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MrBitter new ESL TV caster

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m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:33:24
July 25 2011 18:38 GMT
#1
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MrBitter ist the one to get the new ESL TV caster. Before the official announcement the Vice President of Gaming David 'Affentod' Hiltscher posted on twitter that the ESL is gonna make a 'bitter' announcement in the next minutes.

Tweet by Affentod:
We have a very #bitter news announcement coming up soon.


Edit: Proofed by ESL. Youtube-Video

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Influ
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany780 Posts
July 25 2011 18:39 GMT
#2
omg, please no...

User was temp banned for this post.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 25 2011 18:39 GMT
#3
congratz to him

the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
July 25 2011 18:40 GMT
#4
Congrats dood
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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
July 25 2011 18:40 GMT
#5
Congrats.

Will never watch it though, probably.
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 18:42:39
July 25 2011 18:41 GMT
#6
Carmac's been dropping hints about Bitter as well, like when he was announced as an MLG caster. Carmac said something on Twitter along the lines of 'hope it's not his last casting job!'

gl hf Bitter. =)

Edit: tweets in question
http://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/95554698899234816
http://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/93963475495297024
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trNimitz
Profile Joined October 2010
204 Posts
July 25 2011 18:41 GMT
#7
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote:
omg, please no...

+1

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Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
July 25 2011 18:42 GMT
#8
Fuck yeah !

GG Ben!
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
July 25 2011 18:43 GMT
#9
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote:
omg, please no...

im signing this one

i hope day9 keeps casting IEM...

User was warned for this post
FTD
ilikeLIONZ
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany427 Posts
July 25 2011 18:44 GMT
#10
sigh... is he going to co-cast with rotti?
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
July 25 2011 18:44 GMT
#11
I don't like him. I won't watch ESL anyway
You know what I'm talking about
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 25 2011 18:44 GMT
#12
not a fan of his casting tbh -_-
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zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
July 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#13
I can only imagine, that Carmac is using this to troll everyone :D

If it is true and he will cast with Rotti, i will just PvZ cause they will both be a bit biased ^.^

Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
July 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#14
he´s only going to cast US-events/cups right?

gratz to him
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Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 18:46:50
July 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#15
On July 26 2011 03:43 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i hope day9 keeps casting IEM...


Day9 is not casting gamescom, so yeah, odds are him+rotterdam will cover upcoming IEM.

Congrats to mrbitter, good show.
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Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
July 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#16
Gonna be fun watching Rotti tease Bitter on his obvious zerg bias
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 25 2011 18:46 GMT
#17
He's a bit "edgy" in his speak. Needs to work on some smoothness. Otherwise I guess he aint too bad.
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YerknYass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
July 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#18
I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 18:49:27
July 25 2011 18:47 GMT
#19
Not a big fan, but he's fairly new to it and can still adapt to a more professional form of casting especially now that he's got an actual contract (of sorts).

To me he's always seemed like a guy who wants to come off as someone who is so deeply knowledgeable about the game - but just isn't. My main problem is his "I've got it all figured out" approach really.
Glowbox
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands330 Posts
July 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#20
Awesome news for MrBitter!

Can't wait to hear Rotti and Bitter cast.
ckye
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany206 Posts
July 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#21
Interesting addition. HF in Germany!
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
July 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#22
Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
July 25 2011 18:49 GMT
#23
Awesome. I love mr bitter. His shows helped me a ton.
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 18:51:08
July 25 2011 18:50 GMT
#24
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote:
Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..


Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 25 2011 18:51 GMT
#25
I'm torn on Mr. Bitter. I like his casting. But I dislike how his casting mirrors his 12 weeks with the pros. Many questions to his co caster, in the same tone as he was asking one of the players on his show. I also dislike his Zerg bias. Most of the other casters play random. (apolo d9, tasteless, artosis did z and p). He has a good way of saying things. For the most part congratulations. However i'm a fan of Rotterdam.
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ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
July 25 2011 18:52 GMT
#26
I think for the amount of experience he has, he's pretty damn good. I remember the first time he really casted (as far as I know) in the fubusama KOTH thing he was running, he really impressed me. He wasn't necessarily great in comparison to our favorite casters who have been doing it for years, but for someone who is new to it I think he is really fricken good. Give him some time and I am sure he will be an awesome caster, comparable to many of the proven casters we all know and love.
phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
July 25 2011 18:53 GMT
#27
nice. I'm sure he'll do a great job!
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 18:57:42
July 25 2011 18:54 GMT
#28
What exactly is ESL? Does this mean Bitter will be moving to Europe? Never the less I really like his casting style, and he never says anything that makes me turn off the volume.

On July 26 2011 03:50 Arcanne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote:
Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..


Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.


I think you guys should check out this Caster his style is really up and coming
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
July 25 2011 18:55 GMT
#29
I dont understand some people hating his cast, he understands the game enough to be as caster. AFAIK he has only done great job every time he has casted. (If this statement is invalid for some people they can provide casted match by mrbitter and tell which part is bad casting)
Drunken.Jedi
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany446 Posts
July 25 2011 18:56 GMT
#30
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote:
congratz to him

the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?




Congrats to Mr.Bitter. While he isn't quite on the level of the greatest analytical casters such as Artosis or Day9, he's still very good, so I'm looking forward to his casting.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
July 25 2011 18:57 GMT
#31
Well done!! I for one think MrBitter is up there casting wise as Artosis/Tasteless/Day9 he has extensive knowledge and is really good as tcasting, good luck sir i will watch some casts im sure !!
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Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
July 25 2011 18:57 GMT
#32
it s nice to have a caster with game knowledge.Congratz to mr bitter!
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 25 2011 18:59 GMT
#33
Finally a good english caster down there :D
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gladheateher1337
Profile Joined June 2011
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 19:02:08
July 25 2011 19:00 GMT
#34
On July 26 2011 03:54 gogatorsfoster wrote:
What exactly is ESL? Does this mean Bitter will be moving to Europe? Never the less I really like his casting style, and he never says anything that makes me turn off the volume.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 03:50 Arcanne wrote:
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote:
Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more..


Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that.


I think you guys should check out this Caster his style is really up and coming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDGf1G6mxQ&feature=player_embedded


ESL is the Electronic Sports League and its an eSports-Company located in Cologne/Germany
He will work for ESL TV and im pretty sure he will move to cologne and will cast with rotterdam.
Mr.Bitter has a LOT of potential.hes a nice,friendly and smart guy who doesnt overract when a single pylon goes down.
I like him and im wishing him all the best
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 19:03:06
July 25 2011 19:02 GMT
#35
great news! congratz!
now ESL pls get rid of rotterdam and I will finally be able to enjoy IEM fully
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LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
July 25 2011 19:05 GMT
#36
GRATS ! I am glad that they chose you !
Good luck in your future endeavours
pulperi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland87 Posts
July 25 2011 19:05 GMT
#37
I like Mr. Bitter. He is awesome.
Mr. Bitterdam?
cameronkrazie86
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States296 Posts
July 25 2011 19:06 GMT
#38
Sweet, definitely moves the ESL higher up on my viewing priority. Love MrBitter's commentary and his 12 weeks with the pro series. Great move ESL!
"You come at the King, you best not miss." - Omar Little
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 25 2011 19:06 GMT
#39
I don't understand all the MrBitter hate. He obviously has some knowledge and plays on a higher level than most casters out there, his cast is -not- annoying which is a big plus and he tries to be analytic. He also casts Map of the Month which makes him a hero <3

This is probably the best full time caster ESL could get!
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Zechs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom321 Posts
July 25 2011 19:10 GMT
#40
Pretty much the only listenable SC2 commentator for people with an IQ over 50. Great news.
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Daudr
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden275 Posts
July 25 2011 19:10 GMT
#41
MrBitter is awesome <3 GL&HF in ESL!
☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 25 2011 19:14 GMT
#42
Awesome, 12 weeks with the pros helped me a lot to learn zerg, and I really liked his casting in NASL.
I'll be watching!
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
July 25 2011 19:16 GMT
#43
Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
July 25 2011 19:16 GMT
#44
So glad that its officially announced! Very exited for Bitter to be in Germany
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TSM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Great Britain584 Posts
July 25 2011 19:16 GMT
#45
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote:
omg, please no...

