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m0s1n0
Germany575 Posts
![[image loading]](http://static.dota-league.com/gfx/news/Fragster.png) MrBitter ist the one to get the new ESL TV caster. Before the official announcement the Vice President of Gaming David 'Affentod' Hiltscher posted on twitter that the ESL is gonna make a 'bitter' announcement in the next minutes. Tweet by Affentod: We have a very #bitter news announcement coming up soon. Edit: Proofed by ESL. Youtube-Video Source 
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet? | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
Will never watch it though, probably.  | ||
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
gl hf Bitter. =) Edit: tweets in question http://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/95554698899234816 http://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/93963475495297024 | ||
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trNimitz
204 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no... +1 User was banned for this post. | ||
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Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
GG Ben! | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no... im signing this one i hope day9 keeps casting IEM... User was warned for this post | ||
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ilikeLIONZ
Germany427 Posts
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namedplayer
844 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
If it is true and he will cast with Rotti, i will just PvZ cause they will both be a bit biased ^.^ | ||
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Hirnfrost
Germany938 Posts
gratz to him | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:43 TRAP[yoo] wrote: i hope day9 keeps casting IEM... Day9 is not casting gamescom, so yeah, odds are him+rotterdam will cover upcoming IEM. Congrats to mrbitter, good show. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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YerknYass
United States33 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
To me he's always seemed like a guy who wants to come off as someone who is so deeply knowledgeable about the game - but just isn't. My main problem is his "I've got it all figured out" approach really. | ||
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Glowbox
Netherlands330 Posts
Can't wait to hear Rotti and Bitter cast. | ||
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ckye
Germany206 Posts
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Gatored
United States679 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:48 Gatored wrote: Needs to work on his bias towards zerg in his casting. Be a little more fair to the other races and maybe I would like his casting more.. Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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ApBuLLet
United States604 Posts
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phos4
Germany226 Posts
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rfoster
United States1005 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:50 Arcanne wrote: Agreed. He does a good job explaining the zerg's perspective from the casts I've seen. Hopefully he improves on that. I think you guys should check out this Caster his style is really up and coming | ||
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PeZuY
935 Posts
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Drunken.Jedi
Germany446 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?  Congrats to Mr.Bitter. While he isn't quite on the level of the greatest analytical casters such as Artosis or Day9, he's still very good, so I'm looking forward to his casting. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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gladheateher1337
164 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:54 gogatorsfoster wrote: What exactly is ESL? Does this mean Bitter will be moving to Europe? Never the less I really like his casting style, and he never says anything that makes me turn off the volume. I think you guys should check out this Caster his style is really up and coming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDGf1G6mxQ&feature=player_embedded ESL is the Electronic Sports League and its an eSports-Company located in Cologne/Germany He will work for ESL TV and im pretty sure he will move to cologne and will cast with rotterdam. Mr.Bitter has a LOT of potential.hes a nice,friendly and smart guy who doesnt overract when a single pylon goes down. I like him and im wishing him all the best | ||
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gwixter
Slovakia336 Posts
now ESL pls get rid of rotterdam and I will finally be able to enjoy IEM fully | ||
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LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
Good luck in your future endeavours | ||
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pulperi
Finland87 Posts
Mr. Bitterdam? | ||
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cameronkrazie86
United States296 Posts
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
This is probably the best full time caster ESL could get! | ||
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Zechs
United Kingdom321 Posts
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
I'll be watching! | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no... User was temp banned for this post. haven't some people got it yet? anyway, good for MrBitter ,ore things you do is better for the community | ||
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Ezze
Canada934 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:16 Xiron wrote: Great for him as a career man. Great for ESL getting some fresh blood. Sad for me, since I really thought of him as a motivated and serious gamer and not as a caster. But oh well, congratz to him ! Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:17 Ezze wrote: I really don't understand all the hate towards MrBitter. He is definitely top 3 in the best casters in the world. He is never biased. Has a great and exciting voice that is never annoying. Never repeats the same thing over and over like those other inferior casters. Great call by ESL to hire him! Have we listened to the same MrBitter? | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7968 Posts
