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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 14 2011 09:20 GMT
#41
If this is from the official site and from the manager, how can this not be an official statement??
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 14 2011 09:20 GMT
#42
why did they say things were resolved then say they would discuss it when a representative of FXO comes to kr...contradictory much?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 14 2011 09:20 GMT
#43
On August 14 2011 18:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
If this is from the official site and from the manager, how can this not be an official statement??

because its not a direct translation and can be misquoted
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 14 2011 09:23 GMT
#44
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]


Hahahaha. That guys was hilarious. Yeah, this drama is getting ridiculous.
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Shaok
Profile Joined October 2010
297 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:25:54
August 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#45
On August 14 2011 17:54 Defacer wrote:
Is it just the translation, or does it seem like all Korean disputes are a result of "misunderstandings" and "personal circumstances"?

"I'm sorry I slept with your wife. It was a misunderstanding resulting from my personal circumstances."


Thats how it works over there I guess... completely unprofessional and will not work with the foreign scene. GL with that.

On August 14 2011 18:20 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
If this is from the official site and from the manager, how can this not be an official statement??

because its not a direct translation and can be misquoted

In other words, the korean version is official and any translations are just translations.
GodTroll
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada41 Posts
August 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#46
On August 14 2011 18:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
If this is from the official site and from the manager, how can this not be an official statement??


Arg...I think i made the mistake of not displaying the full title of the post.

This post was not written as the official statement from the SC2CON. Right now, it looks like there is conflict between the culprit and the rest of the committee (speculations).

This post was posted by Lee Jun Ho, the person whom FOXBOSS had problems with, and does not have the seal of approval from the rest of the committee.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 14 2011 09:29 GMT
#47
On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.


God, I wish I could read Korean. The Korean forums must be exploding with hilarity right now.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 14 2011 09:32 GMT
#48
On August 14 2011 18:29 GodOfTroll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
If this is from the official site and from the manager, how can this not be an official statement??


Arg...I think i made the mistake of not displaying the full title of the post.

This post was not written as the official statement from the SC2CON. Right now, it looks like there is conflict between the culprit and the rest of the committee (speculations).

This post was posted by Lee Jun Ho, the person whom FOXBOSS had problems with, and does not have the seal of approval from the rest of the committee.


Soooo this isnt a correctly titled thread at all...gotcha.
Lets make it even more confusing guys!! -_-
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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:36:34
August 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#49
On August 14 2011 18:29 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.


God, I wish I could read Korean. The Korean forums must be exploding with hilarity right now.

Actually, not much happening in playxp. Their response is more of, 'well we should see how this pans out to', 'maybe the organisation isn't the best idea'. I have no idea why some people on TL want to make a drama out of it.

I find it somewhat ironic how playxp, who actually have high quality posts, talk in polite forms and manner have pictures of boobs as their avatar. :D
Hi!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
August 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#50
On August 14 2011 18:17 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]

BTW, I never got to find out the real story behind this picture. Is it from the Iraq war?


It's comical Ali, master of propaganda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

I don't think there's anything special about the picture other than that he's in it?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
August 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#51
This is really concerning if the last couple of weeks have been an indication as to what their mentality is and how much they will try to control in the korean starcraft 2 world.
While I love the idea of the organization I think that these people are really really trigger happy and try to throw power around where it really isn't appropriate to do so.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:37:15
August 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#52
I don't buy it. FXOBoss is clearly a fuckin smart dude with tonnes of business experience, he would have been 100% sure there was no simple misunderstanding that accounted for SC2CON's actions before posting what he posted.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:41:33
August 14 2011 09:37 GMT
#53
On August 14 2011 18:17 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]

BTW, I never got to find out the real story behind this picture. Is it from the Iraq war?

It's Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, he was the Iraqi Information Minister during the War. He is more known as "Bagdad Bob"

"Bagdad Bob" was famous for his daily, very optimistic and colorful, press briefings regarding the progress of the war. He even appeared regularly on the Jay Leno show.

On April 7, 2003, two days before Baghdad fell to US forces, al-Sahhaf claimed that there were no American troops in Baghdad, and that the Americans were committing suicide by the hundreds at the city's gates. His last public appearance as Information Minister was on April 8, 2003, when he said that the Americans "are going to surrender or be burned in their tanks. They will surrender, it is they who will surrender".

here is a collection of the briefings he did:
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
August 14 2011 09:55 GMT
#54
On August 14 2011 18:33 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:29 Defacer wrote:
On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.


God, I wish I could read Korean. The Korean forums must be exploding with hilarity right now.

Actually, not much happening in playxp. Their response is more of, 'well we should see how this pans out to', 'maybe the organisation isn't the best idea'. I have no idea why some people on TL want to make a drama out of it.

I find it somewhat ironic how playxp, who actually have high quality posts, talk in polite forms and manner have pictures of boobs as their avatar. :D


Don't want the pitchforks we bought for EG to go to waste.
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RawBanana
Profile Joined April 2011
39 Posts
August 14 2011 09:56 GMT
#55
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]


Man, I was thinking of posting that!
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 14 2011 10:04 GMT
#56
On August 14 2011 18:33 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:29 Defacer wrote:
On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.


God, I wish I could read Korean. The Korean forums must be exploding with hilarity right now.

Actually, not much happening in playxp. Their response is more of, 'well we should see how this pans out to', 'maybe the organisation isn't the best idea'. I have no idea why some people on TL want to make a drama out of it.