User was temp banned for this post.



haven't some people got it yet?

anyway, good for MrBitter ,ore things you do is better for the community
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Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
July 25 2011 19:17 GMT
#46
I really don't understand all the hate towards MrBitter. He is definitely top 3 in the best casters in the world. He is never biased. Has a great and exciting voice that is never annoying. Never repeats the same thing over and over like those other inferior casters. Great call by ESL to hire him!
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
July 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#47
On July 26 2011 04:16 Xiron wrote:
Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !


Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
July 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#48
On July 26 2011 04:17 Ezze wrote:
I really don't understand all the hate towards MrBitter. He is definitely top 3 in the best casters in the world. He is never biased. Has a great and exciting voice that is never annoying. Never repeats the same thing over and over like those other inferior casters. Great call by ESL to hire him!


Have we listened to the same MrBitter?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7968 Posts
July 25 2011 19:19 GMT
#49
gratz Bitter! so happy for you
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
July 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#50
I like it.
Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
July 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#51
Looks like hard work pays off. I'm happy for the guy.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#52
Really happy for bitter.

I think he's a really good caster.
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Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#53
I'm really happy for Mr.Bitter, I've always enjoyed his commentating, and he's just full of knowledge of the game, if anyone deserves it, it is him.
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sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
July 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#54
Wow! Grats Mr. Bitter. Hope everything goes well.
He's put a lot of work in, I'm glad it paid off at least a little bit.
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#55
yeah. i like his casting and his shows. hope he can develope his own shows
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#56
Zergs wont stand a chance
Good casting voice
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drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
July 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#57
:o amazing! gogogo best of luck mr. bitter!

@nowSimon
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
July 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#58
I really don't see what is with the bitter hate (no pun). He is a great caster and has done many good things for the starcraft community!
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#59
I prefer Bitter as a caster than player to be honest. His caliber of play isn't up to par to the extensive knowledge he knows.

Glad he'll be applying to educate players and entertain instead of in his fingers! Good career choice!
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
July 25 2011 19:26 GMT
#60
I wonder if mrbitter knows Carnac...an opportunity arises.

It's good to see more solid ESL expansion, good luck!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 25 2011 19:26 GMT
#61
confusing OP and thread title... i really dont know whats going on but its great if Bitter can actually work in the field full time. He needs to improve on his point of view about T and P though.
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morbvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany358 Posts
July 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#62
hmm... I like rotterdam and I didn't really hear enough casts by bitter to have an opinion about him. But I think giving rotti a partner will definetely improve the weekly esl tv casts. If he really is zerg biased than it will be extremely funny to hear him casting with rotti, since rotty hardly makes a secret about the fact that z is op in his opinion and is extremely protoss biased.

Also ESL TV is building a new Studio at the moment afaik. So it seems like they are really putting some effort into improving their program/casts :-)
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
July 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#63
On July 26 2011 04:18 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 04:16 Xiron wrote:
Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him !


Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down.

Congrats on getting the ESL job, you'll do great I think you're still a great player and you use that skill to become a type 2player and caster :p
:O
Shorty90
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany154 Posts
July 25 2011 19:29 GMT
#64
Nice, I realy liked him in 12 weeks with the pros. I will definitely tune in sometime.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 25 2011 19:31 GMT
#65
Very cool, congrats man!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
July 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#66
kinda expected but awesome nonetheless, mrbitters 12 weeks with the pro's and it's follow up series was fun to watch even though i dont play zerg.
Also nice for rotterdam to finally have a co-caster, he always looks so lonely on sundays :>
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#67
On July 26 2011 04:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
I prefer Bitter as a caster than player to be honest. His caliber of play isn't up to par to the extensive knowledge he knows.

Glad he'll be applying to educate players and entertain instead of in his fingers! Good career choice!


That's his appeal to me, his zerg struggles on ladder feel so familiar to me!

I also think I'd prefer him as a solo caster as soon as he learns PvP, TvT and PvT. He never runs outta stuff to expound on.

Congrats on the new gig, Glück!
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
July 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#68
Congrats to MrBitter and ESL, will tune in to as many hour-friendly-for-me shows as I can to check him out. As many people have said, he know the game and I enjoy his voice so it's a win-win.
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
July 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#69
love mr bitter gg
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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
July 25 2011 19:36 GMT
#70
nice for him...i like his casting style
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5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
July 25 2011 19:37 GMT
#71
I actually very much like Mr.Bitter.
I think he is very proffesional and intelligent. He has a lot of knowledge of the game to not make silly mistakes and also can be pretty entertaining.
I hope casters will be more like him, coz i think Mr.Bitter is overall the best commentator!

Wish you the best Mr.Bitter!
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Cyberus
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany148 Posts
July 25 2011 19:37 GMT
#72
Take just googled "Mr bitter" on his stream because he didn't know who he was :-D
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
July 25 2011 19:38 GMT
#73
Congratulations, I think your casting is always quite good analytically, and your composure is quite good as well.
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
July 25 2011 19:40 GMT
#74
As much as I like Mr. Bitter's knowledge of the game, he consistently points out and completely focuses way too much on a player's mistakes and harps on them like he's the god of starcraft for way too long. Hopefully he'll eventually learn to tone down on his criticism because I like his voice.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
July 25 2011 19:41 GMT
#75
Great news for me because I like Mr. Bitter. Yay!
Hope day9 will still cast co-cast the IEM world finals at least. <3
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
July 25 2011 19:42 GMT
#76
Gratz man :D
asdfg
Parsistamon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
July 25 2011 19:42 GMT
#77
When I saw Mr. Bitter on NASL, I was very satisfied. I thought he was articulate, insightful and kept the commentary at a good tempo. Looking forward to hearing him!
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
July 25 2011 19:43 GMT
#78
Grats to him. I'm not really a fan of him as a caster, but I'll make an effort to check him out on esl. Maybe he'll be better than I've seen him in the past.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
July 25 2011 19:45 GMT
#79
If youve watched his stream lately, hes actually playing terran as a way to familiarize himself with the race. He also dropped some strong hints that the next 12 weeks is gonna be terran themed, which should be pretty good!
Anyway, GJ MrBitter and Im happy to see that all his work towards the community is finally payign off for him
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
July 25 2011 19:46 GMT
#80
Yay bitter!!!
RIP MBC Game Hero
Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
July 25 2011 19:48 GMT
#81
YAY! I love mrbitter... I think he's a wonderful caster and would be a great move by ESL
Michigan Zerg Player
zturchan
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada156 Posts
July 25 2011 19:56 GMT
#82
Great news - I'm a big #bitter fan.
1nfamous
Profile Joined October 2009
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 19:58:39
July 25 2011 19:58 GMT
#83
great caster, great pickup by esl, good luck mr.bitter!
ManOnBoy
Profile Joined December 2010
37 Posts
July 25 2011 19:59 GMT
#84
what the hell is ESL?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
July 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#85
Not a big fan, but congratulations!
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#86
I don't like his casting, but that's because of his overwhelming zerg bias. If he toned it down a little he has great things to say. I just never remember him complementing any protoss or terran aside from the generic "he did a great job". Everytime a terran or protoss wins in a TvZ/PvZ it's all about how the "Zerg could've done better".

Very, very annoying....I hope he changes. Analytical casters are rare.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:01:49
July 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#87
I really hope he gets some more experience with the other races as well, I really like his commentary when its a ZvX. He could also do with cutting down some on the zerg bias.

