MrBitter ist the one to get the new ESL TV caster. Before the official announcement the Vice President of Gaming David 'Affentod' Hiltscher posted on twitter that the ESL is gonna make a 'bitter' announcement in the next minutes.
Tweet by Affentod:
We have a very #bitter news announcement coming up soon.
Carmac's been dropping hints about Bitter as well, like when he was announced as an MLG caster. Carmac said something on Twitter along the lines of 'hope it's not his last casting job!'
I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!
Not a big fan, but he's fairly new to it and can still adapt to a more professional form of casting especially now that he's got an actual contract (of sorts).
To me he's always seemed like a guy who wants to come off as someone who is so deeply knowledgeable about the game - but just isn't. My main problem is his "I've got it all figured out" approach really.
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote: Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..
Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.
I'm torn on Mr. Bitter. I like his casting. But I dislike how his casting mirrors his 12 weeks with the pros. Many questions to his co caster, in the same tone as he was asking one of the players on his show. I also dislike his Zerg bias. Most of the other casters play random. (apolo d9, tasteless, artosis did z and p). He has a good way of saying things. For the most part congratulations. However i'm a fan of Rotterdam.
I think for the amount of experience he has, he's pretty damn good. I remember the first time he really casted (as far as I know) in the fubusama KOTH thing he was running, he really impressed me. He wasn't necessarily great in comparison to our favorite casters who have been doing it for years, but for someone who is new to it I think he is really fricken good. Give him some time and I am sure he will be an awesome caster, comparable to many of the proven casters we all know and love.
What exactly is ESL? Does this mean Bitter will be moving to Europe? Never the less I really like his casting style, and he never says anything that makes me turn off the volume.
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote: Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..
Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.
I think you guys should check out this Caster his style is really up and coming
I dont understand some people hating his cast, he understands the game enough to be as caster. AFAIK he has only done great job every time he has casted. (If this statement is invalid for some people they can provide casted match by mrbitter and tell which part is bad casting)
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him
the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?
Congrats to Mr.Bitter. While he isn't quite on the level of the greatest analytical casters such as Artosis or Day9, he's still very good, so I'm looking forward to his casting.
Well done!! I for one think MrBitter is up there casting wise as Artosis/Tasteless/Day9 he has extensive knowledge and is really good as tcasting, good luck sir i will watch some casts im sure !!
On July 26 2011 03:54 gogatorsfoster wrote: What exactly is ESL? Does this mean Bitter will be moving to Europe? Never the less I really like his casting style, and he never says anything that makes me turn off the volume.
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote: Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..
Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.
ESL is the Electronic Sports League and its an eSports-Company located in Cologne/Germany He will work for ESL TV and im pretty sure he will move to cologne and will cast with rotterdam. Mr.Bitter has a LOT of potential.hes a nice,friendly and smart guy who doesnt overract when a single pylon goes down. I like him and im wishing him all the best
I don't understand all the MrBitter hate. He obviously has some knowledge and plays on a higher level than most casters out there, his cast is -not- annoying which is a big plus and he tries to be analytic. He also casts Map of the Month which makes him a hero <3
This is probably the best full time caster ESL could get!
Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !
I really don't understand all the hate towards MrBitter. He is definitely top 3 in the best casters in the world. He is never biased. Has a great and exciting voice that is never annoying. Never repeats the same thing over and over like those other inferior casters. Great call by ESL to hire him!
On July 26 2011 04:16 Xiron wrote: Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !
Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down.
On July 26 2011 04:17 Ezze wrote: I really don't understand all the hate towards MrBitter. He is definitely top 3 in the best casters in the world. He is never biased. Has a great and exciting voice that is never annoying. Never repeats the same thing over and over like those other inferior casters. Great call by ESL to hire him!
confusing OP and thread title... i really dont know whats going on but its great if Bitter can actually work in the field full time. He needs to improve on his point of view about T and P though.
hmm... I like rotterdam and I didn't really hear enough casts by bitter to have an opinion about him. But I think giving rotti a partner will definetely improve the weekly esl tv casts. If he really is zerg biased than it will be extremely funny to hear him casting with rotti, since rotty hardly makes a secret about the fact that z is op in his opinion and is extremely protoss biased.
Also ESL TV is building a new Studio at the moment afaik. So it seems like they are really putting some effort into improving their program/casts :-)
On July 26 2011 04:16 Xiron wrote: Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !
Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down.
