EG signs PuMa, responds to criticism - Page 61

On July 27 2011 02:32 originalred04 wrote:
Nothing unethical was done, what was unethical about this?? Coach Lee needs to grow a pair of balls and man up instead of being a little bitch! EG gains a great player, Puma gets more exposure and a ton more money, TSL learn to sigh your players, and get a sponsor so you can pay them.

On July 27 2011 02:33 WolfintheSheep wrote:


It's because people have this ridiculously preconceived notion of some mythical "Korean respect" system that supposedly means that coaches control every aspect of your career.

Hilarious that so many people are crying about some upcoming draconian contract system, when apparently it's supposed to be in place by virtue of "respect".

On July 27 2011 02:38 Zyphen wrote:
Are people reading the same BS I am? How did this statement clear anything up or make things all better? Because it's a giant wall of text and he's hoping to give you reader's fatigue?

Alex basically confirmed that he went to see and talk with Puma first before talking to TSL. Whether or not it was "legal" doesn't make it any less unethical of a business practice. People like Alex are the reason why you have to get a goddamn contract with your own mother now because a person's word doesn't mean anything anymore. Plus, he admits to doing it multiple times (i.e. Sen) with other players as well.

Alex's account of how Puma and Coach Lee "seemed fine with it at the time" is nothing but conjecture and disproven by the facts. Obviously, the coach wasn't fine with it. And letting Puma sit on the offer for as long as he did and laying the responsibility on him to inform his coach was a dick move and completely unprofessional. Puma being ok with it does not absolve Alex or EG of any blame. If anything, it just makes Puma almost as much of a dick.

I'm boycotting Puma, EG, and anything they're associated with.

On July 27 2011 02:38 Zyphen wrote:
Are people reading the same BS I am? How did this statement clear anything up or make things all better? Because it's a giant wall of text and he's hoping to give you reader's fatigue?

Alex basically confirmed that he went to see and talk with Puma first before talking to TSL. Whether or not it was "legal" doesn't make it any less unethical of a business practice. People like Alex are the reason why you have to get a goddamn contract with your own mother now because a person's word doesn't mean anything anymore. Plus, he admits to doing it multiple times (i.e. Sen) with other players as well.

Alex's account of how Puma and Coach Lee "seemed fine with it at the time" is nothing but conjecture and disproven by the facts. Obviously, the coach wasn't fine with it. And letting Puma sit on the offer for as long as he did and laying the responsibility on him to inform his coach was a dick move and completely unprofessional. Puma being ok with it does not absolve Alex or EG of any blame. If anything, it just makes Puma almost as much of a dick.

I'm boycotting Puma, EG, and anything they're associated with.

On July 27 2011 02:37 Vertical wrote:


Estro accepted PuMa
Estro raise PuMa
Estro train PuMa
TSL trained PuMa for less then a year and without a contract
TSL exposed PuMa
EG contracted PuMa properly

On July 27 2011 02:42 originalred04 wrote:
@Vertical

I understand that fact, but they benefited from having him there as well, and a man's gotta get paid, that's what it boils down to.

On July 27 2011 02:43 Klaus1986 wrote:

No one cares.

On July 27 2011 02:43 originalred04 wrote:
TSL fed him, but didn't pay him, now he can buy his own food plus whatever else he wants, thank you capitalism

On July 27 2011 02:46 Vertical wrote:


the only way for TSL to benefit from PuMa, is for PuMa to stay in TSL and be champion
therefore sponsors will be paying a lot for TSL because they have a champion

but yes, PuMa also needs paycheck
thats why I said his action is valid

but morally, I personally disliked it

On July 27 2011 02:46 Shiori wrote:

About 600 combined pages of various threads disagrees.

On July 27 2011 02:43 originalred04 wrote:
TSL fed him, but didn't pay him, now he can buy his own food plus whatever else he wants, thank you capitalism

On July 27 2011 02:44 farnham wrote:

fixed

On July 27 2011 02:47 Klaus1986 wrote:

Tell me about it. Everyone is happy except the fans who believe that some mythical form of respect-based hoopla exists.

On July 27 2011 02:47 Lokian wrote:


so would you like it if puma didn't become NASL champ and some guy in TSL. THen it would be okay? What the hell

On July 27 2011 02:48 originalred04 wrote:
@vertical

I totally understand your moral dislike...I guess I just numbed myself to that years ago.