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Uracil
Germany422 Posts
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Kerm
France467 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
I think he's a really good caster. | ||
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
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sh4w
United States713 Posts
He's put a lot of work in, I'm glad it paid off at least a little bit. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
Good casting voice | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Glad he'll be applying to educate players and entertain instead of in his fingers! Good career choice! | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
It's good to see more solid ESL expansion, good luck! | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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morbvs
Germany358 Posts
Also ESL TV is building a new Studio at the moment afaik. So it seems like they are really putting some effort into improving their program/casts :-) | ||
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wattabeast
United States957 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:18 MrBitter wrote: Don't be too sad. There are some other super-secret things in the works that should make you turn that frown upside down. Congrats on getting the ESL job, you'll do great  I think you're still a great player and you use that skill to become a type 2player and caster :p | ||
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Shorty90
Germany154 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Azuroz
Sweden1630 Posts
Also nice for rotterdam to finally have a co-caster, he always looks so lonely on sundays :> | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:24 Torte de Lini wrote: I prefer Bitter as a caster than player to be honest. His caliber of play isn't up to par to the extensive knowledge he knows. Glad he'll be applying to educate players and entertain instead of in his fingers! Good career choice! That's his appeal to me, his zerg struggles on ladder feel so familiar to me! I also think I'd prefer him as a solo caster as soon as he learns PvP, TvT and PvT. He never runs outta stuff to expound on. Congrats on the new gig, Glück! | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
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vahgar.r24
India465 Posts
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
I think he is very proffesional and intelligent. He has a lot of knowledge of the game to not make silly mistakes and also can be pretty entertaining. I hope casters will be more like him, coz i think Mr.Bitter is overall the best commentator! Wish you the best Mr.Bitter! | ||
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Cyberus
Germany148 Posts
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
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Jtn
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dubRa
2165 Posts
Hope day9 will still cast co-cast the IEM world finals at least. <3 | ||
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Veclada
742 Posts
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
Anyway, GJ MrBitter and Im happy to see that all his work towards the community is finally payign off for him | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
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zturchan
Canada156 Posts
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1nfamous
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ManOnBoy
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
Very, very annoying....I hope he changes. Analytical casters are rare. | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
Though I am sure he already is working on improving his casting, looking forward to this. | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
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Alexl
288 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
With 12 Weeks alone he has put a tremendous time into understanding the game, and is very well articulated to properly present that knowledge in his castings. Sure it is my personal preference, but I find both his voice as well as rhetoric pleasing to hear. He is one of the few that can easily switch between play-by-play and colour. The alleged "horrible" zerg bias, I have yet to find, even as a random player myself. Most of the times he does call game or point out difficult or near-impossible situations, which are just that- very difficult for one side to overcome. It is much less bias, but brutal truth. As much as I don't care about Tastosis' similar tendency to throw the towel on either side. It makes it even more exciting when the player is actually able to pull through things. Can he improve greatly on his overall knowledge? Sure, but who can't. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
Rotterdam is Protoss biased. MrBitter is Zerg biased. I like. | ||
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Scereye
Austria154 Posts
Great acting by Rotterdam btw. | ||
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Pred8oar
Germany281 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On July 26 2011 05:07 Scereye wrote: Officially confirmed! :D + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvRQUvs9ls Great acting by Rotterdam btw. nice video. thanks mate | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/f8FDv.png) You fucking rule, man. I'll be watching every ESL event! | ||
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Markionium
Netherlands33 Posts
Grats mrbitter and looking forward to the content :D | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Crumpet
United States137 Posts
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Dont-Panic
Germany567 Posts
<3 Mr Bitter! | ||
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Espelz
Germany818 Posts
On July 26 2011 05:19 Crumpet wrote: Mr.Bitter is seriously one of the coolest guys in esports and a great caster to boot. Congrats to him. I´ll just quote you, because well... I couldn´t say it better Really looking forward to this ! | ||
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MrNuby
Sweden40 Posts
GLHF Bitter | ||
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marxgarza
United States373 Posts
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Stocc