Congrats on getting the ESL job, you'll do great I think you're still a great player and you use that skill to become a type 2player and caster :p
kinda expected but awesome nonetheless, mrbitters 12 weeks with the pro's and it's follow up series was fun to watch even though i dont play zerg. Also nice for rotterdam to finally have a co-caster, he always looks so lonely on sundays :>
On July 26 2011 04:24 Torte de Lini wrote: I prefer Bitter as a caster than player to be honest. His caliber of play isn't up to par to the extensive knowledge he knows.
Glad he'll be applying to educate players and entertain instead of in his fingers! Good career choice!
That's his appeal to me, his zerg struggles on ladder feel so familiar to me!
I also think I'd prefer him as a solo caster as soon as he learns PvP, TvT and PvT. He never runs outta stuff to expound on.
Congrats to MrBitter and ESL, will tune in to as many hour-friendly-for-me shows as I can to check him out. As many people have said, he know the game and I enjoy his voice so it's a win-win.
I actually very much like Mr.Bitter. I think he is very proffesional and intelligent. He has a lot of knowledge of the game to not make silly mistakes and also can be pretty entertaining. I hope casters will be more like him, coz i think Mr.Bitter is overall the best commentator!
As much as I like Mr. Bitter's knowledge of the game, he consistently points out and completely focuses way too much on a player's mistakes and harps on them like he's the god of starcraft for way too long. Hopefully he'll eventually learn to tone down on his criticism because I like his voice.
When I saw Mr. Bitter on NASL, I was very satisfied. I thought he was articulate, insightful and kept the commentary at a good tempo. Looking forward to hearing him!
Grats to him. I'm not really a fan of him as a caster, but I'll make an effort to check him out on esl. Maybe he'll be better than I've seen him in the past.
If youve watched his stream lately, hes actually playing terran as a way to familiarize himself with the race. He also dropped some strong hints that the next 12 weeks is gonna be terran themed, which should be pretty good! Anyway, GJ MrBitter and Im happy to see that all his work towards the community is finally payign off for him
I don't like his casting, but that's because of his overwhelming zerg bias. If he toned it down a little he has great things to say. I just never remember him complementing any protoss or terran aside from the generic "he did a great job". Everytime a terran or protoss wins in a TvZ/PvZ it's all about how the "Zerg could've done better".
Very, very annoying....I hope he changes. Analytical casters are rare.
I really hope he gets some more experience with the other races as well, I really like his commentary when its a ZvX. He could also do with cutting down some on the zerg bias.
Though I am sure he already is working on improving his casting, looking forward to this.
Sounds like a good move for both Bitter and ESL. I am wondering though who will be his play-by-play co-caster will be because I don't have the feeling his dry analysis style will work well with everyone.
With 12 Weeks alone he has put a tremendous time into understanding the game, and is very well articulated to properly present that knowledge in his castings. Sure it is my personal preference, but I find both his voice as well as rhetoric pleasing to hear. He is one of the few that can easily switch between play-by-play and colour.
The alleged "horrible" zerg bias, I have yet to find, even as a random player myself. Most of the times he does call game or point out difficult or near-impossible situations, which are just that- very difficult for one side to overcome. It is much less bias, but brutal truth. As much as I don't care about Tastosis' similar tendency to throw the towel on either side. It makes it even more exciting when the player is actually able to pull through things.
Can he improve greatly on his overall knowledge? Sure, but who can't.
He's quite good, but I have to say this again. His zerg bias can be very off putting. If he can balance that aspect of his casting then I can say he is one of the best after day9 and tastosis.
I hope he takes this sort of criticism somewhat seriously.
Mr. Bitter did so much Stuff just because he loved it. He deserves a Job in eSports. Maybe all you Haters start doing something for the whole community before hating on him...
I'm made up for you Ben, the drive, desire and commitment coupled with your steely determination and passionate work ethic has led to this opportunity.
is he good ? never heared of him can anyone give me some collection of vods of him ? then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed )
Awesome shtuff he started out throwing his own money into making a show and now he's heading to Germany to cast in one of the biggest leagues out there, good luck mister B!
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no...
User was temp banned for this post.
May I ask why they are getting warned and banned? EDIT: NVM, just read the top note. Agree completely with the decision taken.
I also agree that this is a terrible move, but that is due to me disliking Mr.Bitter since I consider him one of the most biased casters at the moment just like some people dislike Husky for supposedly being unprofessional.
