This is seriously heartbreaking, Puma was plugging TSL and showing real TSL pride when he was in the NASL grand finals. The fact that EG approached Puma, I can't blame them but...wow.

THIS IS PURE SPECULATION FROM THIS POINT OUT:
Puma probably talked to the TSL coach about it, maybe even said he was considering the offer, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that EG is actively trying to pull Puma off his team. I can see the Korean coaches being very upset at any sign of doubt within their team. Still...EG...

farvacola

United States18866 Posts

July 21 2011 06:11 GMT

#142

If what Artosis said on the last SotG about top-tier Koreans getting stuck in profitless contracts with teams, then perhaps Puma is simply being assertive with what he wants.

BIGSTEVE808

United States225 Posts

July 21 2011 06:11 GMT

#143

Wasn't TSL the first Korean team to have salaries? If that's the case, EG must have really ponied up the big bucks.

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

July 21 2011 06:11 GMT

#144

On July 21 2011 15:10 Fionn wrote:
Wow, if this is true, I lose all respect for EG. This really could kill Korean teams sending players to North American/European events. If they stole or pried away Puma while he was at NASL and Puma was under contract at the time, that's really, really disappointing. This will discourage teams from sending players to events in fear of international teams trying to steal players away.

If TSL is lying or this isn't true, then I take it back, but this could really damage what has been a really good partnership between the international tournaments and Korean teams.

It could. Maybe Korean teams will be afraid of sending their players out if they're going to be poached by foreign teams during their trip.

yeint

Estonia2329 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#145

On July 21 2011 15:09 GreyKnight wrote:
That's pretty lame EG did this in such a sleezy way.

What on earth is "sleazy" about talking to a player about possibly recruiting them?

If anything is sleazy here it's TSL throwing a hissy fit and releasing Puma. Unless Puma actually made a deal with EG already.

I understand that this forum is rampant with "Korea > all" mentality, but why on earth are people supporting "Korean e-sports etiquette" that basically treats players as chattel slaves to their management?

desRow

Canada2654 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#146

omg the world is going upside down, THE RAPTURE SI COMING GUYS !

iYiYi

United States489 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#147

I hope people appreciate the way FXO operates, especially after seeing these shaddy moves by EG and SK.

Mycl

Australia1370 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#148

On July 21 2011 15:10 Fionn wrote:
Wow, if this is true, I lose all respect for EG. This really could kill Korean teams sending players to North American events. If they stole or pried away Puma while he was at NASL and Puma was under contract at the time, that's really, really disappointing. This will discourage teams from sending players to events in fear of international teams trying to steal players away.

If the team or the coach was never notified that EG was in contact with Puma there's a good chance he was out of contract. People should take a deep breath and wait for a bit more information

rysecake

United States2632 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#149

On July 21 2011 15:11 Corrosive wrote:

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Why are you so anti-EG? PumA is already good and EG has decent players.

EG has decent players? Idra. Ok, name me another please. EG is trash compared to any korean team.

DirtYLOu

575 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#150

On July 21 2011 15:11 Corrosive wrote:

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Why are you so anti-EG? PumA is already good and EG has decent players.

EG is good? How come? The only guy that is getting results is Idra. Demuslim, Incotrol, Machine, Axslav are average right now at MAXIMUM.

hitpoint

United States1511 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#151

Lol at all the overreacting. You have no information so far, chill out.

Maynarde

Australia1286 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#152

Oh my ... This is huge. Well poached EG, that is one fine player you scored there

Ruscour

5233 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#153

On July 21 2011 15:10 Flowjo wrote:
Sigh, EG just train Incontrol to be the next champ of......... oh , makes sense why they got Puma lol their team in an honest perspective has all tier 2 players execpt Idra

DeMuslim is okay. Axslav flies under the radar but he's okay. EG's main failures are iNcontroL and Machine, have they ever actually done well in anything...ever?

ELA

Denmark4608 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#154

SirScoots was in a discussion about this yesterday actually on Weapon of Choice - They brought on Alex from SK-gaming, who did a similar thing - They talked to a Fnatic-team player about their interest, told the player that he should give up his contract with Fnatic, and then immediately join SK-gaming, to avoid paying the transfer.. lol.. Now I know why SirScoots was so quiet in that discussion :D

LostBLuE

Canada188 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#155

Holy shit EG is officially the Yankees of SC2, Scoots is like a living George Steinbrenner.

Garnet

Vietnam9050 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#156

Lift the weight off Idra's shoulders a bit.

RedHelix

250 Posts

July 21 2011 06:12 GMT

#157

I don't know, to me it felt like this was brewing in TSL for a while before, from their tweets regarding NASL they always said something along the lines of "Cheer for Alive!" or "Alive is going to do well!" never any mention of Puma from what i recall :/

Benjilol

Australia244 Posts

July 21 2011 06:13 GMT

#158

Theres 2 sides to this story, we're only hearing the side from the angry, emotional coach who just lost his best player. I shall refrain from judging either party until more details are released.