Though I am sure he already is working on improving his casting, looking forward to this.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#88
Sounds like a good move for both Bitter and ESL. I am wondering though who will be his play-by-play co-caster will be because I don't have the feeling his dry analysis style will work well with everyone.
Alexl
Profile Joined January 2011
288 Posts
July 25 2011 20:01 GMT
#89
Will he be moving to cologne?
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 25 2011 20:02 GMT
#90
Do you have plans to program 12 weeks with the pro with ESL tv? (he was planning to do one for protoss and terran as far as I know)
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
July 25 2011 20:03 GMT
#91
MrBitter is a beast!

With 12 Weeks alone he has put a tremendous time into understanding the game, and is very well articulated to properly present that knowledge in his castings. Sure it is my personal preference, but I find both his voice as well as rhetoric pleasing to hear. He is one of the few that can easily switch between play-by-play and colour.

The alleged "horrible" zerg bias, I have yet to find, even as a random player myself. Most of the times he does call game or point out difficult or near-impossible situations, which are just that- very difficult for one side to overcome. It is much less bias, but brutal truth. As much as I don't care about Tastosis' similar tendency to throw the towel on either side. It makes it even more exciting when the player is actually able to pull through things.

Can he improve greatly on his overall knowledge? Sure, but who can't.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
July 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#92
TaKe is Terran biased.
Rotterdam is Protoss biased.

MrBitter is Zerg biased. I like.
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Scereye
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:12:30
July 25 2011 20:07 GMT
#93
Officially confirmed! :D


Great acting by Rotterdam btw.
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
July 25 2011 20:10 GMT
#94
Great news, love him as a commentator even though he can sometimes be a little boring.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:14:05
July 25 2011 20:13 GMT
#95
On July 26 2011 05:07 Scereye wrote:
Officially confirmed! :D
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvRQUvs9ls

Great acting by Rotterdam btw.

nice video. thanks mate
keep it deep! @zulison
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:15:38
July 25 2011 20:14 GMT
#96
I had to dig around for this image, but its so worth it.

[image loading]

You fucking rule, man. I'll be watching every ESL event!
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Markionium
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
July 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#97
wow, he's actually gonna move to Germany also. Pretty big step for himself also.

Grats mrbitter and looking forward to the content :D
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 25 2011 20:18 GMT
#98
:O, First MLG and now ESL :D.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
July 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#99
Mr.Bitter is seriously one of the coolest guys in esports and a great caster to boot. Congrats to him.
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
Dont-Panic
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany567 Posts
July 25 2011 20:21 GMT
#100
Great pick.
<3 Mr Bitter!
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany818 Posts
July 25 2011 20:22 GMT
#101
On July 26 2011 05:19 Crumpet wrote:
Mr.Bitter is seriously one of the coolest guys in esports and a great caster to boot. Congrats to him.


I´ll just quote you, because well... I couldn´t say it better
Really looking forward to this !
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
MrNuby
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden40 Posts
July 25 2011 20:25 GMT
#102
Really like the casting he's done with Orb, so I'm glad to see him getting more opportunities to cast even more stuff.

GLHF Bitter
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
July 25 2011 20:26 GMT
#103
Congrats to Mr.Bitter
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
Stocc
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany25 Posts
July 25 2011 20:27 GMT
#104
It´s highly official now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvRQUvs9ls
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
July 25 2011 20:28 GMT
#105
not a fan. but congrats on the job, Bitter.

he's very biased towards zerg. I hope with this he gets more practice and fixes that one flaw that makes me not like him much.

best of luck at ESL <3
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
VeganWrath
Profile Joined November 2010
United States17 Posts
July 25 2011 20:29 GMT
#106
Congrats!
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
July 25 2011 20:30 GMT
#107
As long as he's biased towards zerg, I like him :D
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:31:21
July 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#108
He's quite good, but I have to say this again. His zerg bias can be very off putting. If he can balance that aspect of his casting then I can say he is one of the best after day9 and tastosis.

I hope he takes this sort of criticism somewhat seriously.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Baeras
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
July 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#109
grats go mr bitter
Bet on it!
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
July 25 2011 20:32 GMT
#110
Welcome to the team, Ben!

I am sure MLG Anaheim will get MrBitter some converts, and there's going to be much more bitterness to follow!
www.intelextrememasters.com
LeFroMaGe
Profile Joined October 2010
United States628 Posts
July 25 2011 20:33 GMT
#111
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote:
omg, please no...

User was temp banned for this post.

While I agree with this post, I'll put it in better words, I wish him the best, and by that I mean I hope he improves his casting.
JohnnyYen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States313 Posts
July 25 2011 20:35 GMT
#112
I am looking forward to the ZvP casting duo, congratulations. :D
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
July 25 2011 20:37 GMT
#113
Imo besides dApollo the best analytical caster ESL realistically could get.

Altough I hope he tunes his Zerg bias down a bit

Good luck and have fun in Germany!
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
July 25 2011 20:38 GMT
#114
I for one love mr bitter!! this is great news have fun in germany! keep practicing your terran xD
TSM
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
July 25 2011 20:42 GMT
#115
finally a new roommate for rotti :D

Mr. Bitter did so much Stuff just because he loved it. He deserves a Job in eSports. Maybe all you Haters start doing something for the whole community before hating on him...

"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
July 25 2011 20:43 GMT
#116
Not a fan aswell.
But congrats to the job.
Im just a zerg
Ramuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany238 Posts
July 25 2011 20:43 GMT
#117
great! i hope you will do a new season of your own show on esl tv. that'd be sweet. When will he start?
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
July 25 2011 20:43 GMT
#118
Official post http://www.esl.eu/eu/news/#/eu/news/166253/MrBitter-joins-ESL-TV-crew/

I'm made up for you Ben, the drive, desire and commitment coupled with your steely determination and passionate work ethic has led to this opportunity.

All the best for the future - you rock Sir.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 25 2011 20:52 GMT
#119
is he good ? never heared of him can anyone give me some collection of vods of him ?
then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed )
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
July 25 2011 20:52 GMT
#120
Awesome shtuff he started out throwing his own money into making a show and now he's heading to Germany to cast in one of the biggest leagues out there, good luck mister B!
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
July 25 2011 20:54 GMT
#121
Nice! Big fan of Mr. Bitter

Love his coaching stream too, very insightful
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
PWNTAR
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
July 25 2011 20:54 GMT
#122
I'm fine with it. I think I prefer him over Husky/HD/Cat's P. Keeps it straight forward and not overzealous and the little things
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:58:57
July 25 2011 20:57 GMT
#123
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote:
omg, please no...

User was temp banned for this post.



May I ask why they are getting warned and banned?
EDIT: NVM, just read the top note. Agree completely with the decision taken.


I also agree that this is a terrible move, but that is due to me disliking Mr.Bitter since I consider him one of the most biased casters at the moment just like some people dislike Husky for supposedly being unprofessional.

I sincerely wish MR.Bitter the best of luck on this new job even though I do not like his casting.


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phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
July 25 2011 20:57 GMT
#124
Congrats to Mr Bitter. IEM will probably be the first time I'll see him cast, will be interesting to see how he does
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:59:21
July 25 2011 20:58 GMT
#125
Good choise I like Mr biitter.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
July 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#126
I like MrBitter, good choice.
Looking forward to his casting : ).
wat
iRon aka bananajuice
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany124 Posts
July 25 2011 21:00 GMT
#127
hmm saw not much of his casting yet, but honestly i am not very excited to see him
MKP|MMA|NesTea|Leenock|MC|Stephano|Naama|DongRaeGu|Socke
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:04:46
July 25 2011 21:02 GMT
#128
For me, unless he can change his casting style. This is a very bad decesion. The main problem is he tends to do a lot of "this protoss composition is unstoppable" or "this timing attack from terran is unstoppable" while everything zerg does is genius and toss/terran are like diamond nubs carried by their race.