I sincerely wish MR.Bitter the best of luck on this new job even though I do not like his casting.
For me, unless he can change his casting style. This is a very bad decesion. The main problem is he tends to do a lot of "this protoss composition is unstoppable" or "this timing attack from terran is unstoppable" while everything zerg does is genius and toss/terran are like diamond nubs carried by their race.
I still remember a game he casted with TLO with toss vs terran. Toss was going zealot, archon, and some sentries. He kept asking TLO "this composition is unstoppable. This composition is hard to stop. What do you do against it?" TLO was like "add ghost and better map positioning". He was like "no not gonna work. this composition is too strong." Like he knows more than TLO in TvP....
He also uses a lot absolute terms which is very annoy to hear. However his voice and his knowledge is clearly there. If he can change his bias toward zerg then its fine. Like artosis and day9 both favor players and styles rather than race which makes them some of the best anayltical casters in the world.
The guy is likable tho and does a lot for the community so I am happy for him in that regard.
On July 26 2011 05:52 CoR wrote: is he good ? never heared of him can anyone give me some collection of vods of him ? then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed )
Having seen his weeks with the pros series I'm not a fan of his commentary at all. It seems like he bought his way into the scene hiring coaches to coach on his stream. Most all of the coaching itself was pretty uninformative, just my opinion on SC2 coaching in general is that it's not worth 10 dollars an hour (high masters). It just seemed like he hasn't earned a spot among the best casters and I'd really rather see other talent being picked up then relying on mediocre casting. He also has a pretty monotone voice with no real great depth to any analytical insight. Just a mediocre pickup that definitely will be a big pass on me watching any of these events.
On July 26 2011 06:03 Aphasie wrote: Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho...
while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups.
edit: nice ninjaedit on the quote to make it look better >.<, oh well ill let my post stay as it is.
Congrats to MrBitter but he needs to change his blatantly biased casting (I think more than enough people have noted that), I hope he listens to the opinions of TL.
Ok so all the people finding this terrible are warned or banned?
Seriously?
Isn't it normal to hate having a new major caster who is terrible as a caster and who is totally race biaised?
"If you are going to express your opinion, it better be articulated well. Shit posting will result in immediate bans - no warnings. Be safe, not sorry."
So people showing their support with only "great" or "nice" will be warned too I hope?
I'm mixed up on this one; I absolutely do not like his casting, because he's biased towards zerg, while I'm extremely anti-biased towards zerg (?), but I do like his attitude and his style, it's always laidback, yet he keeps it interesting. He also seems like a genuine, nice guy, which is great for RotterdaM to cast with imo. Will be quite interesting to see at least, the P v Z debates that will undoubtedly arise, I will watch it for sure though, even if it was just because I love Rotti's casting, but I have faith in Mr. B as well. Good luck to everyone involved!
On July 26 2011 06:03 Aphasie wrote: Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho...
while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups.
On July 26 2011 03:44 Arcanne wrote: not a fan of his casting tbh -_-
Have to agree, not only is he incredibly biased but his insight on the game is based off his own experience which is normal but he makes it sound 10000x harder for zerg and it becomes a depressing cast from the get go. Good luck to ESL though.
I don't actually know who MrBitter is, does anyone have examples of his casting? Where is he from? I think Rotterdam is a pretty good caster and does a decent job by himself or with guests tbh.
Awesome! Congrats to Mr.Bitter. His voice is sooo soothing, almost opposite of TotalBiscuit. First saw him in NASL casting w/ gretopr, I swore both looked like they were high as fuck, and were having a blast casting. Can't wait :D
On July 26 2011 05:57 phanto wrote: Congrats to Mr Bitter. IEM will probably be the first time I'll see him cast, will be interesting to see how he does
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote: I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!
This pretty much covered up everything I was thinking right now, great post!
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I'm moving to Germany!
are you gonna move in with rotterdam? i think he has a free romm since demuslim left to the states :D anyways, best of luck to you! cologne can be a really really great city.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)
I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.
I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.
I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)
I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.
I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.
I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I'm moving to Germany!
Just for ESL? Wow!
No. Not just for ESL.
When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)
I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.
I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.
I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I'm moving to Germany!
Just for ESL? Wow!
No. Not just for ESL.
When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast
when nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well. guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too?
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)
I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.
I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.
I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I'm moving to Germany!
