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spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
August 04 2011 13:36 GMT
#261
:OOOOOOOO
I wonder what they're gonna do any other teams that do what TSL/Manager Lee did.
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 04 2011 13:36 GMT
#262
Looks like Puma jumped ship just in time.


This doesn't make TSL look good.
Scrumdidlyumptious
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia235 Posts
August 04 2011 13:36 GMT
#263
Poor Sang Ho and Clide gave up their wages to pay the team's operating expenses because Coach Lee claimed he hadn't received the sponsor money, even though he was keeping it for himself =( What a douchebag.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 04 2011 13:37 GMT
#264
On August 04 2011 22:36 Scrumdidlyumptious wrote:
Poor Sang Ho and Clide gave up their wages to pay the team's operating expenses because Coach Lee claimed he hadn't received the sponsor money, even though he was keeping it for himself =( What a douchebag.


i highly doubt that any money was kept from sangho or clide. it was more like FD and trickster.
Woshie
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia90 Posts
August 04 2011 13:38 GMT
#265
Seems like a lot of speculation based on half facts and opinions. I will reserve my judgement while I wait for more information.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
August 04 2011 13:38 GMT
#266
On August 04 2011 22:23 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 22:21 CoR wrote:
On August 04 2011 22:20 brachester wrote:
On August 04 2011 22:17 RusHXceL wrote:
Now I don't blame PuMa for leaving TSL.

Can we get a Mod in here and ban all those kids that brinign up this EG shit?


why lol ? its exactly what everyone thinking that now it seems there was rumors in tsl before and i can good understand pumas decision to join EG
stop forcing bans ... bm dude bm !


It's called a crock. All of you are jumping the gun and I agree. Everyone who doesn't read the thread shouldn't be commenting.

That's a funny argument to use when the op first contained:
Disclaimer:+ Show Spoiler +
I just did by best to translate the article as accurately as I can, verbatim. If any party wishes to question my journalistic professionalism and merits, please contact DjWheat and I will gladly enjoy the spotlight.



For better or worse, people are going to take their previous thoughts on what happened with eg and come to the conclusion that this might have had something related. You telling people to suddenly stop that now isn't going to do anything.
Scrumdidlyumptious
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 13:41:12
August 04 2011 13:38 GMT
#267
On August 04 2011 22:37 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 22:36 Scrumdidlyumptious wrote:
Poor Sang Ho and Clide gave up their wages to pay the team's operating expenses because Coach Lee claimed he hadn't received the sponsor money, even though he was keeping it for himself =( What a douchebag.


i highly doubt that any money was kept from sangho or clide. it was more like FD and trickster.

3. Even though the wages of the TSL players who returned theirs to help with operating expenses were different to FruitDealer and Trickster's sum, the manager used it in an interview to slander the two players. This is not a quality a team manager should possess.

The "TSL players who returned theirs" is referring to Sang Ho and Clide.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
August 04 2011 13:38 GMT
#268
standard lee...
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
August 04 2011 13:39 GMT
#269
I hope they(fruitdealer, trickster) can actually succeed in esports after all this drama
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 04 2011 13:39 GMT
#270
On August 04 2011 22:36 Bobster wrote:
Looks like Puma jumped ship just in time.


This doesn't make TSL look good.



Or perhaps this is what lead to your hypothetical ship sinking? Look at the time-line of the transgression.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
August 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#271
i found the last paragraph a bit odd. What is this SC2con thing able to use to leverage against teams in order to keep them in the SC2con?
seems to me like the TSL coach just peaced right out of their with no real consequences
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
August 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#272
On August 04 2011 22:33 DemiAlbedo wrote:
[...]

Can anyone tell me what the overall consequences are going to be for TSL now? Will their players be rejected or banned from certain tournaments?



First, thanks for translating OP :>

To consequences: I can only hope that GOMTV will react in any way and do something about TSL. Like the Rain thingy.