I still remember a game he casted with TLO with toss vs terran. Toss was going zealot, archon, and some sentries. He kept asking TLO "this composition is unstoppable. This composition is hard to stop. What do you do against it?" TLO was like "add ghost and better map positioning". He was like "no not gonna work. this composition is too strong." Like he knows more than TLO in TvP....

He also uses a lot absolute terms which is very annoy to hear. However his voice and his knowledge is clearly there. If he can change his bias toward zerg then its fine. Like artosis and day9 both favor players and styles rather than race which makes them some of the best anayltical casters in the world.

The guy is likable tho and does a lot for the community so I am happy for him in that regard.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
July 25 2011 21:02 GMT
#129
On July 26 2011 05:52 CoR wrote:
is he good ? never heared of him can anyone give me some collection of vods of him ?
then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed )


You can check his 12 Weeks with the pros at www.evolutioncomplete.com. He also cast in NASL S1, vods on their web: www.nasl.tv.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:05:00
July 25 2011 21:03 GMT
#130
Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho...
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:04:44
July 25 2011 21:04 GMT
#131
MrBitter moving to Germany? :o :o

Big news!

Greatly looking forward to some Rotti + MrBitter love.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
July 25 2011 21:06 GMT
#132
Having seen his weeks with the pros series I'm not a fan of his commentary at all. It seems like he bought his way into the scene hiring coaches to coach on his stream. Most all of the coaching itself was pretty uninformative, just my opinion on SC2 coaching in general is that it's not worth 10 dollars an hour (high masters). It just seemed like he hasn't earned a spot among the best casters and I'd really rather see other talent being picked up then relying on mediocre casting. He also has a pretty monotone voice with no real great depth to any analytical insight. Just a mediocre pickup that definitely will be a big pass on me watching any of these events.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:23:05
July 25 2011 21:06 GMT
#133
On July 26 2011 06:03 Aphasie wrote:
Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho...


while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups.

edit: nice ninjaedit on the quote to make it look better >.<, oh well ill let my post stay as it is.


Team NSHoseo <3
DeflowSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden76 Posts
July 25 2011 21:09 GMT
#134
Congratulations to Ben! Well deserved
Loose and Learn
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
July 25 2011 21:10 GMT
#135
Congrats to MrBitter but he needs to change his blatantly biased casting (I think more than enough people have noted that), I hope he listens to the opinions of TL.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:17:44
July 25 2011 21:15 GMT
#136
Ok so all the people finding this terrible are warned or banned?

Seriously?

Isn't it normal to hate having a new major caster who is terrible as a caster and who is totally race biaised?

"If you are going to express your opinion, it better be articulated well. Shit posting will result in immediate bans - no warnings. Be safe, not sorry."

So people showing their support with only "great" or "nice" will be warned too I hope?
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5244 Posts
July 25 2011 21:17 GMT
#137
His race bias is annoying, and I don't particularly like him, but I suppose I will wait until MLG before passing judgement.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 25 2011 21:17 GMT
#138
I'm mixed up on this one; I absolutely do not like his casting, because he's biased towards zerg, while I'm extremely anti-biased towards zerg (?), but I do like his attitude and his style, it's always laidback, yet he keeps it interesting. He also seems like a genuine, nice guy, which is great for RotterdaM to cast with imo.
Will be quite interesting to see at least, the P v Z debates that will undoubtedly arise, I will watch it for sure though, even if it was just because I love Rotti's casting, but I have faith in Mr. B as well.
Good luck to everyone involved!

On July 26 2011 06:06 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:03 Aphasie wrote:
Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho...


while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups.

It appears I have been chosen.
ZergFarm
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany62 Posts
July 25 2011 21:17 GMT
#139
Mr Bitter on ESL is very nice and hopefully also more Starcraft content.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
July 25 2011 21:18 GMT
#140
gratz MrBitter! keep the zerg bias down tho :D
Marauder Die Die
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
July 25 2011 21:20 GMT
#141
On July 26 2011 03:44 Arcanne wrote:
not a fan of his casting tbh -_-
Have to agree, not only is he incredibly biased but his insight on the game is based off his own experience which is normal but he makes it sound 10000x harder for zerg and it becomes a depressing cast from the get go. Good luck to ESL though.
SlayerS Fighting!
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
July 25 2011 21:20 GMT
#142
I don't actually know who MrBitter is, does anyone have examples of his casting? Where is he from? I think Rotterdam is a pretty good caster and does a decent job by himself or with guests tbh.
"Makin' Pylons, Makin' Probes, Fightin' Round The World" - Russell Crowe
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 25 2011 21:20 GMT
#143
Awesome! Congrats to Mr.Bitter. His voice is sooo soothing, almost opposite of TotalBiscuit. First saw him in NASL casting w/ gretopr, I swore both looked like they were high as fuck, and were having a blast casting. Can't wait :D
liftlift > tsm
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
July 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#144
Wait, doesn't Rotti think zerg is OP and bitter thinks it's UP?

Oh this is going to be good.
aka ilovesharkpeople
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
July 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#145
On July 26 2011 05:57 phanto wrote:
Congrats to Mr Bitter. IEM will probably be the first time I'll see him cast, will be interesting to see how he does


No, it won't be
www.intelextrememasters.com
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 25 2011 21:23 GMT
#146
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote:
I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!


This pretty much covered up everything I was thinking right now, great post!
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#147
Grats to Mr. Bitter, really like him, hes a really cool guy and a pretty good caster as well
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#148
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#149
Yey, congratulations for MrBitter! <3
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
July 25 2011 21:28 GMT
#150
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
July 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#151
Good to see Bitter finally getting his due for all that he has done for the community
Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
July 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#152
Mrbitter is such a stud for the community he deserves this and the paycheck it entails.
slap me I must be dreaming another "imba" arugment! fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
July 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#153
ESL just won ESPORTS.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#154
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!

are you gonna move in with rotterdam? i think he has a free romm since demuslim left to the states :D
anyways, best of luck to you! cologne can be a really really great city.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#155
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
sTb
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany85 Posts
July 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#156
Great news. Bitter deserved this so much and ESL made a great addition to their team.
Looking forward to see their stuff.
RuN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Brazil234 Posts
July 25 2011 21:36 GMT
#157
Congratz Ben ! You more than earned that spot. I am a big fan of your casting. <3
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ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
July 25 2011 21:39 GMT
#158
I think RotterdaM and MrBitter could be a pretty awesome duo. Not bad ESL, not bad.
HerO - iNcontroL - DeMusliM - TaeJa - JaeDong
Zislu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden17 Posts
July 25 2011 21:40 GMT
#159
Big mistake...

User was warned for this post
Jävla skit spel
cnas
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden640 Posts
July 25 2011 21:43 GMT
#160
I've been a big fan since the 12 weeks, congratulations on the job :D

Rottie and mrBitter would indeed be an awesome duo (MrBitterdam?)
One more game, bro's!
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 25 2011 21:46 GMT
#161
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote:
congratz to him

the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?

omg lol :D let's hope not xD
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 25 2011 21:46 GMT
#162
F*ck yeah! Go Mr. Bitter!!!!
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#163
Gratz Mr.Bitter!!! Cant wait to meet you in Cologne at IEM.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
July 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#164
Awesome! So nice to see how he got himself involved with just streaming the coaching sessions and then starting 12 weeks and now it results in this.
There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:51:48
July 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#165
Congrats to Mr. Bitter , ESL and especially Carmac. you sir are a genius in every possible way

Hope you'll like it here in Germany. And you're really biased toward SC2

Maybe we'll be hearing more about it on Kings of Tin later? Already looking forward to it
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
July 25 2011 21:50 GMT
#166
Awesome news! I look forward to Bitter's casts, always gives great analysis.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
July 25 2011 21:52 GMT
#167
Fuck all the haters. Grats man.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
July 25 2011 21:54 GMT
#168
Welcome to germany! Cologne is a great city :p
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
July 25 2011 21:58 GMT
#169
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick:
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)

I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.