Just for ESL? Wow!
No. Not just for ESL.
When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast
when nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well. guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too?
Would love to know what this other thing is. But esl is pretty big in europe espacially in germany. I hope you're gonna try play the eps!
I feel like mr bitter could be an awesome caster if he can get over the zerg "qq" during casts. Like during nasl it was honestly too much when a zerg played.
This is awesome =) I haven't seen too much of MrBitter's casting.. but I have watched his stream quite a bit and I'm excited to see how he does casting other people's matches
awesome, congrats~ I enjoyed the weeks with the pros, and everyone's got a small bias in them and it just makes casting that race that much better once harnessed...
For everyone saying he has a Zerg bias if you've been watching his stream lately you'll see that he's been getting coached on playing the different races to develop a better understanding of the match-ups. Pretty cool IMO. Best of luck to you Bitters!
Bitter is like a miniDay9 or Artosis in that he favor analysis which I like. The only thing I don't like is his zerg bias ... but hopefully that will change. He's def one of the better casters and actually has some playing background because of his 12 weeks with the pros thing.
awesome news...i have been waiting for long for Rotti to have a co-caster and Mr.Bitter is more then suitable for this, his casting and knowledge are prety good and i think they will make a good and entertaining casting duo gogo Mr.Bitter and good luck...may come and visit you guys in the future..once you get over here
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)
I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.
I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.
I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up
Wow, MrBitter. From streaming Zerg lessons on ustream, to moving to Germany to cast with ESL. You really had quite a run. I hope everything goes well and I hope you'll enjoy Germany
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up
Wow at people complaining at Mr Bitter casting? He doesn't have a bad voice. Also Day9 can't cast every event just like Tastosis can't cast every possible event in the world, chill out give a chance to other casters and players who are casting =/.
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote: I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!
I agree fully. I cannot fathom why people think he is a bad caster. He analyzes the game very well, he speaks in measured tones, has good articulation, doesn't use crude language as a crutch, and so on. He sounds like a professional caster should. Congratulations to him!
MB is one of the only casters who has forced me to change my initial opinion of them. When I first heard his casts I don't think I hated anyone more... but now I really enjoy listening to him talk. He's not overbearing and damn pleasurable on the ears.
I enjoy listening to him, so I'll check it out. The only thing is whenever I've listened to his casts he seems so bias towards zerg. "Fortunately <zerg player> is doing well", "Unfortunately <zerg player> is going to lose this", and the likes. Just what I've heard.
Nice, more Bitter casting is always a good thing. He isn't juvenile, he's articulate, he understands the game and he has a great casting voice. Great choice.
I don't want to get anyone banned for warned or anything like that, but if anyone could tell me what they don't like about Mr. Bitter, I'd be very interested in hearing what they have to say.
I'd like to say congrats to Ben. As someone who dreams of casting SC2, it's good to see someone "making it".
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
Don't think DeMuslim was in it fully either. He's also got a semi decent chance of playing the game better than Bitter. I hope Bitter plays all races now so we won't have a smooth talking idrA on TV. The last thing we want is constant whine. But his flow is awesome and if he touches it up with insights, I think we have a great caster in the making. Look at what happened with Gretorp, no reason why Bitter can't one up that.
congrats mrbitter. he's really insightful and informative and is good with words. i don't think the bias criticism has any merit. he's not biased because he thinks "zerg sux nerf toss and terran." he's biased in the sense that he has more information to relay about the zerg since he plays zerg himself. and that's totally fine.
I think MrBitter is a great commentator so I dont reallly get the flametalk here. I guess once the ball gets rolling, whiners and flamers will just tag along. Its a shame. MrBitter would be an asset as a commentator to any league or tournament.
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
I'm moving to Germany!
Nice! I wanna hug him and thank for 12 weeks with the pros and all his other stuff he is working on/with! Do you wanna give us any infos in which city you are moving?
Super exited in whats coming to ESL! Never watched ESl besides HSC but i will definatly look forward to that.
MrBitter is in my opinion a pretty good addition to the ESL-casting staff. I really enjoy his recents online casts and his 12 weeks with the pros project, so that I'm really looking forward to this first cast in his new "home". He is a much better choice for an commentator as for example Take who isn't able to cast games in a proper way (that's at least my point of view).
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up
who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually. it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so) so who else could esl have picked up?
also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game. btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.
I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once.
