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MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
August 18 2011 07:26 GMT
#1481
teamliquid > EG.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
August 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#1482
EG with a strong person for each race.

Zerg - Idra
Protoss - HuK
Terran - Puma
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 07:35:28
August 18 2011 07:34 GMT
#1483
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 18 2011 07:36 GMT
#1484
So Idra decided to go back to Korea?

Nice!

Really glad about that. He will develop a lot more there.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 18 2011 07:40 GMT
#1485
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-

what a surprise!
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
August 18 2011 07:40 GMT
#1486
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 07:45:24
August 18 2011 07:44 GMT
#1487
On August 18 2011 16:40 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.


Chill out. You're right there's no proof but I believe Kennigit because EG has bypassed management/staff to talk with players directly in the past before.
ngri
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg136 Posts
August 18 2011 07:45 GMT
#1488
I wonder if they want to buy out Ret as well and move to the house in Korea,..

Ret already made it quite clear he would move for the right deal and that he wouldn't mind training in Korea if the people in the house are to his liking .. that would be interesting..

Hrmmm..
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
August 18 2011 07:46 GMT
#1489
And in the past it was told to them by puma (the player in question) Not to talk to the management that he should do it, when they told him they wanted to. So... I believe EG is telling the truth here
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
August 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#1490
To me the biggest news in this whole article is that Idra is going back to Korea. Maybe MC will teach him more gooder.
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
Arayvenn
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 07:50:59
August 18 2011 07:50 GMT
#1491
Is HuK still going to have access to the oGs house? Lots of rumours surrounding Tyler, too.
All in again, and again, and again, and again, and again
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
August 18 2011 07:51 GMT
#1492
On August 18 2011 16:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:40 hunts wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.


Chill out. You're right there's no proof but I believe Kennigit because EG has bypassed management/staff to talk with players directly in the past before.

Liquid' gave Huk the okay to talk to people, he talked to EG; when the arrangements were close to complete EG talked to Liquid'. That seems reasonable to me.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
August 18 2011 07:56 GMT
#1493
Still a Huk fan, still a Liquid fan, and now we get to see IdrA take on better competition. Great news, imo. Liquid may have lost its Code S player, but they'll rebound. Liquid'Hero and LiquidSheth were great additions.
Big water
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 18 2011 08:00 GMT
#1494
On August 18 2011 16:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:40 hunts wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.


Chill out. You're right there's no proof but I believe Kennigit because EG has bypassed management/staff to talk with players directly in the past before.


My advice is to just forget the whole thing. Its meaningless to discuss it now because the only thing that's going to remain standing is Huk is a member of EG. The details will get foggy and eventually forgotten but Huk will still be representing team EG. It may be bitter now but I think bigger and better things are coming for everyone, TL, EG, Esports in general.

You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
August 18 2011 08:01 GMT
#1495
great news. but I think EG will need more than 3 people for the proper trainings and strategy research.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 08:04:56
August 18 2011 08:04 GMT
#1496
On August 18 2011 16:46 hunts wrote:
And in the past it was told to them by puma (the player in question) Not to talk to the management that he should do it, when they told him they wanted to. So... I believe EG is telling the truth here


So you're using a statement made by EG as justification as to why you believe EG is telling the truth? Let's just say we have different opinions.

On August 18 2011 16:51 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:40 hunts wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.


Chill out. You're right there's no proof but I believe Kennigit because EG has bypassed management/staff to talk with players directly in the past before.

Liquid' gave Huk the okay to talk to people, he talked to EG; when the arrangements were close to complete EG talked to Liquid'. That seems reasonable to me.


Not questioning if it's reasonable. It's simply a matter of EG describing a process that took place which apparently didn't in an attempt to preserve their image.

EDIT:
On August 18 2011 17:00 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:44 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:40 hunts wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:34 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:22 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-


Kennigit's twitter said nothing about asking for permission, just that EG never asked specifically to talk to him.

Which is totally pointless, as they basically said multiple teams were approaching him anyway.