I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.

I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.

and also:


On July 26 2011 06:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!


No. Not just for ESL.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 25 2011 21:59 GMT
#170
I wonder how long it will take for him to swear and joke around like Rotti Will be an interesting team to watch in the start.

Grats all involved.

I am not young enough to know everything.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
July 25 2011 22:04 GMT
#171
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote:
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick:
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)

I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.

I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.

I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.

and also:


Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!


No. Not just for ESL.


When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
July 25 2011 22:07 GMT
#172
Congrats
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 25 2011 22:08 GMT
#173
Why all the hate on Mr.Bitter. I love this guy!
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
July 25 2011 22:08 GMT
#174
On July 26 2011 07:04 Nerchio wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote:
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick:
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)

I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.

I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.

I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.

and also:


Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!


No. Not just for ESL.


When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast


when nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well.
guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too?
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
July 25 2011 22:10 GMT
#175
On July 26 2011 07:08 Toxi78 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 07:04 Nerchio wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote:
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick:
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)

I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.

I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.

I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.

and also:


Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!


No. Not just for ESL.


When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast


when nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well.
guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too?


Would love to know what this other thing is. But esl is pretty big in europe espacially in germany. I hope you're gonna try play the eps!
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
July 25 2011 22:10 GMT
#176
Congrats to Mr. Bitter, my only hope is that he stops saying things are hard for zerg every other second. Best of luck though, been a big fan
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 25 2011 22:11 GMT
#177
The smooth and buttery voice!
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 25 2011 22:12 GMT
#178
I feel like mr bitter could be an awesome caster if he can get over the zerg "qq" during casts. Like during nasl it was honestly too much when a zerg played.
evilduky666
Profile Joined February 2010
United States101 Posts
July 25 2011 22:14 GMT
#179
This is awesome =) I haven't seen too much of MrBitter's casting.. but I have watched his stream quite a bit and I'm excited to see how he does casting other people's matches
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 25 2011 22:15 GMT
#180
Administrator
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
July 25 2011 22:15 GMT
#181
Heeeeeeeell yes

MrBitter has the best sounding voice ever, plus exlcuding tastosis he's one of the best analytical casters there is.
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
July 25 2011 22:26 GMT
#182
Yay! Mr BITTER! Don't take the flaming seriously they are just upset.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
July 25 2011 22:28 GMT
#183
awesome, congrats~ I enjoyed the weeks with the pros, and everyone's got a small bias in them and it just makes casting that race that much better once harnessed...

:P
StreetHeat
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States225 Posts
July 25 2011 22:29 GMT
#184
For everyone saying he has a Zerg bias if you've been watching his stream lately you'll see that he's been getting coached on playing the different races to develop a better understanding of the match-ups. Pretty cool IMO. Best of luck to you Bitters!
“If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. On dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you” -Bruce Lee
Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
July 25 2011 22:31 GMT
#185
very very cool, i love Dr.Bitter
http://www.gentle-nerds.com
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
July 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#186
Sweet, I really liked him during NASL.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 25 2011 22:50 GMT
#187
Bitter is like a miniDay9 or Artosis in that he favor analysis which I like. The only thing I don't like is his zerg bias ... but hopefully that will change. He's def one of the better casters and actually has some playing background because of his 12 weeks with the pros thing.
quen
Profile Joined March 2011
201 Posts
July 25 2011 22:50 GMT
#188
Grats Bitter, and good to hear you're working on your non-Zerg MUs too.

I'm sure you'll do just fine!
Pingoo
Profile Joined September 2010
France48 Posts
July 25 2011 22:56 GMT
#189
Gratz Mr.Bitter !! Keep up the good work. Hope to see in live event during IEM.
ThorZain is a Baller !!
volen
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany28 Posts
July 25 2011 23:05 GMT
#190
awesome news...i have been waiting for long for Rotti to have a co-caster and Mr.Bitter is more then suitable for this, his casting and knowledge are prety good and i think they will make a good and entertaining casting duo
gogo Mr.Bitter and good luck...may come and visit you guys in the future..once you get over here
Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 23:34:34
July 25 2011 23:34 GMT
#191
On July 26 2011 07:15 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:



Team LiquidOur friendship will be the stuff of legend.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
July 25 2011 23:36 GMT
#192
So he will be casting IEM? Good for him. His casting is in general good except for his silly zerg bias in every game he casts.
Philo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States337 Posts
July 25 2011 23:47 GMT
#193
He's good. I'm glad hes got a steady paid gig now.

Wish Mr.B does some more of those With the Pros shows in his offtime though.
Other people do 24 hour streams. I just let GoOdy play a Bo11 TvT. - Special Endrey
Pessle
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom37 Posts
July 25 2011 23:55 GMT
#194
Gratz bitter :D bring clothes for warm weather though bro xD aparently the esl studio is rly rly hot lmao
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 23:59:04
July 25 2011 23:58 GMT
#195
Congrats Bitter; love to see you getting more casting gigs after all the work you have done with the community. And in the words of Nazgul

In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 23:59:30
July 25 2011 23:59 GMT
#196
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote:
I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick:
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums)

I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly.

I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game.

I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be.

and also:


Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Just for ESL?
Wow!


No. Not just for ESL.


Fun times :D can't wait for it~
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
July 26 2011 00:03 GMT
#197
So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there
why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one.
I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
July 26 2011 00:09 GMT
#198
On July 26 2011 04:02 gwixter wrote:
great news! congratz!
now ESL pls get rid of rotterdam and I will finally be able to enjoy IEM fully


Huh? Rottie is alot better than most other "famous" casters. And he is top Masters so its not like he doesnt know the game.

Gtfo if you cant even give a reason.
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FLu
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany147 Posts
July 26 2011 00:11 GMT
#199
Wow, MrBitter.
From streaming Zerg lessons on ustream, to moving to Germany to cast with ESL. You really had quite a run. I hope everything goes well and I hope you'll enjoy Germany
Orsm
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany16 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#200
Congrats Mr.Bitter! I really enjoyed your 12 weeks with the pros show and your casting.

I wish you best of luck in germany (are you moving to Cologne?). Maybe i'll run into you at gamescom ;>
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
July 26 2011 00:26 GMT
#201
This guy is a professional, good to see him get this role.
Stallion
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand67 Posts
July 26 2011 00:35 GMT
#202
congrats to mr bitter really looking forward to hearing him
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
July 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#203
Congratulations to him! He deserves it!
SamsLiST
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany184 Posts
July 26 2011 01:16 GMT
#204
yeah MrBitter! awesome!
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
July 26 2011 01:19 GMT
#205
I dont get all the negativity He's a great guy and I enjoy watching him.

Congratulations
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
July 26 2011 02:06 GMT
#206
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there
why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one.
I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up


in europe? like who? homerj?
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 02:14:05
July 26 2011 02:13 GMT
#207
Wow at people complaining at Mr Bitter casting? He doesn't have a bad voice. Also Day9 can't cast every event just like Tastosis can't cast every possible event in the world, chill out give a chance to other casters and players who are casting =/.
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
SirRobin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
July 26 2011 02:19 GMT
#208
yeah Mr.Bitter! I'm excited to watch
https://twitter.com/SirRobinSC2
sLBraemar
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 02:22:09
July 26 2011 02:21 GMT
#209
Wow, gratz on getting this job and moving to Germany! NA will miss you MrBitter! <3
Don't wait for an opportunity to come to you, create your own.
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
July 26 2011 02:22 GMT
#210
just got to you know you recently through one of the TLOpen castings, congratz and enjoy the experience!
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deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
July 26 2011 02:27 GMT
#211
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote:
I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting!