Germany25 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvRQUvs9ls | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
he's very biased towards zerg. I hope with this he gets more practice and fixes that one flaw that makes me not like him much. best of luck at ESL <3 | ||
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VeganWrath
United States17 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11046 Posts
I hope he takes this sort of criticism somewhat seriously. | ||
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Baeras
United States140 Posts
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
I am sure MLG Anaheim will get MrBitter some converts, and there's going to be much more bitterness to follow! | ||
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LeFroMaGe
United States628 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no... User was temp banned for this post. While I agree with this post, I'll put it in better words, I wish him the best, and by that I mean I hope he improves his casting. | ||
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JohnnyYen
United States313 Posts
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
Altough I hope he tunes his Zerg bias down a bit Good luck and have fun in Germany!  | ||
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
Mr. Bitter did so much Stuff just because he loved it. He deserves a Job in eSports. Maybe all you Haters start doing something for the whole community before hating on him... | ||
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
But congrats to the job. | ||
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Ramuh
Germany238 Posts
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Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
I'm made up for you Ben, the drive, desire and commitment coupled with your steely determination and passionate work ethic has led to this opportunity. All the best for the future - you rock Sir. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed ) | ||
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PeaNuT_T
Sweden326 Posts
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
Love his coaching stream too, very insightful | ||
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PWNTAR
United States53 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 Influ wrote: omg, please no... User was temp banned for this post. May I ask why they are getting warned and banned? EDIT: NVM, just read the top note. Agree completely with the decision taken. I also agree that this is a terrible move, but that is due to me disliking Mr.Bitter since I consider him one of the most biased casters at the moment just like some people dislike Husky for supposedly being unprofessional. I sincerely wish MR.Bitter the best of luck on this new job even though I do not like his casting. | ||
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phanto
Sweden708 Posts
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Looking forward to his casting : ). | ||
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iRon aka bananajuice
Germany124 Posts
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xbankx
703 Posts
I still remember a game he casted with TLO with toss vs terran. Toss was going zealot, archon, and some sentries. He kept asking TLO "this composition is unstoppable. This composition is hard to stop. What do you do against it?" TLO was like "add ghost and better map positioning". He was like "no not gonna work. this composition is too strong." Like he knows more than TLO in TvP.... He also uses a lot absolute terms which is very annoy to hear. However his voice and his knowledge is clearly there. If he can change his bias toward zerg then its fine. Like artosis and day9 both favor players and styles rather than race which makes them some of the best anayltical casters in the world. The guy is likable tho and does a lot for the community so I am happy for him in that regard. | ||
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Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
On July 26 2011 05:52 CoR wrote: is he good ? never heared of him can anyone give me some collection of vods of him ? then i can make an oppinion (seeing vod i not like his voice as much as some others but i am willing to get impressed )You can check his 12 Weeks with the pros at www.evolutioncomplete.com. He also cast in NASL S1, vods on their web: www.nasl.tv. | ||
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Big news! Greatly looking forward to some Rotti + MrBitter love. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
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Azuroz
Sweden1630 Posts
On July 26 2011 06:03 Aphasie wrote: Gratz to Bitter. I hope that both he and the ESL does well. I dont know if im gonna watch it tho... while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups. edit: nice ninjaedit on the quote to make it look better >.<, oh well ill let my post stay as it is. | ||
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DeflowSC2
Sweden76 Posts
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trancey
United States430 Posts
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
Seriously? Isn't it normal to hate having a new major caster who is terrible as a caster and who is totally race biaised? "If you are going to express your opinion, it better be articulated well. Shit posting will result in immediate bans - no warnings. Be safe, not sorry." So people showing their support with only "great" or "nice" will be warned too I hope? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5244 Posts
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
Will be quite interesting to see at least, the P v Z debates that will undoubtedly arise, I will watch it for sure though, even if it was just because I love Rotti's casting, but I have faith in Mr. B as well. Good luck to everyone involved! On July 26 2011 06:06 Azuroz wrote: while i get the point that you are trying to make, i believe the point of them hiring a second english caster is to promote esltv for english speaking viewers, esltv has mainly focused around a german audience previously. Also the english go4sc2 stream with rotterdam usually gets more viewers than pretty much all other weekly cups. | ||
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ZergFarm
Germany62 Posts
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butch
Belgium684 Posts
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HEROwithNOlegacy
