was refreshing to actually play against a GOOD Terran player. I think I may have brought a tear to his eye because he replied, "You really think I'm good? That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me." We gged again and I left the game. Sure, I was upset I lost, but I felt good about making someone's day like that.
No, he opened with Banshees and then got like 4-6 Ravens to harass. I thought he was going big air and cut back on tank production. Once I'd dealt with his air force, he ran at me with 3-2 Marines and completely destroyed my lacking-in-tanks army. He did good harass (keeping me in my base) and then beat me with a smart tech switch.
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I don't know why everyone gets so Upset if you're opponent doesn't GG. You need to manner up if you beg him after the game for a GG
Grow up and get over yourself if someone isn't mannered to you.
EDIT: post came off pretty rude, this is just my opinion =)
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On August 24 2011 07:36 Zeevo wrote:
I don't know why everyone gets so Upset if you're opponent doesn't GG. You need to manner up if you beg him after the game for a GG
Grow up and get over yourself if someone isn't mannered to you.
EDIT: post came off pretty rude, this is just my opinion =)
The objective of this thread isn't to QQ about people not saying "gg", it is to combat the large amount of BM on ladder with GM. At least, that was my intention. >_>
Seems things have gotten out of hand
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He deserved the win he took off me. So nice.
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I dont glhf because i consider it an empty phrase.
I dont want my opponent to be lucky. I also dont want him to be unlucky. So why should i wish him luck?
Have fun... am the moment i consider it to be harsh sarcasm. Have fun with my marine/scv all-in! Do I have fun? No. Does he know I wont have fun with this kind of play? Most probably YES. So why even mention it? He doesnt want me to have fun and he doesnt want me to be lucky. He wants cheap ladder points, thats all.
I consider it the same if you run up to somebody you hardly know or dont even like an "Oh hi!!!! *kiss left/kiss right* How are you doing! Oh you look great!" You dont even care and honestly you are thinking -omg how did he get that fat - But... you lie... because you want to be good mannered... which is a contradiction in my eyes. I cant stand dishonest people. If I enjoyed a game, it was a gg. If he even totally outplayed me, its a gg wp. If hes just 6 raxing and playing down a extremely simple build order... it just cheap.
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Generally I just say gg, I only say gl hf if I know that person as in like a fun game. But when I'm laddering I just want to focus on my play and leave other things aside like wishing the opponent gl or whatever.
Again it all depends on who I'm playing. When its a ladder opponent I don't know two shits about im not gonna be concerned about his feelings or what he thinks of me and I of him. Against a friend, its all in good spirit so then yeah.
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On October 20 2011 05:49 Charon1979 wrote:
I dont glhf because i consider it an empty phrase.
I dont want my opponent to be lucky. I also dont want him to be unlucky. So why should i wish him luck?
Have fun... am the moment i consider it to be harsh sarcasm. Have fun with my marine/scv all-in! Do I have fun? No. Does he know I wont have fun with this kind of play? Most probably YES. So why even mention it? He doesnt want me to have fun and he doesnt want me to be lucky. He wants cheap ladder points, thats all.
I consider it the same if you run up to somebody you hardly know or dont even like an "Oh hi!!!! *kiss left/kiss right* How are you doing! Oh you look great!" You dont even care and honestly you are thinking -omg how did he get that fat - But... you lie... because you want to be good mannered... which is a contradiction in my eyes. I cant stand dishonest people. If I enjoyed a game, it was a gg. If he even totally outplayed me, its a gg wp. If hes just 6 raxing and playing down a extremely simple build order... it just cheap.
That's completely fine to be honest, but some people honestly do mean gl hf / gg. I do it every game because it is a sign of respect to your opponent, and I mean it. Whatever my opponent does, I consider it a "good game" because honestly, whoever wins was the better player in that game. Respecting the game and the players is good for everyone but of course you are not obligated to do it if you don't mean it.
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I don't think good manner exists anymore on ladder. I have collected 8-10 replays within a week where people BM to a point of death threats on loses
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If I'm lucky I get one GG from 15 wins :S People are different and thats fine, but the glhf and gg is about manner and not really "the meaning of the word" and some principle one have, imo that excuse wich is " i dont want them to be lucky of unlucky", or, "if I dont feel its a good game I wont give out gg" is just a bad excuse from sore losers. Manner up, none of this is dependant of how you live your life is it? Its the proper way to conduct yourself and again, its about being mannered.
Thats the way I was brought up, and I'm going to continue being like that, even though some of my losses sucks ass Its abit sad to see so many angry and unmannered people on the net, even though its expected.
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I don't know if its just because I'm a lowly plat player and people aren't that serious down here... but I rarely get BM'd, win or lose. About the worst I'll get is no GG.
I always GG though... to me it doesn't really mean 'good game' so much as 'I surrender'... like laying your king down when it gets hopeless in a game of chess.
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