I agree fully. I cannot fathom why people think he is a bad caster. He analyzes the game very well, he speaks in measured tones, has good articulation, doesn't use crude language as a crutch, and so on. He sounds like a professional caster should. Congratulations to him!
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
July 26 2011 03:05 GMT
#212
Nice for him. Hopefully this will improve his casting
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xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
July 26 2011 03:18 GMT
#213
yayayay congrats!
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xorbot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
July 26 2011 03:30 GMT
#214
MB is one of the only casters who has forced me to change my initial opinion of them. When I first heard his casts I don't think I hated anyone more... but now I really enjoy listening to him talk. He's not overbearing and damn pleasurable on the ears.

Plus no more Emo Rotti!
eXwOn
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada351 Posts
July 26 2011 03:33 GMT
#215
I enjoy listening to him, so I'll check it out. The only thing is whenever I've listened to his casts he seems so bias towards zerg. "Fortunately <zerg player> is doing well", "Unfortunately <zerg player> is going to lose this", and the likes. Just what I've heard.

Annnnyyyywho best of luck!
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Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
July 26 2011 03:43 GMT
#216
About time he got himself a casting spot! great guy can't wait to see him cast.
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
July 26 2011 03:44 GMT
#217
Meh, it seems like all the new casters popping up are quite lackluster. Tastosis set the bar too high up for casting I suppose.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
July 26 2011 03:45 GMT
#218
Grats MrBitter I really enjoy the things you produce!
Loose lips sink ships
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
July 26 2011 03:47 GMT
#219
Knew it and love it. Mr.bitter s a great caster.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
July 26 2011 04:23 GMT
#220
Forget the haters man, congrats! I was personally a huge fan of your casting during the NASL, and I can't wait to see more from you!
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
July 26 2011 04:57 GMT
#221
Congrats MrBitter!!!!! Well earned! <3
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 26 2011 05:01 GMT
#222
Nice, more Bitter casting is always a good thing. He isn't juvenile, he's articulate, he understands the game and he has a great casting voice. Great choice.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
NexaS
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States202 Posts
July 26 2011 05:44 GMT
#223
I don't want to get anyone banned for warned or anything like that, but if anyone could tell me what they don't like about Mr. Bitter, I'd be very interested in hearing what they have to say.

I'd like to say congrats to Ben. As someone who dreams of casting SC2, it's good to see someone "making it".
TexaS
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 26 2011 05:47 GMT
#224
Well deserved, best of luck MrBitter!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 05:59:59
July 26 2011 05:57 GMT
#225
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
July 26 2011 05:57 GMT
#226
Don't think DeMuslim was in it fully either. He's also got a semi decent chance of playing the game better than Bitter. I hope Bitter plays all races now so we won't have a smooth talking idrA on TV. The last thing we want is constant whine. But his flow is awesome and if he touches it up with insights, I think we have a great caster in the making. Look at what happened with Gretorp, no reason why Bitter can't one up that.
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
July 26 2011 05:59 GMT
#227
congrats mrbitter. he's really insightful and informative and is good with words. i don't think the bias criticism has any merit. he's not biased because he thinks "zerg sux nerf toss and terran." he's biased in the sense that he has more information to relay about the zerg since he plays zerg himself. and that's totally fine.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
July 26 2011 08:37 GMT
#228
Mr. Bitter is such a good guy. Lovely to the bones, smart and handsome!
s031720
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden383 Posts
July 26 2011 09:34 GMT
#229
I think MrBitter is a great commentator so I dont reallly get the flametalk here. I guess once the ball gets rolling, whiners and flamers will just tag along. Its a shame. MrBitter would be an asset as a commentator to any league or tournament.
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Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 09:37:00
July 26 2011 09:36 GMT
#230
Congratz to Mr.Bitter but meh I really dislike his casting but seems many tournies seem to be picking him up guess i'll have to get used to it.
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
July 26 2011 09:39 GMT
#231
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)


I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.
CrashNburn
Profile Joined February 2011
United States4 Posts
July 26 2011 10:09 GMT
#232
Good on him! Bitter has really gone out of his way to help improve and enrich the SC2 community.
iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
July 26 2011 10:23 GMT
#233
On July 26 2011 06:28 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote:
Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL?


I'm moving to Germany!


Nice! I wanna hug him and thank for 12 weeks with the pros and all his other stuff he is working on/with!
Do you wanna give us any infos in which city you are moving?

Super exited in whats coming to ESL! Never watched ESl besides HSC but i will definatly look forward to that.
Carsto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany72 Posts
July 26 2011 10:54 GMT
#234
MrBitter is in my opinion a pretty good addition to the ESL-casting staff. I really enjoy his recents online casts and his 12 weeks with the pros project, so that I'm really looking forward to this first cast in his new "home". He is a much better choice for an commentator as for example Take who isn't able to cast games in a proper way (that's at least my point of view).
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JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 11:18:55
July 26 2011 11:18 GMT
#235
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there
why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one.
I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up

who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually.
it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so)
so who else could esl have picked up?

also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game.
btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
July 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#236
On July 26 2011 18:39 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)


I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.



I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once.

And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Graupe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany178 Posts
July 26 2011 12:06 GMT
#237
yea welcome to germany dude! pretty huge step to move from the US to germany, so best of luck for a great and long carreer in germany!


Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style.


And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can!

HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff.


Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter!
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 26 2011 12:07 GMT
#238
Congratulations MrBitter!
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JustAGame
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany161 Posts
July 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#239
On July 26 2011 20:18 JayJay_90 wrote:
who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually.
it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so)
so who else could esl have picked up?

also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game.
btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D


I only saw MrBitter casting at NASL. It felt like he was not favoring a race, but some players, he always tried to make positive comments about those players, which resulted in a lot of wrong comments, like watching queens with 150 energy and telling "This guy got decent macro" or watching how a player is spamming APM with the comment "He is doing so much, look at his APM", while it was obvious, that the player did nothing but spamming APM at that moment.
I think MrBitter is overrated and his overall game knowledge seems to be average at best.

However, thinking about day[9], who forces me to adjust my sound volume 10 times per minute because he starts shouting way too loud when ever something happens, and who overanalyzes every single game (which already ruined some matches at MLG)... i still prefer MrBitter.

The main problem on casting is: No matter what you do, you will always be disliked by a lot of players. By saying "The game is balanced" you will get the same amount of haters as you will get from favoring a specific race.
After all, we cannot clone Tastosis , so MrBitter is not the worst choice.
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
July 26 2011 12:15 GMT
#240
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote:
congratz to him

the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?


Haha..
You zerg player? From U.S? Ahh.. Idra....wait wai u lafing? Are you no professional?

I liked bitters casting during the NASL, so this should be quite cool, and rotti is a nice caster aswell, hopefully this will allow him to catch his breath while casting esl
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 12:35:41
July 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#241
On July 26 2011 21:00 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 18:39 karpo wrote:
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)


I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race.



I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once.

And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators.


Agree to disagree i guess. But the standard setup is a play-by-play guy and one specialist with deep knowledge of all races. Not one guy being very race specific and another one covering the other two races.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 26 2011 12:37 GMT
#242
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)


I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc.

He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This
might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself!

Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15324 Posts
July 26 2011 12:38 GMT
#243
Congrats and welcome! You'll have an awesome time here!
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
July 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#244
On July 26 2011 21:37 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)


I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc.

He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This
might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself!

Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid.