And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators.
yea welcome to germany dude! pretty huge step to move from the US to germany, so best of luck for a great and long carreer in germany!
Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style.
And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can!
HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff.
Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter!
On July 26 2011 20:18 JayJay_90 wrote: who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually. it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so) so who else could esl have picked up?
also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game. btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D
I only saw MrBitter casting at NASL. It felt like he was not favoring a race, but some players, he always tried to make positive comments about those players, which resulted in a lot of wrong comments, like watching queens with 150 energy and telling "This guy got decent macro" or watching how a player is spamming APM with the comment "He is doing so much, look at his APM", while it was obvious, that the player did nothing but spamming APM at that moment. I think MrBitter is overrated and his overall game knowledge seems to be average at best.
However, thinking about day[9], who forces me to adjust my sound volume 10 times per minute because he starts shouting way too loud when ever something happens, and who overanalyzes every single game (which already ruined some matches at MLG)... i still prefer MrBitter.
The main problem on casting is: No matter what you do, you will always be disliked by a lot of players. By saying "The game is balanced" you will get the same amount of haters as you will get from favoring a specific race. After all, we cannot clone Tastosis , so MrBitter is not the worst choice.
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him
the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?
Haha.. You zerg player? From U.S? Ahh.. Idra....wait wai u lafing? Are you no professional?
I liked bitters casting during the NASL, so this should be quite cool, and rotti is a nice caster aswell, hopefully this will allow him to catch his breath while casting esl
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.
I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once.
And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators.
Agree to disagree i guess. But the standard setup is a play-by-play guy and one specialist with deep knowledge of all races. Not one guy being very race specific and another one covering the other two races.
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc.
He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself!
Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid.
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc.
He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself!
Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid.
The logic that he uses his experience from playing Zerg on a competitive level to back his casting, which doesn't make him biased? Yeah, moronic.
I've always enjoyed Mr Bitters work. From near the start of the phenomenon that is SC2 it's seemed just that for him, work. Constantly educating, training, and asking questions of the pros in order to increase his understanding of the game, but mostly Zerg. Which brings me to my next point, as a Zerg I am biased (gasp) towards Mr. Bitter and am happy to see it, and his effort, rewarded. As for his biased I enjoy that too, because to me it's mostly tongue in cheek humor in a sea full of anger on both sides of the debate that is Zerg balance.
So yeah. Congrats dude, keep being so damn happy smiley all the time, it's refreshing.
I'd rather have a Master league Zerg than a Platinum league random. Also, it appears to me that he is eager to learn the other races and takes feedback quite seriously. I like his calmness in 12 weeks with the pros, but I didn't watch it too much to say more.
Btw, he will probably cast IEM? Since ESL has two international casters now, will they still fly in Day[9] for bigger events?
On July 26 2011 21:06 Graupe wrote: yea welcome to germany dude! pretty huge step to move from the US to germany, so best of luck for a great and long carreer in germany!
Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style.
And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can!
HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff.
Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter!
So unnecessary to hate in this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with MrBitter moving to Germany.
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter.
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"
He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.
Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.
People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.
Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?
Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well).
I liked his casting on NASL and I didn't feel any major bias issues that people seem to be bringing up here. I liked his analytical casting style so I think he'd work very well at ESL's studio.
haha kind makes me mad that this guy wanted to join the clan that i had started and i never messaged him back or anything. Haha hes getting so successful in the esports world now. Gl to Flabulous!
rotti and him will be a great duo will be even more interesting to watch for masters players because most likely he will be very anlytical and bring some more knowledge to the table
wouldve been so great if he and day9 would cast gamescom sadly its not looking like it is going to be that way
hm, i see terran bashing incoming when zerg(mr.bitter) and toss(rotterdam) players cast together. but bitter did a great job at nasl in my opinion, so i'm looking forward to him having another shot at it!
On July 26 2011 23:59 Semtext wrote: hm, i see terran bashing incoming when zerg(mr.bitter) and toss(rotterdam) players cast together. but bitter did a great job at nasl in my opinion, so i'm looking forward to him having another shot at it!
they'll probably be bashing each other, since rotterdam often comments on how OP zerg is.
I do think MrBitter gives a slight Z bias in his casting but that's to be expected. I'd much prefer a caster like MrBitter who can actually give strategic insight over some silly shoutcasting ^^
Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well).
That's maybe because neither Hack nor Hwangsin are zergs?
