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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
August 14 2011 09:05 GMT
#21
On August 14 2011 17:49 Primadog wrote:
We need a new subforum call "SC2CON drama"

Just "drama" and the most sad part is that it would probably be the most visited section of the forum...
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
August 14 2011 09:05 GMT
#22
On August 14 2011 17:58 JoeSchmoe wrote:
You're from... canada? and you picked GodOfTroll as your username?...

EDIT: NVM, it's just a translation. I thought it was the committee leader himself before the OP edit.


I thought the exact same thing and was quite confused there at the start, you were not alone .
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
August 14 2011 09:05 GMT
#23
On August 14 2011 17:56 FXOpen wrote:
It is a korean business mentality. I approved this statement by sc2con to be posted as they felt they need to reply to their fans.

However nothing has been resolved as of yet. And I will hope to have a resolution/conclusion by the end of september.


What is a korean business mentality? The need to consult the other party for approval before posting it? Or something else? I'm a bit confused.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:17:31
August 14 2011 09:07 GMT
#24
I'll guess the diversion of blame from the identified group, even if it means an individual have to unfairly (and falsely) shoulder the burden

ie a delusional urge to scapegoat someone (willing or unwilling) for the supposed "greater good"

See:
* Puma for TSL in the EG-drama
* FruitDealer and Tester for TSL and subsequently ST's coach for SC2CON in the payment drama
* Teams and managers for SC2CON in the NASL drama
* this guy (former prime coach) for SC2CON in the FXOpen drama
Thank God and gunrun.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 14 2011 09:08 GMT
#25
Why is it always same with all the shady organizations? They refuse to talk to you, they threaten, they tell you what to do, but when it becomes public, they deny, they reject the claims, they say it wasn't them but somebody else, and suddenly, here they are, ready to talk, like always.

Is this serious? What do they even mean by saying "We will sort this issue with FXO team through a meeting". What is "this issue"? So it's not team name and logo, fine, but what the hell is their issue with any team? Mind your own business and stop telling people what to do, you corrupt bastards.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:08:41
August 14 2011 09:08 GMT
#26
On August 14 2011 18:05 PHC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:56 FXOpen wrote:
It is a korean business mentality. I approved this statement by sc2con to be posted as they felt they need to reply to their fans.

However nothing has been resolved as of yet. And I will hope to have a resolution/conclusion by the end of september.


What is a korean business mentality? The need to consult the other party for approval before posting it? Or something else? I'm a bit confused.


No he was replying to the other poster about how koreans always/usually refer to disagreements and conflicts as "misunderstandings" due to "personal circumstances"
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 14 2011 09:08 GMT
#27
On August 14 2011 18:05 PHC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:56 FXOpen wrote:
It is a korean business mentality. I approved this statement by sc2con to be posted as they felt they need to reply to their fans.

However nothing has been resolved as of yet. And I will hope to have a resolution/conclusion by the end of september.


What is a korean business mentality? The need to consult the other party for approval before posting it? Or something else? I'm a bit confused.


The whole personal circumstances and what not defence. Its acceptable. But very cultural. People in other cultures are more blunt or even less blunt.

At the same time, this is the only statement we could come to some sort of mutual understanding on. So it was approved. As I had suggested that I will go to Korea to investigate and fix everything.

There is a chance we will rejoin sc2con, should some sort of resolution be fixed.

As I stated before. I believe in such an organisation, just now how this representitive is representing the organisation. Management of the organisation is lacking.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 14 2011 09:09 GMT
#28
On August 14 2011 17:54 RoieTRS wrote:
So as I understand it you are denying the two things FXOBoss that mattered the least.

What about the blackmail? The insults?

Sorry, I missed the blackmail and insults part, what was that all about? Could you describe?
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
August 14 2011 09:10 GMT
#29
On August 14 2011 18:09 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 17:54 RoieTRS wrote:
So as I understand it you are denying the two things FXOBoss that mattered the least.

What about the blackmail? The insults?

Sorry, I missed the blackmail and insults part, what was that all about? Could you describe?


The original post from fxo cited blackmail and insults as being some reason why fxo is pulling out.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
August 14 2011 09:11 GMT
#30
On August 14 2011 18:00 StyLeD wrote:
I think FXOpen shouldn't have used "SC2con" because they talked to only one person. Yes, that person is the sc2con representative, but like FXOpen stated one person does not equal the whole, even if he is supposedly a representative of it...it doesn't make much sense but I think that the representative's attitude was a personal vendetta and not a group vendetta.