The logic that he uses his experience from playing Zerg on a competitive level to back his casting, which doesn't make him biased? Yeah, moronic.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 13:02:06
July 26 2011 13:01 GMT
#245
I've always enjoyed Mr Bitters work. From near the start of the phenomenon that is SC2 it's seemed just that for him, work. Constantly educating, training, and asking questions of the pros in order to increase his understanding of the game, but mostly Zerg. Which brings me to my next point, as a Zerg I am biased (gasp) towards Mr. Bitter and am happy to see it, and his effort, rewarded. As for his biased I enjoy that too, because to me it's mostly tongue in cheek humor in a sea full of anger on both sides of the debate that is Zerg balance.

So yeah. Congrats dude, keep being so damn happy smiley all the time, it's refreshing.
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
July 26 2011 13:12 GMT
#246
I'd rather have a Master league Zerg than a Platinum league random. Also, it appears to me that he is eager to learn the other races and takes feedback quite seriously. I like his calmness in 12 weeks with the pros, but I didn't watch it too much to say more.

Btw, he will probably cast IEM? Since ESL has two international casters now, will they still fly in Day[9] for bigger events?
FLu
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany147 Posts
July 26 2011 13:13 GMT
#247
On July 26 2011 21:06 Graupe wrote:
yea welcome to germany dude! pretty huge step to move from the US to germany, so best of luck for a great and long carreer in germany!


Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style.


And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can!

HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff.


Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter!


So unnecessary to hate in this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with MrBitter moving to Germany.
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
July 26 2011 13:15 GMT
#248
RotterdaM and MrBitter... haha oh wow it's going to be amazing
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 13:19:27
July 26 2011 13:18 GMT
#249
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote:
Grats to Mr. Bitter.

And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!"

He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something.

Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good.

People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO.

Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary?

Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though)

Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well).
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wtfstarcraf
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
July 26 2011 13:21 GMT
#250
good job
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
July 26 2011 13:23 GMT
#251
I liked his casting on NASL and I didn't feel any major bias issues that people seem to be bringing up here. I liked his analytical casting style so I think he'd work very well at ESL's studio.

Best of luck to him.
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GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
July 26 2011 13:25 GMT
#252
haha kind makes me mad that this guy wanted to join the clan that i had started and i never messaged him back or anything. Haha hes getting so successful in the esports world now. Gl to Flabulous!
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Aldin_D2x
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada55 Posts
July 26 2011 13:43 GMT
#253
Congrats Ben - I'm super stoked about this for you. I hope the experience doesn't end up Bitter ...haha lame joke is lame

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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 13:55:56
July 26 2011 13:55 GMT
#254
great

rotti and him will be a great duo
will be even more interesting to watch for masters players because most likely he will be very anlytical and bring some more knowledge to the table

wouldve been so great if he and day9 would cast gamescom sadly its not looking like it is going to be that way
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Semtext
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 15:00:02
July 26 2011 14:59 GMT
#255
hm, i see terran bashing incoming when zerg(mr.bitter) and toss(rotterdam) players cast together. but bitter did a great job at nasl in my opinion, so i'm looking forward to him having another shot at it!
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 26 2011 15:12 GMT
#256
On July 26 2011 23:59 Semtext wrote:
hm, i see terran bashing incoming when zerg(mr.bitter) and toss(rotterdam) players cast together. but bitter did a great job at nasl in my opinion, so i'm looking forward to him having another shot at it!

they'll probably be bashing each other, since rotterdam often comments on how OP zerg is.
Blacklizard
Profile Joined May 2007
United States1194 Posts
July 26 2011 15:35 GMT
#257
Bitter kicks butt.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 26 2011 15:46 GMT
#258
I do think MrBitter gives a slight Z bias in his casting but that's to be expected. I'd much prefer a caster like MrBitter who can actually give strategic insight over some silly shoutcasting ^^
:)
Mentor
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany219 Posts
July 26 2011 15:56 GMT
#259
Welcome to the country of good beers and unfriendly people, man!
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Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 16:10:07
July 26 2011 16:09 GMT
#260
On July 26 2011 22:18 Djagulingu wrote:

Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well).


That's maybe because neither Hack nor Hwangsin are zergs?

And comparing MrBitter to someone like Idra commentating is ridicolous, he's not on the level of pros like Idra, Ret, Morrow etc. He's more like a Rotti or Wolf, aka someone that plays and understands the game on a decent level but a step or two under the pros.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
July 26 2011 16:11 GMT
#261
gj MrBitter i like ur interviews and such. This will be interesting.
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Cheekzz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States15 Posts
July 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#262
Congrats to Bitter!!! He is always entertaining. I enjoyed his casting the few times he appeared on NASL, and I look forward to hearing him cast at ESL. I'm sure he'll have a good time too.
“Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
Dice.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States78 Posts
July 26 2011 17:26 GMT
#263
Congrats to Mr. Bitter, he deserves it.

IMHO, it seems like Mr. Bitter is a little full of himself. Not saying it's a bad thing... but... Does anyone else see this?
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ManOnBoy
Profile Joined December 2010
37 Posts
July 26 2011 17:27 GMT
#264
If he is moving to germany, does this mean his GF is now single?

Watch out day9.. Its me vs you.
dumplings
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany298 Posts
July 26 2011 18:57 GMT
#265
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote:
congratz to him

the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?




Congratulation and good luck!

Please don't leave! The drones need you! They're looking up to you!
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 19:02:27
July 26 2011 19:00 GMT
#266
He's a good casters but I dislike his zerg bias. Still, he's got great analytical skill so I'm sure it will work out fine.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
Kaniwani
Profile Joined April 2011
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 19:42:14
July 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#267
I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
July 26 2011 19:20 GMT
#268
Glad to see him get rewarded after all the effort and money he's spent
Kaniwani
Profile Joined April 2011
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 19:35:46
July 26 2011 19:22 GMT
#269
On July 27 2011 02:27 ManOnBoy wrote:
If he is moving to germany, does this mean his GF is now single?

Watch out day9.. Its me vs you.


She will be going with him. He needs all the support he can get. Besides...who wouldn't want to travel around the world and play video games? =D
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 26 2011 21:13 GMT
#270
Yea MrBitter! YO ROCK!
Spohlol
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden4 Posts
July 26 2011 22:20 GMT
#271
Most boring and square caster to watch/listen to, dont see why anyone would pick him for anything. Casters like Totalbiscuit or even IGNs caster is way better and they're still not even close on par with Day9,D.apollo,Djwheat or tastosis.

Maybe im just used to BiS casters but meh whenever i see his stream i just feel like "uhh who would wanna watch that?"
Sheth, Sjow, Naniwa, Destiny, Orb HWAITING!
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
July 27 2011 00:07 GMT
#272
is he gonna replace rotterdam? sure hope so
good news anyhow
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
July 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#273
On July 27 2011 09:07 alepov wrote:
is he gonna replace rotterdam? sure hope so
good news anyhow

nope, they're gonna cast together
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#274
I dont understand why this guy is popular. I cannot stand his casting and I am not even that picky on casters.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 27 2011 01:35 GMT
#275
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote:
I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.

Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
MooSys
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden38 Posts
July 27 2011 02:15 GMT
#276
If you want to read an deep new interview with Mr.Bitter go here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248091
U create your own luck!
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
July 27 2011 02:59 GMT
#277
On July 27 2011 10:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote:
I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.

Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.


i prefer hearing him instead of alleged "unbiased" casters that have no clue about the game at all
fantasysan
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany41 Posts
July 27 2011 07:44 GMT
#278
oh god.. esl is going down down.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 27 2011 08:26 GMT
#279
Im very glad for MrBitter making it so far from nothing. He has done a lot to help the community already and I really enjoy his commentating. Very calm and nice voice, and he has a cool dialect.

Going to be fun to have a Zerg to cast longside famous Zerg-hater Rotti! :D So much bias towards Zerg in his casts haha. Great fun.