United States850 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:44 Arcanne wrote: Have to agree, not only is he incredibly biased but his insight on the game is based off his own experience which is normal but he makes it sound 10000x harder for zerg and it becomes a depressing cast from the get go. Good luck to ESL though.not a fan of his casting tbh -_- | ||
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Mr.Brightside
Australia317 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
Oh this is going to be good. | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On July 26 2011 05:57 phanto wrote: Congrats to Mr Bitter. IEM will probably be the first time I'll see him cast, will be interesting to see how he does No, it won't be | ||
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote: I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting! This pretty much covered up everything I was thinking right now, great post! | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On July 26 2011 06:24 Advocado wrote: Congratulations Mr. Bitter I liked your casts at the NASL. Wont it be a bit a weird with the timezones though or will he only be maintaining the US ESL? I'm moving to Germany! | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
are you gonna move in with rotterdam? i think he has a free romm since demuslim left to the states :D anyways, best of luck to you! cologne can be a really really great city. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Just for ESL? Wow! | ||
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sTb
Germany85 Posts
Looking forward to see their stuff. | ||
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RuN
Brazil234 Posts
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
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Zislu
Sweden17 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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cnas
Sweden640 Posts
Rottie and mrBitter would indeed be an awesome duo (MrBitterdam?) | ||
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet? omg lol :D let's hope not xD | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
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CoMMoDuS
Germany507 Posts
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ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
Hope you'll like it here in Germany. And you're really biased toward SC2 Maybe we'll be hearing more about it on Kings of Tin later? Already looking forward to it | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
(lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums) I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly. I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game. I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be. and also: No. Not just for ESL. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
Will be an interesting team to watch in the start. Grats all involved. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums) I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly. I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game. I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be. and also: No. Not just for ESL. When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you cast | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
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Toxi78
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On July 26 2011 07:04 Nerchio wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums) I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly. I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game. I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be. and also: No. Not just for ESL. When i listened to you stream & commentate i didn't see any bias. Maybe it comes out as bias but it is probably the case that you got bigger knowledge about zerg than about other races. i look forward to seeing you castwhen nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well. guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too? | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
On July 26 2011 07:08 Toxi78 wrote: when nerchio is being nice to you, you know you're doing well. guess mrbitter is going to play the EPS germany too? Would love to know what this other thing is. But esl is pretty big in europe espacially in germany. I hope you're gonna try play the eps! | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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evilduky666
United States101 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
MrBitter has the best sounding voice ever, plus exlcuding tastosis he's one of the best analytical casters there is. | ||
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Vinski
505 Posts
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CidO
United States695 Posts
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StreetHeat
United States225 Posts
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Motion
Germany183 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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quen
201 Posts
I'm sure you'll do just fine! | ||
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Pingoo
France48 Posts
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volen
Germany28 Posts
gogo Mr.Bitter and good luck...may come and visit you guys in the future..once you get over here | ||
Liquid`HayprO
Iraq1230 Posts
On July 26 2011 07:15 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Philo
United States337 Posts
Wish Mr.B does some more of those With the Pros shows in his offtime though. | ||
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Pessle
United Kingdom37 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 26 2011 06:58 MrBitter wrote: I think its worth addressing the haters and the critics real quick: (lol, now I know why most players and casters don't read forums) I just want to say that the feedback from you guys is what I focus on most. This is a big opportunity for me, and, obviously, I want to be the very best caster possible. If you guys don't want to watch when I'm working, then I'm not doing my job correctly. I promise you all that I'm spending the vast majority of my free time working on furthering my understanding of the non-Zerg matchups, researching players and play styles, and working to curb whatever bias I may or may not have for the coolest race in the game. I'm honestly so excited to get to do this, and I'm really looking forward to hearing more feedback from everybody so that I can continue to make myself the best caster that I can be. and also: No. Not just for ESL. Fun times :D can't wait for it~ | ||