He said us as in the TL organization, not him specifically. The point is, don't say you received permission from Nazgul and then talked to Huk when Nazgul knew nothing about it until the very end when the agreement was almost complete. It's just to make yourself look better.


so it's EGs word vs a post on twitter, and you believe the twitter? Why not EG? With no actual proof neither side is more trustworthy than the other. Is this just an innate dislike of EG then?

I think EG is telling the truth and kennigit is then not tleling the truth to make EG look bad. Does that make me more right? No it doesn't since again neither side has proof.


Chill out. You're right there's no proof but I believe Kennigit because EG has bypassed management/staff to talk with players directly in the past before.


My advice is to just forget the whole thing. Its meaningless to discuss it now because the only thing that's going to remain standing is Huk is a member of EG. The details will get foggy and eventually forgotten but Huk will still be representing team EG. It may be bitter now but I think bigger and better things are coming for everyone, TL, EG, Esports in general.



I agree, it becomes to confusing. Forget this =)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 18 2011 08:18 GMT
#1497
With his Liquid contract expiring, we decided that we didn't want to spend another year looking in from the outside. After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


No where does EG claim they received the permission from Nazgul. That sentence could easily mean Huk received permission. With Huk coming to the end of his contract, he probably had a good amount of teams contacting him and Huk then probably went to Nazgul asking for permission to negotiate with other teams. Quite frankly thats how it should be. Its the players decision and no laws or contracts were broken.
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 18 2011 08:21 GMT
#1498
On August 18 2011 16:40 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-

what a surprise!


Funny how people can take a quote out of context, the very next tweet kennigit said that it was 100% fine with a few things that could have been done different but weren't really relevant to the final outcome.

All he was implying was that EG worded it slightly wrong.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
August 18 2011 08:34 GMT
#1499
On August 18 2011 17:21 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 16:40 ondik wrote:
On August 18 2011 16:14 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 01:10 EGalex wrote:
After receiving permission from Victor "Nazgul" Goossens, the owner of Liquid, we entered negotiations with HuK, and quickly came to a verbal agreement.


Well according to Kennigit's twitter, that never happened unfortunately -.-

what a surprise!


Funny how people can take a quote out of context, the very next tweet kennigit said that it was 100% fine with a few things that could have been done different but weren't really relevant to the final outcome.

what tweet?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
August 18 2011 08:36 GMT
#1500
On August 17 2011 17:11 Orbiter wrote:When athletes from other sport have contracts purchased, you dont see fans disgruntled over losing a player when his contract is up to another team, just because it has more money.

In other sport scenes, it dosnt happen. And it shouldnt happen in this one either.

You're joking, right? This happens in EVERY sport. When the "rich" team spends a lot of money to take away your home team's best players, you get PISSED. Everyone does. It's natural. It looks like your team is doing all the hard work and those rich, entitled assholes over there just throw money at him and steal him away. People hate the Yankees in baseball for this exact reason.

That anyone would be surprised that fans of HuK/Liquid resent EG for "stealing" Liquid's best player astounds me. It's like they've never seen how sports fans act or even been one themself.

All of this said, it's hard to fault either EG or HuK. EG has gobs of money but doesn't have the level of player internally to spend it upon. Therefore, they go after super-successful (and in HuK's case, extremely marketable) players from other teams. It makes business sense. From HuK's perspective, he presumably is getting significantly more money from EG than Liquid could have provided him. He also gets to stay in Korea and do GSL along with whatever else he gets. Sounds like a good decision for HuK from a business perspective. It's not clear whether the new team situation will help or hurt him practice/future success-wise or whether he'll be more of less happy in the new situation, but given that ESPORTS isn't the most stable long-term career, it doesn't seem like that bad of an idea to try to cash in when you have the chance.

To conclude, what's wrong with fans of the team who just had their player "stolen" resenting the team that did it? That's just how sports/fandom works. Doesn't mean EG or HuK did anything wrong; it's just how things work.
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