Happy for you MrBitter! Good luck with everything! Guess that means I will face MrBitter on the ladder now haha :D Awesome.
@Munck
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 27 2011 08:26 GMT
#280
This is GREAT news! ESL-TV finally gets a caster with in-depth zerg knowledge.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 08:36:27
July 27 2011 08:33 GMT
#281
On July 27 2011 10:34 Apollo_Shards wrote:
I dont understand why this guy is popular. I cannot stand his casting and I am not even that picky on casters.
Sounds to me like you are quite picky on casters.

On July 27 2011 10:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote:
I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance.

Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast.
... because phenomenal caster grow on trees.

He has done so much already for the community. Yesterday I watched his stream where he presented some new community maps. Now he will move to a foreign country to be able to do even more for the communuty. His masterpiece so far is of course the 12 weeks with the pros series. What have you done so far for the community?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
SlaverR
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany87 Posts
July 27 2011 10:07 GMT
#282
I like what he does for the community, but i dont think he is a good caster. Since i watch alot of ESL stuff im not that happy about these news. But maybe he can step up his skills and prove me wrong!
sleeping is the cousin of death
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
July 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#283
I think that people should give him more of a chance before they start crying and complaining.

If you are so upset about the casting, let's see you do it.

Also since he is casting at MLG Anaheim, it will be a good opportunity to see how he does and then judge him.

[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 14:10:19
July 27 2011 13:07 GMT
#284
On July 27 2011 19:07 SlaverR wrote:
I like what he does for the community, but i dont think he is a good caster. Since i watch alot of ESL stuff im not that happy about these news. But maybe he can step up his skills and prove me wrong!
May be he is happy with the feedback from most guys and don't really want to prove you wrong.

For example, I personally cannot stand a Husky cast. If feels like my ears begin to bleed. I could give a lot of detailed reasons what I don't like about his casts, but I am still happy that he is successful. He attracts a lot of guys into the scene. That is great. He should not change a bit, just to make me happy. I can watch an HD cast instead.

On ESL-TV, I miss strategical depth in Take's casts. He still brings the energy into the commentary. Rotterdam, while able to do analytic casts, leans too much towards Protoss for my taste. Mr. Bitter now can even the field with bringing the zerg's point of view into the casting.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Tundra
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom18 Posts
July 27 2011 13:38 GMT
#285
Give the guy a break christ, all these people saying "awww no, oh god no " Don't watch him then? hes come along alot recently and the fact hes casting MLG ASWELL as gaining this casting position means he is a GOOD caster, he may not be the best, but he has to start somewhere and this is where.

Congrats.
Futura
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 14:10:26
July 27 2011 14:09 GMT
#286
Congratulations to Mr. Bitter. I'm watching his stream very often and i like it a lot. Especially his knowledge about zerg is excellent.
InsaneIVI
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria7 Posts
July 27 2011 15:17 GMT
#287
Congrats Bitter - wooooooooooooooooot

biggest fan i am

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
[!n$@ne]';'IVI
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
July 27 2011 17:05 GMT
#288
Well, I did what I usually do and confused Mr. Bitter and TotalBiscuit (don't ask me why, I always make this mistake).

I can't say that I have listened to him before, but maybe now I will, since I do watch the ESLtv reasonably often.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
July 27 2011 18:25 GMT
#289
its just awesome, bitter if i meet you in cologne ill pay you a beer :D
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 18:28:19
July 27 2011 18:27 GMT
#290
MrBitter is ok but he is often too biased towards zerg and i dont like that
but other than that he has a nice voice and good casting abilities
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#291
Look at my sig, it displays the awesomeness of this move. I think him and Rotti will get along great.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#292
ugh, I don't like his casting, but congratulations anyways!
banelings
Starion
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
July 28 2011 00:12 GMT
#293
I've never heard of the ESL before *gets booted from the TL table* but if it's good for Mr. B, then I'm glad for him. ♥ GJ ben!
Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you a cover up. Real boats rock.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
July 28 2011 00:54 GMT
#294
Congrats! You deserves it, man
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
hotblackdesiato
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada74 Posts
July 28 2011 02:53 GMT
#295
I don't think Mr. Bitter is a perfect caster by any means but he does have excellent game knowledge. Given the amount of high level casting he will be doing now with MLG/ESL he will only improve and I expect great things from him in the future.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
July 28 2011 03:43 GMT
#296
After watching Kings of Tin with Bitter on, I'm convinced he will be an excellent caster once he loosens up a little bit and just gets into it. Cheers
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
July 29 2011 13:40 GMT
#297
congrats mr.bitter respect for this guy who has done soo much for the community!!
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 04:50:05
July 31 2011 04:49 GMT
#298
ooops, delete this please :/
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
July 31 2011 04:53 GMT
#299
Pretty sure that after this MLG no one could dislike Mr bitter being the new caster.

He's got some of the best analytical casting outside of korea, absolutely fantastic hearing him go into strategy intricacies, especially because most of the time he's right!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 31 2011 04:54 GMT
#300
Yep, he's done well at MLG, have enjoyed his casting
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 31 2011 04:58 GMT
#301
Grats to mr. bitter. He's really been unbiased this MLG. Love it!
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
July 31 2011 05:19 GMT
#302
Loved Bitter at MLG, only problem is that he stutters a lot
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirmonkeh Zerg Live Casts and Commentary!
jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
July 31 2011 05:22 GMT
#303
bitter doing a great job at MLG with husky, he seems a bit foreigner bias but not as bad as day9
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
July 31 2011 05:22 GMT
#304
I've really enjoyed his casting in MLG these past couple days.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 05:24:18
July 31 2011 05:23 GMT
#305
Great news for ESL, Bitter (and Husky) has done great in MLG.
Bartundar
UnknownReclaimer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
July 31 2011 05:29 GMT
#306
On July 26 2011 03:44 namedplayer wrote:
I don't like him. I won't watch ESL anyway


I don't really understand what anyone can have against him. He's contributed a TON to the community. And if I had to guess he has probably only broken even on what he's spent just on his
"12 Weeks With The Pros," if that.

Congrats MrBitter! Love your casting personally, and I love what you do for the community. I hope more good fortune like this continues for you!
"And when he pops out.. WE SHIT ON HIM! HAHAHAHA!" - Geoff Robinson
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
July 31 2011 06:12 GMT
#307
I really enjoy Mrbitter'scasting
if you can believe you can concieve
Stil
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
July 31 2011 07:41 GMT
#308
So excited for you mr Bitter <3 Can't wait to see you from Germany
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
July 31 2011 07:56 GMT
#309
I really like Mr. Bitter's actual casting and I love his voice but I feel like he is very Zerg biased. Even when I'm watching him at MLG the way he looks/talks about T/PvZ pushes he makes it seem like it's going to be impossible to hold and then when they hold easily he's like OMG this guy is the best zerg player ever!!! But he never does that with T/P defending vZ. If he got his bias fixed he'd be high on my list for favourite casters, but I don't like listening to him now because I've heard enough Zerg QQ since the start of the Beta.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Vandeam
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway28 Posts
August 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#310
I personally think that mr bitter is a terrible caster. Not a big fan of husky either, however husky did quite well during mlg. Mr bitter was just annoying all the time.
warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
August 19 2011 16:23 GMT
#311
You are officially my favourite caster :D. Totally love your voice and you have awesome synergy with rotterdam!
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
August 19 2011 16:25 GMT
#312
mr bitter is ok. he definitely excels at zerg know well above terran and toss, but there could be worse casters.
jakek95
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom351 Posts
August 19 2011 16:27 GMT
#313
At first i was critical of how well he would fit in with Rotter but i must say they've become quite a awesome casting archon! Keep up the good work
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
August 19 2011 16:28 GMT
#314
Congratz man! I enjoy your casting so far, I hope it works out for you!
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
August 19 2011 16:29 GMT
#315
nice. i like his casting, he partners up well with rotterdam(who speaks waaay too fast sometimes for me to understand his accent at all times) too
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