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R3m3mb3rM3
Germany954 Posts
why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up | ||
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:02 gwixter wrote: great news! congratz! now ESL pls get rid of rotterdam and I will finally be able to enjoy IEM fully Huh? Rottie is alot better than most other "famous" casters. And he is top Masters so its not like he doesnt know the game. Gtfo if you cant even give a reason. | ||
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FLu
Germany147 Posts
From streaming Zerg lessons on ustream, to moving to Germany to cast with ESL. You really had quite a run. I hope everything goes well and I hope you'll enjoy Germany | ||
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Orsm
Germany16 Posts
I wish you best of luck in germany (are you moving to Cologne?). Maybe i'll run into you at gamescom ;> | ||
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weaknurse
Australia320 Posts
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Stallion
New Zealand67 Posts
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Stijx
United States804 Posts
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
Congratulations | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up in europe? like who? homerj? | ||
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
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SirRobin
United States269 Posts
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
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deathserv
United States228 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:47 YerknYass wrote: I am so mystified by the Mr. Bitter flaming O_O He is extremely analytical and sharp and while not explosive and witty, has a very firm, steadfast style that is based in a very intellectually curious understanding of the game. He has a dope accent and I like that he is gaining traction in the scene. Mr. Bitter Fighting! I agree fully. I cannot fathom why people think he is a bad caster. He analyzes the game very well, he speaks in measured tones, has good articulation, doesn't use crude language as a crutch, and so on. He sounds like a professional caster should. Congratulations to him! | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
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xorbot
United States27 Posts
Plus no more Emo Rotti! | ||
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eXwOn
Canada351 Posts
Annnnyyyywho best of luck! | ||
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Xaerkar
United States230 Posts
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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isM
United States735 Posts
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Kirb
Germany900 Posts
Mr.bitter s a great caster. | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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NexaS
United States202 Posts
I'd like to say congrats to Ben. As someone who dreams of casting SC2, it's good to see someone "making it". | ||
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Katowice25012 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!" He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something. Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good. People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO. Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary? Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though) | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
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Diglett
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TigerKarl
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Sweden383 Posts
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Canada920 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter. And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!" He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something. Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good. People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO. Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary? Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though) I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race. | ||
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CrashNburn
United States4 Posts
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iNViCiOUZ
Germany364 Posts
Nice! I wanna hug him and thank for 12 weeks with the pros and all his other stuff he is working on/with! Do you wanna give us any infos in which city you are moving? Super exited in whats coming to ESL! Never watched ESl besides HSC but i will definatly look forward to that. | ||
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Carsto
Germany72 Posts
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On July 26 2011 09:03 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: So many talented, good knowledge haveing casters out there why, why Mr Bitter is the chosen one. I mean i can listen to his casts (its a good thing ^^) but without a doubt there are many better casters which esl couldve picked up who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually. it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so) so who else could esl have picked up? also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game. btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On July 26 2011 18:39 karpo wrote: I've only seen the MLG showmatch between White-Ra and Ret and sure you're right to a extent. But he also whined quite a bit and argued alot with TLO about stuff being so bad for zerg and his cast was more or less totally focused on what Ret was doing, how good or bad it was for the zerg player instead of focusing equally on both players. From your portrait i guess you play zerg so you might not care, i have a hard time watching casts where the casting pov is very centered around one player/race. I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once. And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators. | ||
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Graupe