And comparing MrBitter to someone like Idra commentating is ridicolous, he's not on the level of pros like Idra, Ret, Morrow etc. He's more like a Rotti or Wolf, aka someone that plays and understands the game on a decent level but a step or two under the pros.
Congrats to Bitter!!! He is always entertaining. I enjoyed his casting the few times he appeared on NASL, and I look forward to hearing him cast at ESL. I'm sure he'll have a good time too.
I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.
Most boring and square caster to watch/listen to, dont see why anyone would pick him for anything. Casters like Totalbiscuit or even IGNs caster is way better and they're still not even close on par with Day9,D.apollo,Djwheat or tastosis.
Maybe im just used to BiS casters but meh whenever i see his stream i just feel like "uhh who would wanna watch that?"
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote: I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.
Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote: I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.
Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.
i prefer hearing him instead of alleged "unbiased" casters that have no clue about the game at all
Im very glad for MrBitter making it so far from nothing. He has done a lot to help the community already and I really enjoy his commentating. Very calm and nice voice, and he has a cool dialect.
Going to be fun to have a Zerg to cast longside famous Zerg-hater Rotti! :D So much bias towards Zerg in his casts haha. Great fun.
Happy for you MrBitter! Good luck with everything! Guess that means I will face MrBitter on the ladder now haha :D Awesome.
On July 27 2011 10:34 Apollo_Shards wrote: I dont understand why this guy is popular. I cannot stand his casting and I am not even that picky on casters.
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote: I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.
Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.
... because phenomenal caster grow on trees.
He has done so much already for the community. Yesterday I watched his stream where he presented some new community maps. Now he will move to a foreign country to be able to do even more for the communuty. His masterpiece so far is of course the 12 weeks with the pros series. What have you done so far for the community?
I like what he does for the community, but i dont think he is a good caster. Since i watch alot of ESL stuff im not that happy about these news. But maybe he can step up his skills and prove me wrong!
On July 27 2011 19:07 SlaverR wrote: I like what he does for the community, but i dont think he is a good caster. Since i watch alot of ESL stuff im not that happy about these news. But maybe he can step up his skills and prove me wrong!
May be he is happy with the feedback from most guys and don't really want to prove you wrong.
For example, I personally cannot stand a Husky cast. If feels like my ears begin to bleed. I could give a lot of detailed reasons what I don't like about his casts, but I am still happy that he is successful. He attracts a lot of guys into the scene. That is great. He should not change a bit, just to make me happy. I can watch an HD cast instead.
On ESL-TV, I miss strategical depth in Take's casts. He still brings the energy into the commentary. Rotterdam, while able to do analytic casts, leans too much towards Protoss for my taste. Mr. Bitter now can even the field with bringing the zerg's point of view into the casting.
Give the guy a break christ, all these people saying "awww no, oh god no " Don't watch him then? hes come along alot recently and the fact hes casting MLG ASWELL as gaining this casting position means he is a GOOD caster, he may not be the best, but he has to start somewhere and this is where.
I don't think Mr. Bitter is a perfect caster by any means but he does have excellent game knowledge. Given the amount of high level casting he will be doing now with MLG/ESL he will only improve and I expect great things from him in the future.
Pretty sure that after this MLG no one could dislike Mr bitter being the new caster.
He's got some of the best analytical casting outside of korea, absolutely fantastic hearing him go into strategy intricacies, especially because most of the time he's right!
On July 26 2011 03:44 namedplayer wrote: I don't like him. I won't watch ESL anyway
I don't really understand what anyone can have against him. He's contributed a TON to the community. And if I had to guess he has probably only broken even on what he's spent just on his "12 Weeks With The Pros," if that.
Congrats MrBitter! Love your casting personally, and I love what you do for the community. I hope more good fortune like this continues for you!
I really like Mr. Bitter's actual casting and I love his voice but I feel like he is very Zerg biased. Even when I'm watching him at MLG the way he looks/talks about T/PvZ pushes he makes it seem like it's going to be impossible to hold and then when they hold easily he's like OMG this guy is the best zerg player ever!!! But he never does that with T/P defending vZ. If he got his bias fixed he'd be high on my list for favourite casters, but I don't like listening to him now because I've heard enough Zerg QQ since the start of the Beta.
I personally think that mr bitter is a terrible caster. Not a big fan of husky either, however husky did quite well during mlg. Mr bitter was just annoying all the time.