I find it somewhat ironic how playxp, who actually have high quality posts, talk in polite forms and manner have pictures of boobs as their avatar. :D


Oh, it's all in good fun.

Honestly, when you go from the NASL announcement, the FXO announcement to this announcement, the amount of SC2Con drama over the past couple of days has been out of the ordinary from a foreigner perspective.

Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 14 2011 10:10 GMT
#57
On August 14 2011 17:45 GodOfTroll wrote:
*EDIT: This is NOT the official statement from the SC2CON. The official post will be posted as soon as meeting between two sides occur. *And NO, This is not trollage..-_-;; merely translation from SC2CON's official site.


Title: Good Evening, This is SC2CON's management team leader

Hello. I am the Committee's management team leader (Lee Jun Ho).

I sincerely apologize for the issues involving team FXO due to my personal circumstances.
The following are final conclusions made after talking with the FXO's side, and both sides have agreed to its' contents.


Issues involving 'Team logo' and 'Team name' was not proposed by the Committee's side, and the misunderstanding between the two have been resolved.

We will sort this issue with FXO team through a meeting, once their representative arrives in Korea.

We sincerely apologize to all our fans for everything that happened regarding the FXO team's withdrawal matter, and have already invited FXO to resolve this issue.
We will sort this out as soon as we meet with the representative from FXO, and report as soon as everything clears.

+ Show Spoiler +
안녕하세요 협의회 운영팀장입니다.

제 개인적인 일들로 인해 FXO측과의 이슈로 많은 팬분들과 관계자들에게 심려를 끼쳐드려 죄송합니다.
아래 내용은 FXO와의 대화를 통해 최종적으로 정리된 내용이며 FXO측이 동의한 내용임을 알려드립니다.

팀로고와 팀명칭에 대한 부분은 저희가 제안하지 않았으며 이에 대해 서로간의 오해가 풀렸고
FXO와 한국에서의 만남을 통해 모든 내용에 대한 오해를 풀것입니다.

팬 여러분들께 진심으로 사과를 드리며 이번 이슈를 해결하기 위해 FXO를 초청하였으니 이후 FXO와의 만남을 통해 다시 정확한 내용이 정리되는대로 알려드리겠습니다.



From:http://s2con.com/xe/Notice/8468


Be more literal when translating

팀로고와 팀명칭에 대한 부분은 저희가 제안하지 않았으며 이에 대해 서로간의 오해가 풀렸고
FXO와 한국에서의 만남을 통해 모든 내용에 대한 오해를 풀것입니다.

you missed out on a ton of nuances that's implicit within this phrase so yeah. be as literal and precise as you can with this.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 14 2011 10:11 GMT
#58
this announcement is meaningless. It is the typical coporate bla bla you can read everywhere. People never get fired in japan e.g. they always "leave" on their own desire. This sc2con announcement / excuse can be ignored.
(Mist)
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada72 Posts
August 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#59
This all has to do with fou wearing their jersey in the team league.
GodTroll
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 10:39:26
August 14 2011 10:24 GMT
#60
On August 14 2011 19:10 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:45 GodOfTroll wrote:
*EDIT: This is NOT the official statement from the SC2CON. The official post will be posted as soon as meeting between two sides occur. *And NO, This is not trollage..-_-;; merely translation from SC2CON's official site.


Title: Good Evening, This is SC2CON's management team leader

Hello. I am the Committee's management team leader (Lee Jun Ho).

I sincerely apologize for the issues involving team FXO due to my personal circumstances.
The following are final conclusions made after talking with the FXO's side, and both sides have agreed to its' contents.


Issues involving 'Team logo' and 'Team name' was not proposed by the Committee's side, and the misunderstanding between the two have been resolved.

We will sort this issue with FXO team through a meeting, once their representative arrives in Korea.

We sincerely apologize to all our fans for everything that happened regarding the FXO team's withdrawal matter, and have already invited FXO to resolve this issue.
We will sort this out as soon as we meet with the representative from FXO, and report as soon as everything clears.

+ Show Spoiler +
안녕하세요 협의회 운영팀장입니다.

제 개인적인 일들로 인해 FXO측과의 이슈로 많은 팬분들과 관계자들에게 심려를 끼쳐드려 죄송합니다.
아래 내용은 FXO와의 대화를 통해 최종적으로 정리된 내용이며 FXO측이 동의한 내용임을 알려드립니다.

팀로고와 팀명칭에 대한 부분은 저희가 제안하지 않았으며 이에 대해 서로간의 오해가 풀렸고
FXO와 한국에서의 만남을 통해 모든 내용에 대한 오해를 풀것입니다.

팬 여러분들께 진심으로 사과를 드리며 이번 이슈를 해결하기 위해 FXO를 초청하였으니 이후 FXO와의 만남을 통해 다시 정확한 내용이 정리되는대로 알려드리겠습니다.



From:http://s2con.com/xe/Notice/8468


Be more literal when translating

팀로고와 팀명칭에 대한 부분은 저희가 제안하지 않았으며 이에 대해 서로간의 오해가 풀렸고
FXO와 한국에서의 만남을 통해 모든 내용에 대한 오해를 풀것입니다.

you missed out on a ton of nuances that's implicit within this phrase so yeah. be as literal and precise as you can with this.


I apologize for my carelessness. It had never occurred to me when I was translating the original text. However, upon farther speculations, I see how one can misunderstand the original context. The text has been re-edited. If you disapprove of the translation, I will take it off right away. I did not mean to cause mis-communication.
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