Germany178 Posts
Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style. And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can! HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff. Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter! | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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JustAGame
Germany161 Posts
On July 26 2011 20:18 JayJay_90 wrote: who do you have in mind? i can't think of anyone actually. it's not realistic that someone like tastosis or day9 would move to germany to cast for esltv (and i'm not even sure if i'd prefer day9 over mr. bitter, some day9 casting once in a while is great, but i don't think i wanna be told how AMAZING everything is 3 times a week or so) so who else could esl have picked up? also, welcome to germany and good luck to mr.bitter! i don't really know you that much yet, but that's surely gonna change and i'm excited to see you in action. although i enjoyed rotterdam's solocasting, having 2 casters is pretty much always better and i''m glad, esl picked someone who actually has good knowledge of the game. btw even if you're a bit zerg biased (i simply don't know), it's not that bad, since rotti is always whining about zerg. things may get pretty hillarious... :D I only saw MrBitter casting at NASL. It felt like he was not favoring a race, but some players, he always tried to make positive comments about those players, which resulted in a lot of wrong comments, like watching queens with 150 energy and telling "This guy got decent macro" or watching how a player is spamming APM with the comment "He is doing so much, look at his APM", while it was obvious, that the player did nothing but spamming APM at that moment. I think MrBitter is overrated and his overall game knowledge seems to be average at best. However, thinking about day[9], who forces me to adjust my sound volume 10 times per minute because he starts shouting way too loud when ever something happens, and who overanalyzes every single game (which already ruined some matches at MLG)... i still prefer MrBitter. The main problem on casting is: No matter what you do, you will always be disliked by a lot of players. By saying "The game is balanced" you will get the same amount of haters as you will get from favoring a specific race. After all, we cannot clone Tastosis , so MrBitter is not the worst choice. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet? Haha.. You zerg player? From U.S? Ahh.. Idra....wait wai u lafing? Are you no professional? I liked bitters casting during the NASL, so this should be quite cool, and rotti is a nice caster aswell, hopefully this will allow him to catch his breath while casting esl | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:00 Arisen wrote: I watched that, and I can't disagree more. I didn't hear him whine once. And yes, I play zerg, but that doesn't matter. Mr. Bitter isn't unique in what he brings to the casting table. HE brings his ingame experience just as any pro player does. Did you watch HSCIII? Tyler is very much the same in his casting to protoss as Mr. Bitter is in relation to zerg. They understand that race, of course you're going to hear more about that race from that player. THat's why there are two commentators. Agree to disagree i guess. But the standard setup is a play-by-play guy and one specialist with deep knowledge of all races. Not one guy being very race specific and another one covering the other two races. | ||
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Zorkmid
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On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter. And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!" He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something. Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good. People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO. Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary? Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though) I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc. He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself! Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid. | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:37 Zorkmid wrote: I don't think that MrBitter is biased either, but it's nothing to do with his being some great Zerg player (you just compared him to IdrA and Day[9] lol). I've seen games where he has said the Zerg is in a terrible position because of X when really they aren't etc. He just is used to playng the game from a zerg point of view, and so am I! This might be why I don't feel he is biased, because I may be biased myself! Anyways, I agree with you that Mr Bitter isn't really that biased. But the logic you use to try and convince TL of that is pretty stupid. The logic that he uses his experience from playing Zerg on a competitive level to back his casting, which doesn't make him biased? Yeah, moronic. | ||
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
So yeah. Congrats dude, keep being so damn happy smiley all the time, it's refreshing. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
Btw, he will probably cast IEM? Since ESL has two international casters now, will they still fly in Day[9] for bigger events? | ||
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FLu
Germany147 Posts
On July 26 2011 21:06 Graupe wrote: yea welcome to germany dude! pretty huge step to move from the US to germany, so best of luck for a great and long carreer in germany! Their might be the problem that Mr.Bitter isn't as known in germany or even europe compared to his status in the US, but nevertheless I guess he will convince everybody with his casting style. And also there's no alternative in europe. Name on if you can! HomerJ gotta be a joke, since he's obviously one of the worst casters ever. I guess he could be fun for guys who only speak german are very new to sc or sc2, but for someone who knows the game it's just terrible to see him missing like every drop and talking offtopic bs more than ingame-stuff. Anyways great pickup for both sides, again best of luck to you Mr.Bitter! So unnecessary to hate in this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with MrBitter moving to Germany. | ||
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busbarn