And even when Cool and Tester didnt practice at all they could be thrown out of the team AFTER being paid. There is no way TSL is allowed not to pay the salary and get away with it. Cool and Tester showed awesome results (Code S is an awesome - nobody can deny that) and TSL did know that Coll and Tester didnt want to practice much/at all when they joined TSL. The Coach just acted completly wrong and the team should suffer for this and because they arent going to pay the money that Cool and Tester are missing.
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
August 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#273
On August 04 2011 22:29 RusHXceL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 22:20 brachester wrote:
On August 04 2011 22:17 RusHXceL wrote:
Now I don't blame PuMa for leaving TSL.

Can we get a Mod in here and ban all those kids that brinign up this EG shit?


Really how about mods ban you for bringing the word EG.


backseat moderating, you go boi

man this is crazy, Poor TSL
kKagari
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia84 Posts
August 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#274
IMJunwi is the president? whattttttt?
eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
August 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#275
On August 04 2011 22:41 EtohEtoh wrote:
i found the last paragraph a bit odd. What is this SC2con thing able to use to leverage against teams in order to keep them in the SC2con?
seems to me like the TSL coach just peaced right out of their with no real consequences

I would imagine it would make any players looking to join TSL think twice.
Asday
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom388 Posts
August 04 2011 13:42 GMT
#276
On August 04 2011 20:59 teer wrote:
sixjax.Clide? Artosis orgasm

We don't want another August.WeRRa fiasco.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
August 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#277
I'm with Coach Lee on this one. FD & Trickster are ungreatful kids. Hopefully FD gets eliminated from GSL.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
poorbeggarman
Profile Joined August 2010
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 13:45:01
August 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#278

Actually they did have contracts.


Quotation?

This implies absence of contracts.



Timeline dude, timeline. They could get paid one month and the next month manager lies to them saying they're not receiving any sponsor moneyyy. They could have no place to go?


Except FD + Trickster left before Clide/Sangho returned their money. I'm not sure what you're suggesting by no place to go. You mean that Clide+Sangho left TSL and then return TSL because no team wanted them? Or you mean Clide/Sangho were talking to other teams besides TSL's back ? Ok, teams did talk to Clide/Sangho behind TSL's back, but Clide/Sangho said no.

Are you saying that some other TSL members were approached as well?
Yes, I found out through this whole ordeal. When SangHo and Clide were approached by other teams, they told me that they declined the offers due to their respect for TSL and the importance of continuing with the team that they originally started with. They thought it was best not to tell me since they thought it would cause unnecessary distractions and concerns.



Professional players slandering themselves to ruin their own reputation and future, excellent.


So you're saying that said interview never occurred?


I'm obviously saying that no rational player would slander themselves.


-초상권에 대해서는 이적한 선수입장을 고려하여 지급을 의사를 밝혔습니다. 다만, TSL 소속일 때 생산된 컨텐츠이며, 곧바로 수정이 불가능하였고, 수정을 하는데 시간이 들 수 밖에 없었습니다.

About the ads, due to those players leaving we brought up the idea of changing it, but due to the fact that the content was created while they were in TSl and the fact that it takes a while to modify the ads made it that it would take a lot of time to change the ads.

----------->>so Coach Lee is saying it was their responsibility to change it but because "it takes awhile" they just chose to run with em anyway. Nope, doesn't sound like G.Skill's responsibility to me.


You had a problem with Coach Lee "slandering" his players, now you think that Coach Lee should "slander" G.Skill? Isn't that pretty hypocritical?


Let me clarify, the quote above is Coach Lee himself admitting that it was his(TSL's) responsibility(whether complete or partial) to change ads. Absolutely nothing about "Coach lee slandering G.skill." in there.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
August 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#279
I see the future: TSL DISBANDS and the other members find a new team.
Wfat
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia108 Posts
August 04 2011 13:44 GMT
#280
Ok so from what I gather from this and the Puma/EG issue:

Coach Lee thinks it's acceptable to withhold salaries that have been agreed under good faith without signing a legally binding contract, but defames Puma/EG when Puma was not himself contracted. Childish, unprofessional... the whole situation with this bloke and TSL seems pretty fucked to me if this is the case.

Please tell me that this isn't the norm in Korean competitive gaming.
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