You haven't read FXOboss initial post then.
Meh i find this funny!! Oh Sc2Con, i think sc2 will be fine without them
GodTroll
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:13:44
August 14 2011 09:12 GMT
#31
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
August 14 2011 09:14 GMT
#32
xxavi, first you derailed the other thread with that 2002 world cup nonsense, and you are starting to derail this one.

Boss has already said he is not going to publicly discuss the other issues. Stop blindly pointing fingers. Add to the discussion please with your manner cap on please.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 14 2011 09:14 GMT
#33
On August 14 2011 18:00 StyLeD wrote:
I think FXOpen shouldn't have used "SC2con" because they talked to only one person. Yes, that person is the sc2con representative, but like FXOpen stated one person does not equal the whole, even if he is supposedly a representative of it...it doesn't make much sense but I think that the representative's attitude was a personal vendetta and not a group vendetta.

Why is it that this website is crawling with people who would defend Koreans at any cost, even if the situation is indefensible?

Unless you are an ultra-nationalist nazi Korean, you cannot just think they are right all the time?

Did you ever happen to need to talk or solve a problem with a company or an organization or even a government office, and all you could get to talk is just ONE person? Or seemingly the organization would just ignore your requests? "SC2con representative" is the only person they could talk to before going public and making a radical decision like leaving the organization.

Arse-licking has to stop at some point here.
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
August 14 2011 09:15 GMT
#34
On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.


Wow I hope they don't get off that easily with that poor excuse.
motiust
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia97 Posts
August 14 2011 09:16 GMT
#35
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]


I never LOLED SO HARD AS SOON AS I SAW THIS
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:18:15
August 14 2011 09:17 GMT
#36
On August 14 2011 18:14 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 18:00 StyLeD wrote:
I think FXOpen shouldn't have used "SC2con" because they talked to only one person. Yes, that person is the sc2con representative, but like FXOpen stated one person does not equal the whole, even if he is supposedly a representative of it...it doesn't make much sense but I think that the representative's attitude was a personal vendetta and not a group vendetta.

Why is it that this website is crawling with people who would defend Koreans at any cost, even if the situation is indefensible?

Unless you are an ultra-nationalist nazi Korean, you cannot just think they are right all the time?

Did you ever happen to need to talk or solve a problem with a company or an organization or even a government office, and all you could get to talk is just ONE person? Or seemingly the organization would just ignore your requests? "SC2con representative" is the only person they could talk to before going public and making a radical decision like leaving the organization.

Arse-licking has to stop at some point here.


Sorry if I offended you. Just stating my opinion; I'll reread FXO's post like above suggested though.



On August 14 2011 18:12 GodOfTroll wrote:
Not to take any sides or anything, but from what it looks like, everyone except the culprit (the guy who wrote this excuse cover up) never knew about this whole matter. Apparently, the culprit (also the team leader of the management division of SC2CON) thought it was "personal talk over the phone" with the FXO, not as the representative from SC2CON.

This is what I see going on at Korean forums, and I do not mean to imply anything here.




By the way, this is what I meant.
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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 14 2011 09:17 GMT
#37
On August 14 2011 17:55 jenzebubble wrote:
Did anyone else think of this fellow while reading the OP?

[image loading]

BTW, I never got to find out the real story behind this picture. Is it from the Iraq war?
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
August 14 2011 09:18 GMT
#38
I'm really sad that I missed the original post by FXOBoss

If anyone that was lucky enough to catch it could fill us in on the details?

Also, SC2Con=Axis of Evil.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 14 2011 09:18 GMT
#39
On August 14 2011 18:14 PHC wrote:
xxavi, first you derailed the other thread with that 2002 world cup nonsense, and you are starting to derail this one.

Boss has already said he is not going to publicly discuss the other issues. Stop blindly pointing fingers. Add to the discussion please with your manner cap on please.

Sorry, I am an emotional guy. Couldn't help but get angry.

I will try to be more civil. In fact, I will just go to bed now. But 2002 World Cup fixing is not a nonsense. You know what I mean, right? Good night.

User was temp banned for this post.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 09:30:33
August 14 2011 09:19 GMT
#40
On August 14 2011 17:56 FXOpen wrote:
It is a korean business mentality. I approved this statement by sc2con to be posted as they felt they need to reply to their fans.

However nothing has been resolved as of yet. And I will hope to have a resolution/conclusion by the end of september.


Boss, you're doing it wrong...

You have to make a new thread called FXO's response to SC2CON's response to FXO's withdrawal.

Keep the pressure going.
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