Sweden984 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On July 26 2011 14:57 Arisen wrote: Grats to Mr. Bitter. And to every person who thinks Bitter is a biased commentator, you're delusional. People hear him say things like "wow, this is such a bad situation for the zerg right now because of X", that doesn't mean, "wow, fuck that protoss or terran player for doing something imba versus zerg", it means "wow, I've played in this situation a lot and that zerg player is in trouble!" He's bringing a level of analysis to the game that we don't get to see as often as we should in pro commentating. We're used to hearing people give their neutered "this is what's happening" casting without ever bringing the game knowledge into the equation that gives depth to casting. When Mr. Bitter says "Wow, that was such a good play from zerg, his multitask versus Protoss is unreal" you know that means something. Did you ever listen to Day[9] cast Brood War games? He talked a ton about what the smart plays for Zerg were, or what he didn't like about what the Zerg was doing, because he played Zerg competitively at the highest levels for years, and he knew if the zerg was fucking up or doing something really good. People love hearing IdrA commentate, do you know why? Because he knows what the fuck he is talking about. When he sees something, he'll tell you what's going to happen because of it and it will be right. He knows, and people like to hear that. Do you think GARIMTO became a commenator and didn't share his game experience in his casts? Do you think OGN Hired Nal_Ra to give a neutered commentary and never give any depth to his Protoss analysis? FUCK NO. Stop thinking that just because a player brings some experience to the table, he's biased. Without people with real game knowledge commentating, the commentary becomes useless to all but the newest to the community. What do people expect him to cast like, fucking Chill's Neutral commentary? Had ot got that off my chest after seeing so many hate responses because he's "biased". Gl Mr. B and it will be great (hope you keep playing competitively though) Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well). | ||
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wtfstarcraf
United States6 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
Best of luck to him. | ||
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GMonster
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Aldin_D2x
Canada55 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
rotti and him will be a great duo will be even more interesting to watch for masters players because most likely he will be very anlytical and bring some more knowledge to the table wouldve been so great if he and day9 would cast gamescom sadly its not looking like it is going to be that way  | ||
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Semtext
Germany287 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 26 2011 23:59 Semtext wrote: hm, i see terran bashing incoming when zerg(mr.bitter) and toss(rotterdam) players cast together. but bitter did a great job at nasl in my opinion, so i'm looking forward to him having another shot at it! they'll probably be bashing each other, since rotterdam often comments on how OP zerg is. | ||
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Mentor
Germany219 Posts
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On July 26 2011 22:18 Djagulingu wrote: Well, his casting was really good and definitely not biased in TL open finals between Hack and HwangSin. Congratulations for MrBitter and I hope they both will form a good archon (DeMusliM and Rotti formed a nice archon, but I'm sure MrBitter will do quite well). That's maybe because neither Hack nor Hwangsin are zergs? And comparing MrBitter to someone like Idra commentating is ridicolous, he's not on the level of pros like Idra, Ret, Morrow etc. He's more like a Rotti or Wolf, aka someone that plays and understands the game on a decent level but a step or two under the pros. | ||
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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Cheekzz
United States15 Posts
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Dice.
United States78 Posts
IMHO, it seems like Mr. Bitter is a little full of himself. Not saying it's a bad thing... but... Does anyone else see this? | ||
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ManOnBoy
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Watch out day9.. Its me vs you. | ||
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dumplings
Germany298 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:39 turdburgler wrote: congratz to him the question is, does he know what carmac looks like yet?  Congratulation and good luck! | ||
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Sweden449 Posts
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Kaniwani
United States20 Posts
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PoopLord
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Kaniwani
United States20 Posts
On July 27 2011 02:27 ManOnBoy wrote: If he is moving to germany, does this mean his GF is now single? Watch out day9.. Its me vs you. She will be going with him. He needs all the support he can get. Besides...who wouldn't want to travel around the world and play video games? =D | ||
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DoubleB
Germany870 Posts
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Spohlol
Sweden4 Posts
Maybe im just used to BiS casters but meh whenever i see his stream i just feel like "uhh who would wanna watch that?" | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
good news anyhow | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On July 27 2011 09:07 alepov wrote: is he gonna replace rotterdam? sure hope so good news anyhow nope, they're gonna cast together | ||
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Apollo_Shards
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On July 27 2011 04:19 Kaniwani wrote: I just want to say that MrBitter has been making every effort to improve on his casting. The lack of support by some people because of his "biased" casting is understandable but know that he is reading all of your comments and criticisms and doing his damn hardest to improve on that. Do you think that all of the best casters today started out flawless? I think not. He has been playing Terran and Protoss in order to have a better understanding of those races. As many of you may know, he brought the pros of those races onto his show to have a better understanding and to help his viewers as well. Sure...he still gets more excited for Zerg than any other race but can you blame him? I can assure you that his casting will only get better with time as he's been listening to all of the ciriticisms from his audience and putting them into consideration. And for those who think he whines too much...I suggest that you go back and read his humble responses from the bashing comments. A true whiner would respond differently. I know he appreciates all of your support and will do everything in his power to bring great content to you guys from Europe. I had to get that off my chest as I know him better than anyone. He has immense potential to be a phenomenal caster if you guys give him a chance. Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast. | ||
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MooSys
Sweden38 Posts
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On July 27 2011 10:35 Apollo_Shards wrote: Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast. i prefer hearing him instead of alleged "unbiased" casters that have no clue about the game at all | ||
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fantasysan
Germany41 Posts
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
Going to be fun to have a Zerg to cast longside famous Zerg-hater Rotti! :D So much bias towards Zerg in his casts haha. Great fun. Happy for you MrBitter! Good luck with everything! Guess that means I will face MrBitter on the ladder now haha :D Awesome. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 27 2011 10:34 Apollo_Shards wrote: Sounds to me like you are quite picky on casters.I dont understand why this guy is popular. I cannot stand his casting and I am not even that picky on casters. On July 27 2011 10:35 Apollo_Shards wrote: ... because phenomenal caster grow on trees.Well until he is a phenomenal caster then people shouldnt be having him cast. He has done so much already for the community. Yesterday I watched his stream where he presented some new community maps. Now he will move to a foreign country to be able to do even more for the communuty. His masterpiece so far is of course the 12 weeks with the pros series. What have you done so far for the community? | ||
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SlaverR
Germany87 Posts
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Gattaca.usa
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If you are so upset about the casting, let's see you do it. Also since he is casting at MLG Anaheim, it will be a good opportunity to see how he does and then judge him. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 27 2011 19:07 SlaverR wrote: May be he is happy with the feedback from most guys and don't really want to prove you wrong.I like what he does for the community, but i dont think he is a good caster. Since i watch alot of ESL stuff im not that happy about these news. But maybe he can step up his skills and prove me wrong! For example, I personally cannot stand a Husky cast. If feels like my ears begin to bleed. I could give a lot of detailed reasons what I don't like about his casts, but I am still happy that he is successful. He attracts a lot of guys into the scene. That is great. He should not change a bit, just to make me happy. I can watch an HD cast instead. On ESL-TV, I miss strategical depth in Take's casts. He still brings the energy into the commentary. Rotterdam, while able to do analytic casts, leans too much towards Protoss for my taste. Mr. Bitter now can even the field with bringing the zerg's point of view into the casting. | ||
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Tundra
United Kingdom18 Posts
Congrats. | ||
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Futura
Germany33 Posts
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InsaneIVI
Bulgaria7 Posts
biggest fan i am ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ | ||
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
I can't say that I have listened to him before, but maybe now I will, since I do watch the ESLtv reasonably often. | ||
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
but other than that he has a nice voice and good casting abilities | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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Starion
United States32 Posts
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Fatze
Germany1342 Posts
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hotblackdesiato
Canada74 Posts
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
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Neverplay
Austria532 Posts
respect for this guy who has done soo much for the community!! | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
He's got some of the best analytical casting outside of korea, absolutely fantastic hearing him go into strategy intricacies, especially because most of the time he's right! | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
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jonathan1
United States395 Posts
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arfyron
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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UnknownReclaimer
United States146 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:44 namedplayer wrote: I don't like him. I won't watch ESL anyway I don't really understand what anyone can have against him. He's contributed a TON to the community. And if I had to guess he has probably only broken even on what he's spent just on his "12 Weeks With The Pros," if that. Congrats MrBitter! Love your casting personally, and I love what you do for the community. I hope more good fortune like this continues for you! | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Stil
United Kingdom206 Posts
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
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Vandeam
Norway28 Posts
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warcralft
Singapore609 Posts
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
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jakek95
United Kingdom351 Posts
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renchak
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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